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Ninja Scripts · 09-03-2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

Also amazing how much more classy the people of Mississippi (my state

) are acting

Jackson, Miss. - Mississippi hurricane survivors looked around Saturday and wondered just how long it would take to get food, clean water and shelter. And they were more than angry at the federal government and the national news media.

Richard Gibbs was disgusted by reports of looting in New Orleans and upset at the lack of attention hurricane victims in his state were getting.

"I say burn the bridges and let 'em all rot there," he said. "We're suffering over here too, but we're not killing each other. We've got to help each other. We need gas and food and water and medical supplies."

Gibbs and his wife, Holly, have been stuck at their flooded home in Gulfport just off the Biloxi River. Water comes up to the second floor, they are out of gasoline, and food supplies are running perilously low.

Until recently, they also had Holly's 75-year-old father, who has a pacemaker and severe diabetes, with them. Finally they got an ambulance to take him to the airport so he could be airlifted to Lafayette, La., for medical help.

In poverty-stricken north Gulfport, Grover Chapman was angry at the lack of aid.

"Something should've been on this corner three days ago," Chapman, 60, said Saturday as he whipped up dinner for his neighbors.

He used wood from his demolished produce stand to cook fish, rabbit, okra and butter beans he'd been keeping in his freezer. Although many houses here, about five miles inland, are still standing, they are severely damaged. Corrugated tin roofs lie scattered on the ground.

"I'm just doing what I can do," Chapman said. "These people support me with my produce stand every day. Now it's time to pay them back."

One neighbor, 78-year-old Georgia Smylie, knew little about what's happening elsewhere. She was too worried about her own situation.

"My medicine is running out. I need high blood pressure medicine, medicine for my heart," she said.

Larry Sabato, a University of Virginia political scientist, said he's been watching hours of Katrina coverage every day and most of the national media attention has focused on the devastation and looting in New Orleans.

"Mississippi needs more coverage," Sabato said. "Until people see it on TV, they don't think it's real."

Along the battered Mississippi Gulf Coast, crews started searching boats for corpses on Saturday. Several shrimpers are believed to have died as they tried to ride out the storm aboard their boats on the Intracoastal Waterway.

President Bush toured ravaged areas of the Mississippi coast on Friday with Gov. Haley Barbour and other state officials. They also flew over flooded New Orleans.

"I'm going to tell you, Mississippi got hit much harder than they did, but what happened in the aftermath ? it makes your stomach hurt to go miles and miles and miles and the houses are all under water up to the roof," Barbour said.

Keisha Moran has been living in a tent in a department store parking lot in Bay St. Louis with her boyfriend and three young children since the hurricane struck. She said National Guardsmen have brought her water but no other aid so far, and she was furious that it took Bush several days before he came to see the damage in Mississippi.

"It's how many days later? How many people are dead?" Moran said.

Mississippi's death toll from Hurricane Katrina stood at 144 on Saturday, according to confirmed reports from coroners and the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency. Barbour had said Friday the total was 147, but he didn't provide a county-by-county breakdown.

In a strongly worded editorial, The Sun Herald of Biloxi-Gulfport pleaded for help and questioned why a massive National Guard presence wasn't already visible.

"We understand that New Orleans also was devastated by Hurricane Katrina, but surely this nation has the resources to rescue both that metropolitan (area) and ours," the newspaper editorialized, saying survival basics like ice, gasoline and medicine have been too slow to arrive.

"We are not calling on the nation and the state to make life more comfortable in South Mississippi, we are calling on the nation and the state to make life here possible," the paper wrote.

You should also note how hilarious it is to start a thread questioning the reasons behind the lack of response in New Orleans, then posting an article that shows the people of MS are pissed at the lack of response there also. Absolutely hilarious.

llporter · 09-03-2005, 02:14 PM

Cry Baby

Ninja Scripts · 09-03-2005, 02:14 PM

Much classier though.

http://www.local6.com/news/4923019/detail.html

Heywood Jablome · 09-03-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

You're an idiot, Bush took away 50 million in funding from them... might want to do some research before you make shit up. Or get a job a Fox News.

You are an idiot. Do some research and you will see that there WAS some funding for this project. Why don't you go back to licking Al Franken's asshole.

jimmyf · 09-03-2005, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

The people are having so much trouble because the "leaders" of the people IE mayor and governor are complete morons incapable of taking any leadership position during this tough time.

this is 100% correct...

I can see the asswipes right now... thinking about they will line there pockets when the rebuilding starts....

the poorest state in the USA and the most corrupt. And they will stay poor until the people vote'm out of office.

Which ain't going 2 happen, like I said been going on before Long's time.

detoxed · 09-03-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts

You should also note how hilarious it is to start a thread questioning the reasons behind the lack of response in New Orleans, then posting an article that shows the people of MS are pissed at the lack of response there also. Absolutely hilarious.

Ahh but the difference is my people are not suffering anywhere near as those in the Superdome and the Convention Center in New Orleans.. no where close. New Orleans has much bigger problems that need to be addressed immediately such as huge fires, the downtown area of a LARGE city is flooded. MS problems are pale compared to that. The difference is no one is blaming the MS governor, they are commending him for his response to far. This isnt a personal attack on you but you are acting like it is. Face the facts that your governor is a very weak leader that has done nothing so far except ASK and BEG for help? A good leader helps him/herself and doesnt wait around for a handout.

detoxed · 09-03-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts

Much classier though.

http://www.local6.com/news/4923019/detail.html

He didnt rape her in a kitchen freezer in the Superdome until she died?

He didnt shoot at rescue helicopters and doctors trying to evacuate patients from hospitals?

detoxed · 09-03-2005, 02:23 PM

Bottom line: Governor of the great state of Louisiana is a disgrace as a leader and should resign within 48 hours as a favor to her constituents.

Haha I'm done with you guys

Ninja Scripts · 09-03-2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

Bottom line: Governor of the great state of Louisiana is a disgrace as a leader and should resign within 48 hours as a favor to her constituents.

Haha I'm done with you guys

That's good because retards offer better arguments than you. I'll phone her up and tell her she should bring in a couple million meals personally in the trunk of her car.

Heywood Jablome · 09-03-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts

That's good because retards offer better arguments than you. I'll phone her up and tell her she should bring in a couple million meals personally in the trunk of her car.

Don't do that, everybody knows that is Bush's job!

detoxed · 09-03-2005, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts

That's good because retards offer better arguments than you. I'll phone her up and tell her she should bring in a couple million meals personally in the trunk of her car.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Nine stockpiles of fire-and-rescue equipment strategically placed around the country to be used in the event of a catastrophe still have not been pressed into service in New Orleans, five days after Hurricane Katrina, CNN has learned.

Responding to a CNN inquiry, Department of Homeland Security spokesman Marc Short said Friday the gear has not been moved because none of the governors in the hurricane-ravaged area has requested it.

A federal official said the department's Office for Domestic Preparedness reminded the Louisiana and Mississippi governors' offices about the stockpiles on Wednesday and Thursday, but neither governor had requested it. (See the mayor blister feds for requiring formal queries for help -- 0:34)

The gear -- including generators, radios, breathing apparatus, cots and other items -- is stockpiled by DHS in nine locations. The three closest to New Orleans are College Station, Texas; Columbia, S.C.; and Clearwater, Fla. The gear is intended to replenish or sustain up to 150 first responders.

Contractors who maintain the gear are required to transport it to a disaster site no later than 12 hours after the initial request is made by local authorities and approved by DHS.

Short said that while the stashes contain some items like generators, much of the gear would not be useful in the circumstances faced by the Gulf Coast region.

But Steve Beaumont, a retired contract manager for Homeland Security's Prepositioned Equipment Program, said the gear would be helpful for fire departments wiped out by the hurricane. Each pod has 200 radios, including sophisticated equipment to make radios inter-operable, tying different communications systems together. (Watch the video of first responders in 'hell' -- 3:25)

"The concept was basically, if you had a major incident, this equipment could be brought into the city and reconstitute the local first responders. So they get fresh bunking gear, breathing apparatus," Beaumont said.

Each stockpile consists of a tractor-trailer filled with $2.2 million in gear, he said. Contractors are on call 24 hours a day to move the gear.

"There has been no movement of this equipment to this emergency. As of now there's been no movement at all," Beaumont said. (See the video of the mayor demanding feds to 'get off their asses' -- 12:09)

"I think it's sad because you've got almost ... $20 million worth of gear that's ready to be distributed. You've firefighters (in New Orleans) fighting fires in shorts. That tells me they're running out of stuff."

The project is run by DHS' Office for Domestic Preparedness.

Hope no one you know has anything burn.

slapass · 09-03-2005, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

Anyone on her staff said hey you need to do this? What does that mean? Telling the feds what is needed and what to do doesnt mean they are DOING A GOD DAMNED THING! I can sit here and call the feds and tell them what they need in Louisiana but that isnt exactly going to help them get it done will it?

She is lying about what? I never said she LIED about anything at all, you are a fucking idiot and are not capable of having an intelligent argument about this topic. Anyone else care to finish what this person started?

Why would the feds refuse to offer the correct etiquette if that is all that was required? Lets say she is a fucktard. This type of disaster is not that unnormal. The scale is large but it happened in my state a few years ago. A 50-100k person city was totally flooded.

If the govenor is confused and unable to request help in the proper sequence doesn't the federal govt have an obligation to assist her in filling out the form??

Feds "we can not enter until you give us the password."
Gov "I do not remeber it"
Feds "wow, are you fucked. People are giong to die and we are going to blame you"

Sorry, your arguement is insane.

Ninja Scripts · 09-03-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Heywood Jablome

Don't do that, everybody knows that is Bush's job!

He started this thread to talk shit about the governor not doing her job because people are starving etc. They are doing the same in Mississippi that was actually hit harder by the hurricane. I guess they should be out there saving people themselves instead of asking federal agencies that are nearby and ready to move in "as soon as the storm passes" for help.

detoxed · 09-03-2005, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Why would the feds refuse to offer the correct etiquette if that is all that was required? Lets say she is a fucktard. This type of disaster is not that unnormal. The scale is large but it happened in my state a few years ago. A 50-100k person city was totally flooded.

If the govenor is confused and unable to request help in the proper sequence doesn't the federal govt have an obligation to assist her in filling out the form??

Feds "we can not enter until you give us the password."
Gov "I do not remeber it"
Feds "wow, are you fucked. People are giong to die and we are going to blame you"

Sorry, your arguement is insane.

She is probably too busy crying to answer the phone. Who knows whats going on, but read my article quoted above. She is not doing what she needs to do.

Nismo · 09-03-2005, 02:33 PM

I am absolutely amazed at some of you people. Your true ignorance shines through and it is very sad that you breathe the same air I breathe. Most of it is nothing but armchair politics from people who have never even been to the 'nolia.

"They were TOLD to get out of the city weren't they? It's their fault they got stranded. They didn't listen."

"They were TOLD to take 5 days rations with them. It's their fault they don't have any food or water. They didn't listen."

"How could they not have gas to get out of the city. Don't these people have gas cans in their garages for their lawn mowers. They could have gotten a gallon or so out of that couldn't they?"

"Oh come on... Everyone owns a car."

"How can a person not have $50 bucks in the bank for a motel room? Well even if they didn't they could have used their debt card."

"What do you mean they didn't want to leave their homes? You mean someone would actually want what those people have?"

detoxed · 09-03-2005, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts

He started this thread to talk shit about the governor not doing her job because people are starving etc. They are doing the same in Mississippi that was actually hit harder by the hurricane. I guess they should be out there saving people themselves instead of asking federal agencies that are nearby and ready to move in "as soon as the storm passes" for help.

Mississippi is not a national joke because of whats going on. Louisiana is. The citizens are acting like fools and so are the local elected officials.

I never "talked shit" I stated facts and it seems you are taking it personally.

slapass · 09-03-2005, 02:35 PM

just read your last post. 9 tractor trailers of fire fighting equipement is not the type of response that most americans would expect in this type of situation. I seriously am very surprised that we do so much more for other countries and our own people are ignored. Republicans must really love forms and protocol.

detoxed · 09-03-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo

I am absolutely amazed at some of you people. Your true ignorance shines through and it is very sad that you breathe the same air I breathe. Most of it is nothing but armchair politics from people who have never even been to the 'nolia.

"They were TOLD to get out of the city weren't they? It's their fault they got stranded. They didn't listen."

"They were TOLD to take 5 days rations with them. It's their fault they don't have any food or water. They didn't listen."

"How could they not have gas to get out of the city. Don't these people have gas cans in their garages for their lawn mowers. They could have gotten a gallon or so out of that couldn't they?"

"Oh come on... Everyone owns a car."

"How can a person not have $50 bucks in the bank for a motel room? Well even if they didn't they could have used their debt card."

"What do you mean they didn't want to leave their homes? You mean someone would actually want what those people have?"

I am kind of amazed by your ignorance, since nothing of that sort has been stated in this thread at all. Cya

slapass · 09-03-2005, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

She is probably too busy crying to answer the phone. Who knows whats going on, but read my article quoted above. She is not doing what she needs to do.

That is why we have a chain of command. Like I said your aurguement holds no water.

detoxed · 09-03-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

just read your last post. 9 tractor trailers of fire fighting equipement is not the type of response that most americans would expect in this type of situation. I seriously am very surprised that we do so much more for other countries and our own people are ignored. Republicans must really love forms and protocol.

equipment for 150 first responders... firefighters are working shorts, they need this equipment, they cannot put out the current fires right now with what they have. do you not think they want this equipment? the government told the governor she could ask for it... she didnt. she fucked up. quit covering her ass and thinking emotionally and look at the facts.

detoxed · 09-03-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

That is why we have a chain of command. Like I said your aurguement holds no water.

I wasnt arguing, I've been stating facts. Read the fucking article. She hasnt done shit to get help with the massive fires that are burning, if you cant see that with proof posted, then there is absolutely no point in mentioning anything else, because no amount of evidence would change your mind.

Ninja Scripts · 09-03-2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

just read your last post. 9 tractor trailers of fire fighting equipement is not the type of response that most americans would expect in this type of situation. I seriously am very surprised that we do so much more for other countries and our own people are ignored. Republicans must really love forms and protocol.

They didn't ignore her over protocol. She will just be the scapegoat they use after the piss poor job they have done. Relief efforts in a 3 states are subpar but that will be forgotten as time goes on.

tony286 · 09-03-2005, 02:45 PM

its amazing the spin machine starts blaming the locals and people bite

slapass · 09-03-2005, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

I wasnt arguing, I've been stating facts. Read the fucking article. She hasnt done shit to get help with the massive fires that are burning, if you cant see that with proof posted, then there is absolutely no point in mentioning anything else, because no amount of evidence would change your mind.

My point is if the Fed was poised for five days to rush in and solve this. And lets say she, the govenor was goofed up. Then the feds could designate one person to find her and give her the phone. The pres could call the phone and explain the next step.

A Navy Seal team could have rushed in after 24 hours of no gevenor response and secured her. No need to force her at gun point or any of those things. But considering the chaos maybe it is hard for the govenor to find the form or phone number needed.

The president could have gone on TV and asked her to do the right thing. She is doing nothing then the other side could do something. This is not a pissing match but an attempt to help people.

Ninja Scripts · 09-03-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

I wasnt arguing, I've been stating facts. Read the fucking article. She hasnt done shit to get help with the massive fires that are burning, if you cant see that with proof posted, then there is absolutely no point in mentioning anything else, because no amount of evidence would change your mind.

Is water pressure sitting on one of those trailers waiting to be brought in? Not to mention fires are the least of their concerns. Oh man, I'm done with this thread.

wjxxx · 09-03-2005, 02:57 PM

they didn`t even evacuate hospitals before hurricane

Tam · 09-03-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

hmmm, two other states got hit and they are not having the same trouble. Why do you think that is?

I don't know and I don't really care, but I think blaming the victims and that Governor is insane and I don't give a rats ass who the hell you are, or where you are or anything. Why the hell stand around and BLAME anyone, just get their ases in there and do what needs to be done, take care of those babies that are starving and all that shit and start blaming AFTER.

I remember once my daughter fell and hit her head, before they would even look at her, they tried drilling me about HOW it happened, I looked at them straight in their faces and told them to fucking take care of her and THEN they were free to drill me all they wanted... same thing here.......

GO FIX THOSE PEOPLE AND POINT FINGERS LATER!!!!! After those people have shelter and food and what they need to survive, then spend the rest of their lives blaming, I don't care, but take care of those people FIRST!

I am not mad at you and I am not trying to make it sound that way, but I am a little sick of this blame game that is going on here, there are people dying and all anyone can do is stand around pointing fucking fingers, that's just a crock.

aico · 09-03-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

Nothing to do with this. The city is flooded because of a hurricane. The people are having so much trouble because the "leaders" of the people IE mayor and governor are complete morons incapable of taking any leadership position during this tough time.

The City is flooded because the levies broke, which were only built to withstand cat. 3 or 4 hurricanes. It's not like it rained and that filled the place up...

detoxed · 09-03-2005, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tam

I don't know and I don't really care, but I think blaming the victims and that Governor is insane and I don't give a rats ass who the hell you are, or where you are or anything. Why the hell stand around and BLAME anyone, just get their ases in there and do what needs to be done, take care of those babies that are starving and all that shit and start blaming AFTER.

I remember once my daughter fell and hit her head, before they would even look at her, they tried drilling me about HOW it happened, I looked at them straight in their faces and told them to fucking take care of her and THEN they were free to drill me all they wanted... same thing here.......

GO FIX THOSE PEOPLE AND POINT FINGERS LATER!!!!! After those people have shelter and food and what they need to survive, then spend the rest of their lives blaming, I don't care, but take care of those people FIRST!

I am not mad at you and I am not trying to make it sound that way, but I am a little sick of this blame game that is going on here, there are people dying and all anyone can do is stand around pointing fucking fingers, that's just a crock.

sometimes you cant fix things without finding the cause of the problem. the problem here was not a hurricane. sure the hurricane caused flooding and killed people. the problem is the response of the residents in that area. get the problem ie governor out of the way by her stepping down, and a big part of the problem will be gone and things can get going.

slapass · 09-03-2005, 03:22 PM

detoxed, some good came out of this. I finally got off my ass and made a donation. I also called to see what I can do to help when people show up in my state tomorrow.

I realized that it is us that have to do something. We cannot all stay on vacation and wait to be asked.

Tam · 09-03-2005, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

sometimes you cant fix things without finding the cause of the problem. the problem here was not a hurricane. sure the hurricane caused flooding and killed people. the problem is the response of the residents in that area. get the problem ie governor out of the way by her stepping down, and a big part of the problem will be gone and things can get going.

So you are telling me that in order for them to come in and send troops in to get control of things and to stabalize the situation, they need to get HER out of the way to do this? Maybe I am missing something, but I didn't think she had the authority to call in the guards, so to speak......... she can request them, which she DID.... but past that, what blame does she hold in this? I guess I am just stupid because I just don't get that.

People are killing, raping and stealing and shit, but this is her doing? Who does it fall on to get troops in there? I guess once you find that out, then there is where your fingers should be pointing...... I DO realize she is accountable for things, but she is one person, she can't do all that by herself, I don't care who she is, she isn't god! Right?

Irregardless of any of this though. those people need help and someone needs to get off their asses in ALL of those states and get it done. All I am saying is take care of things and then blame later, they are spending way too much precious energy blaming everyone and their brother. I guess if you want to get technical about this, you can JUST about blame anyone, but what's that going to fix here and now?

I am NOT a political person, so I could care less about politics, but any idiot can see those people need help and could probably care two shits about poilitics right now. And YES I am aware everything is about politics, doesn't mean I have to like it. Right?

Tam · 09-03-2005, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

detoxed, some good came out of this. I finally got off my ass and made a donation. I also called to see what I can do to help when people show up in my state tomorrow.

I realized that it is us that have to do something. We cannot all stay on vacation and wait to be asked.

Exactly!!! The minute I get paid, I have already alloted some of my pay to this cause. I don't donate much and I mean it, if I had the means, I would put a family or so up, I just don't have the means for that, but I am donating when I get paid. But this has been a plan since it happened. But maybe this will do it for others as well.... and if this is the case, then this was a very good thread.

badmin · 09-03-2005, 03:33 PM

plain and simple failure of the local leadership. The mayor and governor knew the city was succeptable to flooding. Where are all the boats the police should have to maintain order? I mean come on...These people couldn't even hold out for a couple of days until the feds got involved. That's pathetic.

detoxed · 09-03-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tam

So you are telling me that in order for them to come in and send troops in to get control of things and to stabalize the situation, they need to get HER out of the way to do this? Maybe I am missing something, but I didn't think she had the authority to call in the guards, so to speak......... she can request them, which she DID.... but past that, what blame does she hold in this? I guess I am just stupid because I just don't get that.

People are killing, raping and stealing and shit, but this is her doing? Who does it fall on to get troops in there? I guess once you find that out, then there is where your fingers should be pointing...... I DO realize she is accountable for things, but she is one person, she can't do all that by herself, I don't care who she is, she isn't god! Right?

Irregardless of any of this though. those people need help and someone needs to get off their asses in ALL of those states and get it done. All I am saying is take care of things and then blame later, they are spending way too much precious energy blaming everyone and their brother. I guess if you want to get technical about this, you can JUST about blame anyone, but what's that going to fix here and now?

I am NOT a political person, so I could care less about politics, but any idiot can see those people need help and could probably care two shits about poilitics right now. And YES I am aware everything is about politics, doesn't mean I have to like it. Right?

Most of those points are not what this is about

Heywood Jablome · 09-03-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tam

Exactly!!! The minute I get paid, I have already alloted some of my pay to this cause. I don't donate much and I mean it, if I had the means, I would put a family or so up, I just don't have the means for that, but I am donating when I get paid. But this has been a plan since it happened. But maybe this will do it for others as well.... and if this is the case, then this was a very good thread.

There are 100 refugee families staying at hotels in my community. My wife & kids went out this morning with $500 in Walmart gift cards to see if anybody needed help. It turns out that the local churches have been taking care of EVERYBODY, they are bringing them 3 meals a day and supplying them with everything they needed. Our community sent 3 semi-trailers full of supplies down south today.

I imagine there are hundreds, if not thousands, of other communities responding the same way.

If you really want to help, give blood as soon as you can and try to recruit others to give blood.

Tam · 09-03-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Heywood Jablome

There are 100 refugee families staying at hotels in my community. My wife & kids went out this morning with $500 in Walmart gift cards to see if anybody needed help. It turns out that the local churches have been taking care of EVERYBODY, they are bringing them 3 meals a day and supplying them with everything they needed. Our community sent 3 semi-trailers full of supplies down south today.

I imagine there are hundreds, if not thousands, of other communities responding the same way.

If you really want to help, give blood as soon as you can and try to recruit others to give blood.

That is awesome and how it should be.... people helping people. That is great that your community, as well as others, are stepping up.

As for blood, I can't give blood myself, I have this little heart thing called a mitral valve prolapse and they won't let me give blood.. but I do agree, that's a good idea and I would be willing to bet they are having blood drives around here, they always do when this sort of thing happens.

My kids schools are all making care packages for them, they sent the forms home with them yesterday, which makes my kids feel good and like they are doing something to help.

detoxed, that's fine..... and I respect what you are saying, but I still don't think blaming is doing anything at this point in the game. Hell, I ain't even gonna point the finger at Bush or anyone else... just get them helped, that's all MY point is, anyone else can have all the points they wanna have, MY point is just get them help and don't waste precious energy doing anything else right now.

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Nismo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 4,977	I am absolutely amazed at some of you people. Your true ignorance shines through and it is very sad that you breathe the same air I breathe. Most of it is nothing but armchair politics from people who have never even been to the 'nolia. "They were TOLD to get out of the city weren't they? It's their fault they got stranded. They didn't listen." "They were TOLD to take 5 days rations with them. It's their fault they don't have any food or water. They didn't listen." "How could they not have gas to get out of the city. Don't these people have gas cans in their garages for their lawn mowers. They could have gotten a gallon or so out of that couldn't they?" "Oh come on... Everyone owns a car." "How can a person not have $50 bucks in the bank for a motel room? Well even if they didn't they could have used their debt card." "What do you mean they didn't want to leave their homes? You mean someone would actually want what those people have?" __________________ i buy massive xxx dating traffic.

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Ninja Scripts Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Retired Posts: 1,032	Much classier though. http://www.local6.com/news/4923019/detail.html

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detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	Bottom line: Governor of the great state of Louisiana is a disgrace as a leader and should resign within 48 hours as a favor to her constituents. Haha I'm done with you guys

09-03-2005, 02:35 PM	#67
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	just read your last post. 9 tractor trailers of fire fighting equipement is not the type of response that most americans would expect in this type of situation. I seriously am very surprised that we do so much more for other countries and our own people are ignored. Republicans must really love forms and protocol.

09-03-2005, 02:45 PM	#73
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	its amazing the spin machine starts blaming the locals and people bite

09-03-2005, 02:57 PM	#76
wjxxx So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,448	they didn`t even evacuate hospitals before hurricane

09-03-2005, 03:22 PM	#80
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	detoxed, some good came out of this. I finally got off my ass and made a donation. I also called to see what I can do to help when people show up in my state tomorrow. I realized that it is us that have to do something. We cannot all stay on vacation and wait to be asked.

09-03-2005, 03:33 PM	#83
badmin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 71	plain and simple failure of the local leadership. The mayor and governor knew the city was succeptable to flooding. Where are all the boats the police should have to maintain order? I mean come on...These people couldn't even hold out for a couple of days until the feds got involved. That's pathetic.