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Old 09-09-2005, 03:47 PM   #1
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I just looked at my EpicCash stats...

And I remember now, why I stopped promoting them.

I just followed my stats all the way back to 08-18-03 and seen that from the hundreds of hits that they counted (not sure how many I sent or why) maybe a few ever seen the Join pages. I vaguely remember the time I was pushing them my hardest, or if there even was a time I "pushed" them.

I was interested in maybe putting up some links, probably FHG's since I figure why not, I have extremepaychecks FHG's still in my db. and afterall I did put a link in my blog to promote their ringtone site. (which has counted less than half dozen hits - again not too sure how many I sent them, but that is what they counted.)

I also come to realise that I have 2 accounts, which I would like to have "merged" if possible. There is a problem though. I believe one of them was under the revsharehosting referral (which I enjoyed being part of, glad to see them accepting new accounts these days). so it would be difficult.

I am not sure if I should start promoting them again, if I did I would have way more traffic to send them than before... this is where my problem comes in.

If I sent small ammounts of traffic and they only reported oh I dunno, say 10% of the hits (and that is generous since I believe it may have been 5% or so) then what happens when I start sending them larger ammounts?

Decisions...

On a related note. Whatever happened to sponsors allowing a couple of the sales actually get reported in a new webmasters stats at least for the first few weeks. I used to love signing up to sponsors send a few thousand hits get a paycheck and then nothing... ever... again...

BTW Epiccash, since you will be reading this, can you merge my accounts, and give me a detailed report of my stats from the beginning of both accounts, and maybe a few words to help convince me to put my epiccash links back up.

I am not incinuating that EC shaves, it is common knowledge these days.

and the rest of you... I know, I know...

Sponsors don't shave traffic, just signups.
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Old 09-09-2005, 03:50 PM   #2
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Solid Gold Mobile linkcodes redirect to your EpicCams linkcode... that site is currently being redirected until some things are adjusted on it... therefore its being redirected to YOUR cams linkcode.

Why dont you contact us first?
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Old 09-09-2005, 03:54 PM   #3
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If I sent small ammounts of traffic and they only reported oh I dunno, say 10% of the hits (and that is generous since I believe it may have been 5% or so) then what happens when I start sending them larger ammounts?

BTW Epiccash, since you will be reading this, can you merge my accounts

everything is counted... how about you contact me and give me your usernames so I can see?

and I cant merge accts if I dont know what the accts are.
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Old 09-09-2005, 03:56 PM   #4
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epiccash shaves
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Old 09-09-2005, 03:57 PM   #5
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as i recall, we are one of the few sponsors that actually DO count hits accurately lol


put up a out click script and match it to our stats.

you will be surprised at how accurate they are.

would have been cool to contact us first and address the issues, but hey, drama is drama and i love it all.


good luck to you if you choose to promote someone else.
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Old 09-09-2005, 03:59 PM   #6
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epiccash shaves

well we do, but not that bad.. did you happen to catch us shaving though? id hate to have any lose ends not tied up and us be exposed.

moron.
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Old 09-09-2005, 03:59 PM   #7
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MURDEROUS and MURDERMAN

too late for emails... and they get lost in the mix.

also, the ringtones thing was only 1/10th of what the post is about.

I need to know why my 500+ clicks since 2003 didn't even see the join page.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:02 PM   #8
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I am not incinuating that EC shaves, it is common knowledge these days.
Exactly why I threw in my little disclaimer... no proof. Just good ol word of mouth. I never expected it to be ALL of the problem, just SOME of the problem. It has been said that other things may happen to traffic, like "glitches" and such. Don't see anyone posting any proof of that. Does that mean it never happens? dunno...
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:03 PM   #9
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too late for emails... and they get lost in the mix.

also, the ringtones thing was only 1/10th of what the post is about.

I need to know why my 500+ clicks since 2003 didn't even see the join page.
We didnt have join page hits until about a year ago.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:04 PM   #10
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MURDEROUS and MURDERMAN

too late for emails... and they get lost in the mix.

also, the ringtones thing was only 1/10th of what the post is about.

I need to know why my 500+ clicks since 2003 didn't even see the join page.

we didnt even add join page hit tracking for about a year ago. maybe thats why.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:07 PM   #11
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We didnt have join page hits until about a year ago.
haha... no wonder I was so awwwed while clicking that "prev" link several hundred times. (you folks should look into detailed stats with drop down menus to select timeframes... all the cool sponsors are doing it, what with all the technology these days.)
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:09 PM   #12
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haha... no wonder I was so awwwed while clicking that "prev" link several hundred times. (you folks should look into detailed stats with drop down menus to select timeframes... all the cool sponsors are doing it, what with all the technology these days.)

ahh the key word is 'cool'.. we arent
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:10 PM   #13
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I am doing some stuff with EC now myself. I have had some great conversions in the past. 1 time, I actually had a 1 in 1. or 2 in 2 how ever you want to see it. It was 2 raw, 2 unique, and 2 signs.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:12 PM   #14
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haha... no wonder I was so awwwed while clicking that "prev" link several hundred times. (you folks should look into detailed stats with drop down menus to select timeframes... all the cool sponsors are doing it, what with all the technology these days.)
we arent cool enough.


programmer is working on adding it tho, should be available within next couple weeks.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:12 PM   #15
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I am doing some stuff with EC now myself. I have had some great conversions in the past. 1 time, I actually had a 1 in 1. or 2 in 2 how ever you want to see it. It was 2 raw, 2 unique, and 2 signs.

i guess i owe you 50 bucks now for coming into this thread and contradicting everythign this idiot has said?

glad we convert for ya! send more!
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:13 PM   #16
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I am doing some stuff with EC now myself. I have had some great conversions in the past. 1 time, I actually had a 1 in 1. or 2 in 2 how ever you want to see it. It was 2 raw, 2 unique, and 2 signs.
Probably pre-2003?
Edit-Nevermind, I totally didn't get it.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:16 PM   #17
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Probably pre-2003?
Edit-Nevermind, I totally didn't get it.

yea. clearly. take your links down please. i cant handle fucking moron affiliates like you.

thank you for your time.

p.s. i am serious.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:16 PM   #18
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:22 PM   #19
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Uhhh... So this whole thread is over a whopping 500 clicks?
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:24 PM   #20
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Uhhh... So this whole thread is over a whopping 500 clicks?

or lack of medication that he couldnt afford to refill and is taking it out on us

lol
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:38 PM   #21
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500 plus is all they ever counted from me. I may not remember the whole industry as I seen it in 2003 as of right now, but I do remember that I stopped sending traffic because they were not converting for me... when trying to make light of it all, I noticed I was sending WAY more than what was being reported as RAW.

This was a serious thread about why I should give them a second chance. I wanted to see how many would chime in and give me YAYS and NAYS but seems most people lately are the same way I was back then... dunno why I am sending traffic, but I am.

Anyway, nice change of character after you got a look at the stats from both my accounts. The 2 together don't equal 1k I don't imagine.

Anyway. p1mpdog is telling me to take them down, when they have been down (aside from a few links to epiccams and the ringtone site)

What is up fellas? Afraid I will only send another 1k in the next 2 years?
I just wanted to see if things have changed much since then, or if my stats will still only show 10% of what I send.

I truly do want to throw up some links... please p1mpdaddy, let my link to your program again.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:52 PM   #22
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I truly do want to throw up some links... please p1mpdaddy, let my link to your program again.
Murderous...even though i think you are an ASS...this is business...i will gladly personally hold your hand while i teach you how to make $$ in this biz...it is NOT 2003 anymore...if you blinked...you missed it...that is how fast things change on the net...

let me know what you want...and i will provide it...our new site is converting VERY well...no need to post conversions no one believes anyways...but they a re VERY good!

care to take me up on it? i will set you up...if we convert your traffic you come here and tell everyone how great we are.....if we don't i will be able to tell you why and i will say you are a great guy.....DEAL??

put up or shut up...500 clicks ain't shit and you know it....
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500 plus is all they ever counted from me. I may not remember the whole industry as I seen it in 2003 as of right now, but I do remember that I stopped sending traffic because they were not converting for me... when trying to make light of it all, I noticed I was sending WAY more than what was being reported as RAW.
Looks like you were mainly sending to hosted gals, hits are counted when they hit the tour. Its 2 years later and you are stressing about the few hundred clicks you sent back then... if you think hits are not being counted properly use a outlink counter or just keep hitting your links yourself.
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Uhhh... So this whole thread is over a whopping 500 clicks?
sent in 2003
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god damn lol

i fucking hate this business
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Jesus Christ what a waste of a thread.. please email sponsors in the future for bullshit like this
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this kid is not even 18 lol

ban his dumb ass, and take his drink away
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Old 09-09-2005, 05:05 PM   #29
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On a related note. Whatever happened to sponsors allowing a couple of the sales actually get reported in a new webmasters stats at least for the first few weeks. I used to love signing up to sponsors send a few thousand hits get a paycheck and then nothing... ever... again...
Aint that a classic.


Regarding epiccash their niche sites always converted well for me when sending traffic. Especially considering that the counting of raw hits to tour page seemed very accurate. (which was quite unusual back then)
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Murderous...even though i think you are an ASS...this is business...i will gladly personally hold your hand while i teach you how to make $$ in this biz...it is NOT 2003 anymore...if you blinked...you missed it...that is how fast things change on the net...

let me know what you want...and i will provide it...our new site is converting VERY well...no need to post conversions no one believes anyways...but they a re VERY good!

care to take me up on it? i will set you up...if we convert your traffic you come here and tell everyone how great we are.....if we don't i will be able to tell you why and i will say you are a great guy.....DEAL??

put up or shut up...500 clicks ain't shit and you know it....
You win... seems you are the only one who understands me. I will need no handholding, but I will be contacting you soon. I would not have even went to epiccash.com if I were not interested.

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BTW Epiccash, since you will be reading this, can you merge my accounts, and give me a detailed report of my stats from the beginning of both accounts, and maybe a few words to help convince me to put my epiccash links back up.
Thanx for your reply. Nobody is "stressing" over 500 hits from 2 years ago. Merely an observation.
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yea. clearly. take your links down please. i cant handle fucking moron affiliates like you.

thank you for your time.

p.s. i am serious.
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as i recall, we are one of the few sponsors that actually DO count hits accurately lol
Love or hate it, pimpdogg is right...

1:22 $50.00

What sold me was within mere days of putting up my epiccams links, sales started rolling in. Too bad my traffic sucks

Btw, AFF is working for me as well. Epiccams and AFF both rock
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That's bullshit &

EPIC CASH KICKS ASS
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im lsitening to U2 right now, waiting for the love of my life to bring me some sonic

life rocks at the same time i hate this business

go figure
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Old 09-10-2005, 09:32 AM   #35
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Thought I was gone didn't ya?

Yesterday QuickBuck threw a 24 hour promo for $100 per signup... I hurried to throw up some links. So I figured fuck. P1mpdog told me take links down, so I will put more up. That is how it's done at EpicCash right?

Well I wake this morning to see I have sent 50 uniques to Quickbuck and NOTHING has gone to EPICcams which was ABOVE the Quickbuck FPA.

I decided to click through all the way to the join page, hours later still nothing.


2getit I will be in touch, maybe not today, but soon. I have added you to my ICQ.

And good luck to those of you that make the sales for todays promo at Quickbuck. With only 50 uniques in the last 12 hours, I doubt I will be getting the raised payout, but even if I get a few sales after the promo I will be happy I threw up the ads.

EPICcams on the other hand....
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oh yeah, the AFF ad at the top of the page recieved almost 400 visitors in the last 24 hours. So I KNOW there has been clicks, not to mention my test clicks.
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Do you have more posts on GFY then first page impressions?











Then you might be a "surfer"


Damn I could be like jeff... nah nm
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I just wanted to say I read this entire thread and didn't gain anything from it.
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Do you have more posts on GFY then first page impressions?











Then you might be a "surfer"


Damn I could be like jeff... nah nm
Unlike yourself, I do not believe post count on GFY or any board means anything more than you not having anything else to do with your time.

YOU might be a surfer.

I am trying my best in this business, I have been around for years, I make enough money to do this FULL time, sometimes 16-18 hours a day. Leave me be, I am learning.
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I just wanted to say I read this entire thread and didn't gain anything from it.
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Unlike yourself, I do not believe post count on GFY or any board means anything more than you not having anything else to do with your time.

YOU might be a surfer.

I am trying my best in this business, I have been around for years, I make enough money to do this FULL time, sometimes 16-18 hours a day. Leave me be, I am learning.
Time to open up your already intensive anal wrecked pooper

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Been around for years doesn't mean shit. You are crying over 500 hits that where sent 2 years ago.
You make enough money to do this full time. Still 500 hits? You sent a GRAND Total of 50 hits to quickbucks?

GFY Might not be the best place to "learn" try other boards.

wait a second Oct 2003? Yeah post count really doesn't mean shit... but 2 years and you still can figure out 500 hits?
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GFY Might not be the best place to "learn" try other boards.
You should have taken your own advice. It's funny seeing you preach to people.

You've got one of the most fucked up history's on this board.

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Old 09-10-2005, 09:53 AM   #45
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You should have taken your own advice. It's funny seeing you preach to people.

You've got one of the most fucked up history's on this board.

Hypocrite
Hypocrite? Did you get an ipod for your sig?

Well I got 4.00 an email for mine. + I promote Dating Gold Vividly


I don't need to learn anything from GFY. I make enough money.
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Old 09-10-2005, 09:53 AM   #46
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Time to open up your already intensive anal wrecked pooper

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Been around for years doesn't mean shit. You are crying over 500 hits that where sent 2 years ago.
You make enough money to do this full time. Still 500 hits? You sent a GRAND Total of 50 hits to quickbucks?

GFY Might not be the best place to "learn" try other boards.

wait a second Oct 2003? Yeah post count really doesn't mean shit... but 2 years and you still can figure out 500 hits?
You may want to pay a little more attention before flaming, you fucker you.

It isn't about the hits, they are LONG GONE... besides, it was more than 500 before it hit EC. On a related note, see post #1 the first line says what this is about.

The rest is just the filling of the twinkie. Haha, you like that word Twinkie don't you. You like it when your man calls you that? Fucker.
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Old 09-10-2005, 09:56 AM   #47
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Hypocrite? Did you get an ipod for your sig?

Well I got 4.00 an email for mine. + I promote Dating Gold Vividly


I don't need to learn anything from GFY. I make enough money.
I am not trying to learn FROM gofuckyourself. I do have other boards for that.

However... I stated I am still learning the biz. I will always be learning... so will you. get over it.
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Old 09-10-2005, 10:06 AM   #48
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Obviously you just like to come here and bash us just like you have done in the past... if the problem you are having is true you would bother to icq/aim/email one of us instead of coming here.

Sorry your few hundred hits 2 years ago did not convert.
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Old 09-10-2005, 10:10 AM   #49
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Obviously you just like to come here and bash us just like you have done in the past... if the problem you are having is true you would bother to icq/aim/email one of us instead of coming here.

Sorry your few hundred hits 2 years ago did not convert.
Me too, and I only responded in this thread because it was already started from last night...

I want to give EpicCash another chance, if you think that is "Bashing" then maybe I should rethink my methods?
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Old 09-10-2005, 10:14 AM   #50
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Me too, and I only responded in this thread because it was already started from last night...

I want to give EpicCash another chance, if you think that is "Bashing" then maybe I should rethink my methods?
Next time email/aim/icq and show me where you have our link. I'm starting to think maybe you are not even copying the linkcode correctly?
Paste the linkcode you used here atleast.
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