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Old 09-06-2005, 04:23 PM   #1
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Why Blame Bush

Ok folks I run the risk here of fucking people off though as someone living in the UK and watching the news etc I have been getting more and more frustrated and seeing how people are blaming Bush for this awful situation on the gulf coast that and the other.

The area destroyed is equal to that of the UK - the number of people I dare not even imagine, what I do know is that it is easy to blame someone else and this guy has done f'all wrong.

As a Brit I would have thought that something as shocking as this would have united the the people of the US, seeing it turned into a polictical debate is a bit of joke, after all he was voted the guy in to dothe job.

My only personal regret is that the US continue to refuse international aid, help and or resources.

Why why why is it Bush's fault, Im no fan of his though feel for the guy right now and if all the energy people put into bashing him were applied to something constructive then this situation will be resolved a lot quicker.
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Ok folks I run the risk here of fucking people off though as someone living in the UK and watching the news etc I have been getting more and more frustrated and seeing how people are blaming Bush for this awful situation on the gulf coast that and the other.

The area destroyed is equal to that of the UK - the number of people I dare not even imagine, what I do know is that it is easy to blame someone else and this guy has done f'all wrong.

As a Brit I would have thought that something as shocking as this would have united the the people of the US, seeing it turned into a polictical debate is a bit of joke, after all he was voted the guy in to dothe job.

My only personal regret is that the US continue to refuse international aid, help and or resources.

Why why why is it Bush's fault, Im no fan of his though feel for the guy right now and if all the energy people put into bashing him were applied to something constructive then this situation will be resolved a lot quicker.
It is not Bush's fault, furthermore; this horrible event HAS united the U.S. - only the media love to portray things differently as they always do, (bigger ratings whatever). I'm currently in Houston (a few hundred miles away), where in the Astrodome, Americans are helping so much that there are lines MILES long to donate goods and money. This is a fact, we are united. Maybe not politically -

I do have to say though, the Governor of Louisiana and the Mayor of New Orleans both could have done more for their own people in their own land. The U.S. is to big to blame Bush for everything, but the democrats love to do that -

BTW, you are on GFY, known for its liberal leftist, I mean we do deal in porn and the Republican party hates porn. It's no wonder you always hear bad shit about Bush

I'm glad you are not another sheep. Thank's for the support UK!
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Old 09-06-2005, 05:28 PM   #3
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I just am sick of seeing people moan about what has happened and how no knight in shining armour turned up.

On Fox & CNN market experts have been on the news saying that the area effected represents 1% of the US ecconomic ballance. He went on to say that is a matter of weeks the market would 'forget' what has happened and things would move.

Its a sad truth of life - Business goes on.

My only hope is that the people who have suffered do get their lives back and that the folks who for many years have given the black communities in that region a hard time open their doors to these displaced people.

We shall see in the coming months just how great the US really is unless of course they fail.
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Old 09-06-2005, 05:31 PM   #5
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Ya, I am more pissed at the Mayor and Gov. of the state and I am not a fan of Bush.
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Old 09-06-2005, 05:32 PM   #6
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its a failure of the homeland security act
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I would say Bush certainly has some responsibility in the matter, he is the top of the chain and the buck stops with him.

I don't think he should have to take all the blame, or even the primary blame. The mayor of NO and the Govenor of LA should carry at least as much as the President, IMHO. That's just for starters. Esentially, a lot seems to have gone wrong and a lot of people need to share in the responsibility for that.
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Because Bush has appointed all of his college buddies, who have absolutely no experience, into positions of importance, thinking that nothing would ever happen that would require them to perform their jobs.
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Because Bush has appointed all of his college buddies, who have absolutely no experience, into positions of importance, thinking that nothing would ever happen that would require them to perform their jobs.

While I have to asgree with this post, I also have to say, that someone in the same position would be in for a lot of trouble. This is a situation that has never before happened. Not on this scale at least. It is a logistical nightmare, and for those that think that a faster response should have happened, you are wrong.

If they had moved in before the storm, then more people would be dead, and more supplies lost. If they move in too soon after the storm, they are going into an unk situation, and most likely will not be equipped the correct way.

Is Bush at fault?? Yes somewhat. Is the Govenor and Mayor at fault? Yes somewhat. Are the people that live there at fault? Yes somewhat. Blaming one person is absurd, but that is the american way!
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Because Bush has appointed all of his college buddies, who have absolutely no experience, into positions of importance, thinking that nothing would ever happen that would require them to perform their jobs.
This is so on the money. If he wants to take credit for getting us thru 9-11 he can take the blame for this. He was in California the day after it hit for gods sake.

Even a total moron knows that it would probably look bad. Then again, we are talking about our president. He probably didn't see how it would look bad.
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Can someone find that pic of him enjoying himself playing the guitar after the storm hit and before he "had" to cut yet another vacation short??

Without the orders given by the president and only the president much of the aid available is on HOLD! Get it???

I went through Andrew and we had some looting and people that had to wait but nothing close to this case of simply "Dropping the Ball". Clinton did 10x the job here in Florida.. And no I'm not affiliated with any political party, independant all the way I vote for the best asshole of the bunch... Sad but true..

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While I have to asgree with this post, I also have to say, that someone in the same position would be in for a lot of trouble. This is a situation that has never before happened. Not on this scale at least. It is a logistical nightmare, and for those that think that a faster response should have happened, you are wrong.

If they had moved in before the storm, then more people would be dead, and more supplies lost. If they move in too soon after the storm, they are going into an unk situation, and most likely will not be equipped the correct way.

Is Bush at fault?? Yes somewhat. Is the Govenor and Mayor at fault? Yes somewhat. Are the people that live there at fault? Yes somewhat. Blaming one person is absurd, but that is the american way!
this wasnt a surprise like 911 they knew it was coming, they could of been there sunday also news crews got in pretty quick
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Old 09-06-2005, 07:46 PM   #13
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It's more fun to blame Bush than God. Bush tries to defend himself.
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it's obvious that bush has a certain responsability on that!
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He is head of state and appointed the head of FEMA that can't do crap....
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Yep, what if terrorist had blown up the levies? At least with this hurricane you had warnings it was coming. If this is the type of response we can expect from the feds the next time there is another 9-11 then everyone is fucked. Also Bush said to vote for him because HE could protect us and Kerry could not. This was a test for him and he failed. Four years after 9-11 and we are no safer, but hell you can be arrested and held without charge or a lawyer for checking out the "wrong" books at the local library.
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Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't. It's in the Patriot Act. Look it up. Funny how you are probally against .XXX and 2257 yet you are against them based on things that MIGHT happen not anything that HAS happened yet. Hmmm can you say HYPOCRITE?
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Why blame Bush?
When you are the top official, CEO, commander, etc. you get to take all the credit, avoid all the blame, get all the benefits/perks/recognition, but not be responsible for anything you say or do.

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They blame Bush because the mayor and governor are Democrats and they can't accept blame for being inept
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Because it totally was preventable. Not only preventable but also predicted. This wasnt something that might have happened. It was something that was going to happen. The resources that could have been used to make the reqiured defence system have not been given. Instead Bush used that money to kill men women and children (including over 2000 of his own troops) and to invade a country in the hope to secure oil. He made that choice. He chose to invade and kill rather than save the lives and property of his own people.

Also because after what he knew would happned did actually happen. He did nothing. The national Guard, rescue workers, supplies, doctors, food, water should have been there in hours not 8 days later. He is the "comander and chief" The buck stops with him and he did nothing.
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Because it totally was preventable. Not only preventable but also predicted. This wasnt something that might have happened. It was something that was going to happen. The resources that could have been used to make the reqiured defence system have not been given. Instead Bush used that money to kill men women and children (including over 2000 of his own troops) and to invade a country in the hope to secure oil. He made that choice. He chose to invade and kill rather than save the lives and property of his own people.

Also because after what he knew would happned did actually happen. He did nothing. The national Guard, rescue workers, supplies, doctors, food, water should have been there in hours not 8 days later. He is the "comander and chief" The buck stops with him and he did nothing.
You have a point too! Bush had this pride or depends that USA is such a powerful country... no big deal! Why cant he just accept all the offers around the world to provide those victims needs... and things will be back to normal soon...
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Because he's been looking up while everything turns to shit at his feet. He's making everyone focus attention on every place except for where it needs to be.

First he cut funding for upkeep and repairs on the levees that failed in NO. That's to pay for the 'war' in Iraq and for his tax cut package. I got a check in the mail, so I guess it was for me.

Second he folded FEMA into the Homeland Security program, essentially making it weaker and less organized. I wasn't sure that was possible until now. The whole mess got lost in a pile of bureaucracy is what the final story is going to be.

Third has to be a bit of the croneyism that exists in Bush's world. What did this "Brownie" guy really have under his belt that prepared him for just exactly what happened in the Gulf Coast? If you're the main FEMA dude, shouldn't you be ready to Federally Emergency Respond to something? Seems like Geraldo managed to get his powdery ass into the floodwater LONG before Federal resources got there. You've got to wonder if a person had trained and been schooled in emergency management might be better served to handle the sitatuion.

Next is the vacation thing. We saw it coming. People were calling it a disaster on the verge of happening on Saturday. The hurricane struck and was devastating at first glance, but no end to photo ops and brush clearing until after much pressure from the media. Okay, that one may be a bit nit picky, but well. I coudn't resist.

Now he's going to ask Congress for a gajillion or so dollars for emergency aid and payola to the "victims". But where is that money going to come from? Is anything going to get cut from the Iraq budget? What about the fight over the "death tax"? Can we at least table that so there is some money out there to pay for this special relief package? Probably not because that would be resonsible and intelligent. Can't have that in Washington.

Mostly you've got to look at a president who says he's the president who is going to protect us from the War on Terror. He's constantly telling us that terrorists are out there trying to get us and we need billions of dollars to protect us from bad things happening. But then when something bad does happen, nobody knows what to do. And even worse, this was a bad thing we could see coming at us. It wasn't a dirty bomb or chemical weapons. It wasn't anthrax or nerve gas. It was weather and there were these cloud geeks on the TV for days saying that big rain and possible levee problems were headed for the Gulf Coast. SURPRISE!!! What have we been getting ready for these last four years if not quick response to a desperate situation?

I'll admit freely that I have a beef with the president. I didn't vote for him either time and wouldn't even if he was the only candidate. But take all that away. Strip away the political parties and the red vs blue bullshit and you still have a colossal screw up of epic proportions. At some point Republican/Democrat doesn't matter. If someone screwed up that bad at my company, I'd fire them. If my husband screwed the pooch as much as this guy does when it's important, he'd be sleeping in the truck and maybe not even in the garage unless he said "sorry" and meant it. I just don't understand how thinking people can sit back and say that all this stuff going on within and from our leadership is okay.
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Because he's been looking up while everything turns to shit at his feet. He's making everyone focus attention on every place except for where it needs to be.....
DO you ever think for yourself bitch, nice way to cut and paste from some liberal brain farts website? Oh fix your fucking banner on your lame ass tgp too.
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it's not blaming the man

but he heads the state and is responsible for the readiness against such disasters.

when you position a guy who was manager of the national horse riding club ,or something ,as chief of FEMA-Federal Emergency Management Agency
Agency of the US government tasked with Disaster Mitigation, Preparedness, Response & Recovery planning.

you should take some of the blame. as it's not suprising the reaction
hurricanes are more common than terrorists on the US shores nowadays.

and he might second guess his anti Kyoto - world global warming agreement -
as there is a rise in hurricane events and force and it could get worse according to experts.
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Because Bush has appointed all of his college buddies, who have absolutely no experience, into positions of importance, thinking that nothing would ever happen that would require them to perform their jobs.
Just like every other president that's ever served in washington... It just so happens that this time someone had to do the job because mother nature forced their hands.

What most people have forgotten is that in a crisis its LOCAL and STATE officials that are supposed to show leadership and make the hard decisions. They are the ones that have the most detailed information about the particular situation. The fact that the N.O. mayor and the governor of LA didn't put their disaster preparedness plans into play indicates they probably didn't even know they existed... they were too busy kissing ass to read them when they took their oath of office. It's not Bush's fault they didn't follow the protocols that were in place.
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Just like every other president that's ever served in washington...
And that somehow makes it ok? It's people like you who have this attitude that it's acceptable behavior, that are making this country head towards the shitter.
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And that somehow makes it ok? It's people like you who have this attitude that it's acceptable behavior, that are making this country head towards the shitter.
Isnt California expecting a 'big one' soon
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DO you ever think for yourself bitch, nice way to cut and paste from some liberal brain farts website? Oh fix your fucking banner on your lame ass tgp too.
Do YOU think for yourself? My whole post was typed off the top of my head. Where did your post come from? Looking at some of your posts it seems like maybe you're just bitter about your small penis or something because you sure do seem to have a grudge against everyone.

Oh, and my TGP was killed several weeks ago and is just a bunch of links now for whatever traffic finds its way there. Thanks for the reminder to remove the button from my sig. I appreciate your thoughfulness. Peace be with you, asshole.
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Funny how you make irrational conclusions, and baseless assumptions.
Hmmm can you say MORON?
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Isnt California expecting a 'big one' soon
Ya, but since rescue teams from LA were on the road towards N.O. before FEMA even started to work on the situation, I think our response and readiness is a little better.

I am just wondering what is it going to take for something to become worse than getting your dick sucked by an intern.
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