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Old 09-04-2005, 09:09 PM   #1
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Bush rejected US$1000000 from Venezuela

did you guys know that Bush rejected 1million doallars that Venezuela's President was donationg to help New Orleans? do you know why?
because:
"we didnt ask for international help" - George W. Bush

all I have to say is "Fuck Bush!"... how dare you pretend to be any better than Saddam Hussein?
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Old 09-04-2005, 09:17 PM   #2
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did you guys know that Bush rejected 1million doallars that Venezuela's President was donationg to help New Orleans? do you know why?
because:
"we didnt ask for international help" - George W. Bush

all I have to say is "Fuck Bush!"... how dare you pretend to be any better than Saddam Hussein?
Yea...I'd really like to know the source here...if it's true, he's a bigger asshole that I thought.
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oh and by the way...

A controversy erupted in another disaster situation in 1999 when Chavez turned down an offer for U.S. military engineers to come help reopen a main coastal highway following catastrophic floods and mudslides. He said Venezuela didn't need the Americans' help.
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A controversy erupted in another disaster situation in 1999 when Chavez turned down an offer for U.S. military engineers to come help reopen a main coastal highway following catastrophic floods and mudslides. He said Venezuela didn't need the Americans' help.
key word: MILITARY ....
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Old 09-04-2005, 09:23 PM   #6
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Fucking plain crazy what the guys on top are doing while people are starving and rotting on top of each other... If world leaders slowed their fucking role a little bit and be more peaceful we would all get by alot easier.

those think their shit dosen't stink....you all make this world a living hell
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Old 09-04-2005, 09:25 PM   #7
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He seems to be turning down help from everywhere, foreign and domestic
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Didn't he refuse most of the monetary help ?
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Venezuela donates 1 million barrels of oil to the United States of America


http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=45807

more like 65 million $$$$ ... don't know if it is accurate or if it was refused...

But they also gave this:

Venezuela's CITGO pledges US $1 million towards hurricane relief efforts

and


CITGO presents checks for US$8 million to the Muscular Dystrophy Association


Ya Fuckinnnn terrarissss
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Put it this way:

- He has some PR advisers, and they tell him to refuse help, because it will make him look weak and that he can't take care of his own people.

AND/OR

- He act like a paranoia and precaution girl in a bar, that say no for drinks, because it will bind her for a talk (diplomacy).

........ so, who will pay the price?
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What on earth does this have to do with Saddam Hussein? lol
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Old 09-04-2005, 09:46 PM   #13
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key word: MILITARY ....
haha, still waiting for a reply.....nice
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He's already refused or ignored numerous offers from many different sources! I can't think of one word for a leader who is so proud he deny's his people help. It's never had to be said before. Unfucking believable!
And this isn't propaganda or exageration, it is fact. Yet people still "love Bush"....
Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him.
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oh and by the way...

A controversy erupted in another disaster situation in 1999 when Chavez turned down an offer for U.S. military engineers to come help reopen a main coastal highway following catastrophic floods and mudslides. He said Venezuela didn't need the Americans' help.
Yep I can tell you that is true...and they also offered medical help from one of those hospital ships I think.
The town affected by the mudslides back in 1999 still hasn´t recovered.Wonder if Chavez had accepted the help back then,that town would have fully recovered.
I also remember that happened after about 5 days of HEAVY rain.Chavez didn´t evacuate the town because there were elections that week and he didn´t want to pospone them.What a great humanitarian...
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He's already refused or ignored numerous offers from many different sources! I can't think of one word for a leader who is so proud he deny's his people help. It's never had to be said before. Unfucking believable!
And this isn't propaganda or exageration, it is fact. Yet people still "love Bush"....
Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him.
I think the main point for refusing something like that is that they will want something in return at some point.....just opens up a big can of worms. If any country wants to donate money they can donate it to various charities, i'm sure they wouldn't get refused.

Either way south america has it's own share of problems and they really should be using that money to help out their own people.
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and? a fucking engineer is an engineer.
If you're drowning you don't give a shit what color the rescue boat is.
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and? a fucking engineer is an engineer.
If you're drowning you don't give a shit what color the rescue boat is.
Exactly, so why isn't Bush accepting aid from Cuba or Venezuela?
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Why must bush haters make up bullshit to make him look bad? Atleast get a real source.
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Either way south america has it's own share of problems and they really should be using that money to help out their own people.
Chavez is using the money the country is making from the high oil prices to buy support in the continent.
We had big floods in february were lots of people were killed and many more lost their homes.Hundreds if not thousands of these homeless people are still living in refuges and stadiums while Chavez is paying for a satellite for his new TV station (telesur),is buying other country´s debts (argentina) and buying ships and giving away OUR oil to Cuba and other countries (Jamaica for one). He even had the nerve to pay for 250 houses in Cuba while hundreds of venezuelans are still living in big warehouses and are without jobs.
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Exactly, so why isn't Bush accepting aid from Cuba or Venezuela?
show me where he hasn't... that's all i'm asking.
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how could all these leaders think of their egos before thinking of the benefits that their people will be getting with that help? the president should look into what is really happening with his people right now. in this situation, they should always set aside the political issues that they are having, instead, help each other. In that way, more people will be benefited!
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Why must bush haters make up bullshit to make him look bad? Atleast get a real source.
such as .... ???? Faux News or the repoopblican website???
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Chavez is using the money the country is making from the high oil prices to buy support in the continent.
We had big floods in february were lots of people were killed and many more lost their homes.Hundreds if not thousands of these homeless people are still living in refuges and stadiums while Chavez is paying for a satellite for his new TV station (telesur),is buying other country´s debts (argentina) and buying ships and giving away OUR oil to Cuba and other countries (Jamaica for one). He even had the nerve to pay for 250 houses in Cuba while hundreds of venezuelans are still living in big warehouses and are without jobs.
You really:

1 - don't like him
2 - like the USA/Bush a lot

Would Pinochet ( or Somoza type ) be better for the venezuelians ???
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such as .... ???? Faux News or the repoopblican website???
pssst... your inner child is showing.
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Many nations offer material aid to hurricane victims; Bush refuses to accept
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I think the main point for refusing something like that is that they will want something in return at some point.....just opens up a big can of worms. If any country wants to donate money they can donate it to various charities, i'm sure they wouldn't get refused.

Either way south america has it's own share of problems and they really should be using that money to help out their own people.
Fair enough but what about 1st world countries that genuinely want to help, and have histories for doing so?
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pssst... your inner child is showing.
Sorry, had no crying baby gif to post ....
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You really:

1 - don't like him
2 - like the USA/Bush a lot

Would Pinochet ( or Somoza type ) be better for the venezuelians ???
No,I don´t like a man who is taking our country to a disaster real fast.
I don´t like Bush either.

What many people blinded by Chavez´ international propaganda can´t see is that he is still an authoritarian ex-military man,who isn´t very keen on dissent. This guy is not too far from being a dictator. The only difference is that unlike Pinochet ,he is a leftist authoritarian.Same thing really,for those of us living in Venezuela.
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Maybe he could help those people with his own pocket... hehehe (joke)
Dont know the main reasons but I guess he had better accept it not for the gratitude but for the sake of all the victims... anyway USA is still a powerful country!
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Why don't they just donate it to the red cross?

The US can't be dealing with every country that wants to donate $100k or 5 million or whatever.

The US government has more important things to do like get a billed passed that creedits $10 billion towards relief.
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its not confirmed - but I suspect that he will also reject the 1100 doctors that Castro offered from Cuba
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its not confirmed - but I suspect that he will also reject the 1100 doctors that Castro offered from Cuba
Castro parades doctors ready for Katrina aid
05 September 2005

HAVANA: Cuban president Fidel Castro put on display some 1500 doctors equipped with medical supplies today in hopes of persuading arch-enemy the United States to allow them to treat victims of Hurricane Katrina.

Castro, in a televised meeting with the doctors, said the United States had not responded to his offer to send medical workers and 26 tonnes of supplies to the devastated US Gulf Coast.

He first made the offer public during a Television presentation on Friday, saying political enmity should be put aside during such a crisis.

The doctors, each with a green rucksack filled with emergency medicines, were brought to Havana over the weekend, Castro said, and were ready to leave at a moment's notice.

The Cuban leader read out news stories describing a lack of medical attention for Katrina refugees and those still trapped in Louisiana and Mississippi a week after the storm hit.

"These doctors could all already be there providing their services," Castro said.

"Forty-eight hours have passed and we still haven't received any response to our offer...We will wait patiently as many days as are necessary," he said.
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Put it this way:

- He has some PR advisers, and they tell him to refuse help, because it will make him look weak and that he can't take care of his own people.

AND/OR

- He act like a paranoia and precaution girl in a bar, that say no for drinks, because it will bind her for a talk (diplomacy).

........ so, who will pay the price?
The fellow american people
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Fair enough but what about 1st world countries that genuinely want to help, and have histories for doing so?
Cuba have history of helping ... but they refused american help before
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They Yankees donated $1000000 today.

I'm sure they didn't offer it to the government through the media.


Hell.. that one candian singer donated $1000000 by herself. I don't think she called up the white house and offered it.
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Has anybody here on GFY offered money directly to the US government?

I'm wondering if the whitehouse has denied you guys too
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Put it this way:

- He has some PR advisers, and they tell him to refuse help, because it will make him look weak and that he can't take care of his own people.

AND/OR

- He act like a paranoia and precaution girl in a bar, that say no for drinks, because it will bind her for a talk (diplomacy).

........ so, who will pay the price?
No matter what the reason is, people are dying, getting raped, shot and god know what else, but USA cannot accept the help because "Bush think USA is too good??"
In other words, people that could be saved if USA accepted help, is dying so Bush can get a boost in his ego
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No matter what the reason is, people are dying, getting raped, shot and god know what else, but USA cannot accept the help because "Bush think USA is too good??"
In other words, people that could be saved if USA accepted help, is dying so Bush can get a boost in his ego

I donated to the redcross without permission from the whitehouse.

Should I call them up and have them hold the check until the whitehouse acknowledges and accepts my offer?
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I donated to the redcross without permission from the whitehouse.

Should I call them up and have them hold the check until the whitehouse acknowledges and accepts my offer?
There is 2 kind of donations.
Money send to example redcross that go out themself and help
Help send directly to USA, example: oil, equitment to provide clean water, food, sanitation equitment and things like that. That is what USA is not accepting.
Basicly Bush is saying "my people do not need food and water because that might make me look weak"
At the same time people are dying because they have no food or clean water.
Offcourse Bush is still able to say he has the biggest military power and he do not need help, I'm sure someone without food and water for days feels excactly like Bush
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Old 09-05-2005, 01:46 AM   #43
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Didn't he refuse most of the monetary help ?
he did, Holland send a mil vessel there, it was rejected in the first place, they didnt need ppl with dyke building expertise...
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Old 09-05-2005, 01:50 AM   #44
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did you guys know that Bush rejected 1million doallars that Venezuela's President was donationg to help New Orleans? do you know why?
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"we didnt ask for international help" - George W. Bush

all I have to say is "Fuck Bush!"... how dare you pretend to be any better than Saddam Hussein?
The fuck off hasn't accepted any money from anyone that has offered.. Funny because the rescue workers on the ground keep asking for it. I wonder if the fools that voted for this dick will wake up now?.
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Old 09-05-2005, 02:38 AM   #45
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I'm sure the stranded people appretiate that
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Old 09-05-2005, 02:45 AM   #46
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its not confirmed - but I suspect that he will also reject the 1100 doctors that Castro offered from Cuba
It has been confirmed now. Cuba was the first country to officially offer help to the US: "In less than 36 hours, 1,100 doctors with 26.4 tons of medical supplies and diagnostic resources could be ministering to people most urgently in need of assistance [in New Orleans and elsewhere]."

But Bush prefers his poor compatriots to die.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Comment...0505bohne.html
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He's maintaining composure, he he he, but for me its not good to reject help no matter how rich you or a country is
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Old 09-05-2005, 04:02 AM   #49
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Venezuela is one of the world biggest poduces of oil how much will they make once now all the oil is fuck im the gulf.
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if he rejects the doctors from Cuba that would be really sad and pathetic.
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