yeah, that's true, at least you would stop the complains :thumbsup

because complaining is the easiest thing to do when your middle name is "lazy"

All people are self made. Only successful people admit it.

so true... it has nothing to do with education...it's all about the ability of a person how she/he will survive. it's the determination, patience and hard work that can help these poor people, even without education....

I agree, and again due to lack of education. just so ironic that poor famlies tend to have more siblings compare to those who are well off. Very true specially in third world countries.

The thread said POOR, not US poor. So you are wrong there. My illustration was about poor and rich people.

No I cannot come to the US to make the money I make here, it's that simple.

You also show a complete ignorance about countries outside the US. Where I live, Czech Republc, is freer then the US. But then they don't tell you that in the movies or on TV so how are you expected to know?

And as for being in the porn business this country is a lot more freer than the US. But again how would you know that?

However back to the US and New Orleans, when you are looking at the news coverage look to see how many cars you can see. To me it seems most of those with cars got out, very few left and the ones I see look to be driven in after the storm.

So you are switching the argument from poor to uneducated. Differnet argument.

Now look at the elections and the promises the candidates make. They all promise the same, to cut taxes. So how are the por to get a good education with the rich cutting funding? The answer is the parents take it on themselves to educate the children.

Nice answer and absolves the rich from blame. Even though they are well aware that the parents don't have the skills or the resources to do this.

My parents were poor when they left their country after WWII, they were poor when they came to Canada. I am amazed at the fact they did not speak english and yet BOTH my mother and father were able to find employment to support themselves, three children and an aging relative. They worked hard, made sacrifices and eventually landed on their feet never once using social assistance. Not once did they complain. I am amazed when I hear how many people are on welfare or mooching off the system when some, not all - are able bodied english speaking citizens. We are all presesnted with opportunities - its what we chose to do with them that can change our lives.

Maybe because they felt hopeless, or maybe the world is just a little unfair... why it has to have rich and poor people... why not equal to all, right?

God on your mother, she's someone to be prud of.

My parents also came from working class and raised themselve to middle class. It can be done. But as your mother will tell you it's tough and not all succeed.

28 years ago I was bankrupt and had bailiffs taking away the furnture. Today my biggest worry is whether to buy a BMW or Merc, could buy something better but still feel guilty about the prices, I buy for cash.

But any of todays poor are not equipped to compete in todays world, they lack the skills and temprement. Either you are prepared to change it or you have to sit and watch the money it will cost you in the long run.

This thread is about Katrina and the people left in New Orleans. Most of them left did not have the abilty to get out. The cost would have been a few million dollars to lay on an enormous convoy of coaches. Because this was not done the cost of putting it right will be billions. A stitch in time saves nine.

Wel y see a lot here don't realise this. Imagine how much a fruit picker, maid or gardner would cost if it were not fro the poor. Who would pay $20 an hour to have their lawn mowed?

You can't vote in goverment after goverment who promise less taxes and expect those at the bottom of the pile to crawl out on their own. They lack the basic skills to do so.

So don't vote for a goverment that promises to cut and moan about the consequences.

you were the one who mentioned american work ethic and brought behavioral attributes into the conversation, not me. ... then went futher to highlight your point by making comparisons to brutal third world dictatorships. you are an awesome photographer with a great eye... but to call you irrational and illogical in your political views would be a gross understatement.

although i might be inclined to agree with you in some ways about the average americans view of the world, i find it funny that you would mock me because i am american and supposedly know nothing about the world and yet i speak more czech than you do, while you live there, work there and have a family there... and i have spent far more time in eastern europe than you have.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Different world and time. After WWII many nations were screaming for people to come and replace the people who had died in the war. Getting a job even with bad language skills was relatively easy. Todays world is different.

Employers who don't employ people based on the home address, color and accent is one way.

But what the fuck. I'm not a liberal really who cares a lot for the poor, theonly reason a girl poses naked is she needs the money, but I'm not one of the rich who goes around complaining about it. Unike many here.

STFU and keep making money.

But Bush will be spending twice as much putting things right in NO, than he would of if he had thought a bit harder. Well for him a lot harder, who said the poorly educated can't rise to the top? :1orglaugh

Governments cut taxes to reward those who get of their asses and earn a living with the financial gain they're entitle to.

Why should those that work pay for those that don't?