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DirkG · 08-30-2005, 06:01 PM

Anyone dealing with sponsor be warned, he has no idea how business works. He sent me a letter telling me I couldnt use his galleries if I was using a competing sponsor. Idiot.

OK. Enough is enough. This guy is crazy. Now he false states his TOS says tgps with trade scripts are not welcome. Someone please check them out and verify they dont before he changes them.
Here are our emails in their entire form.

OK. I will make sure and post these emails for you at GFY and AWI. We are already having quite a conversation about you. Up until now I haven?t named names. But I feel its pretty important that my fellow webmasters know what kind of sponsor they may be signing up for. I also have copies of your sign up page and TOS. Nothing in there states I cant promote other programs at the same time as your, and nothing in there says I cant use a trade script, which nearly all of todays tgps do.
Also no where in any of my emails did I ever say anything about trade scripts. So I guess you went back to my site to check out my gallery rotation script again since you mistook it for a trade script. Have no fears, I will be in contact with the owner of this script and make sure you are taken out of it.

________________________________________
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe A
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:05 PM
To: total
Subject: Re: Sahara Gets dirty Affiliate Programme Signup

I hate to say this but I'm not happy to work with affiliates who use trading scripts when promoting Sahara's site. I do state this somewhere before you signed up.

If you ever run a clean tgp or links page or you make your own galleries from my material, you'll be a welcome addition.

Sorry about this

Joe A
----- Original Message -----
From: total
To: 'Joe A'
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:15 AM
Subject: RE: Sahara Gets dirty Affiliate Programme Signup

Look deeper into the site and you will see that each link is actually going to the same rotating script. I don?t know if you clicked the links or what. Each rotator script owned by Muliniche. I get 99% of the traffic that clicks on each link, the other 1% either goes to his affiliate code or his tgp. As far as how many galleries from each sponsor are in what script, I don?t know. If you are saying I cant promote two different sponsors, I have no control over that either since I don?t own the script.

________________________________________
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe A
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 2:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Sahara Gets dirty Affiliate Programme Signup

Hi

In just looked at http://www.totally4free.com/indian.shtml and 99% of the listed pages there are to Anjali. Are these your own or affiliates for her site, and so I would like to know how you'll be promoting Sahara Gets Dirty.

I know it might seem strange for a sponsor to query a new affiliate, but I don't like to see both Anjali's and Sahara's sites almost fighting for attention on tgps etc. I look at the posts on Netpond where wm's are asking for trades with other Indian tgp's and all they do is promote Anjali, so in effect any traffic sent to them just sells her and no one else.... DUH. I won't work with anyone who has a site like that.

I have 60+ hosted pages for Sahara plus a lot of the material is available in zip files to create your own pages, so if you would let me know your plans, I'll send you all the details by return

Regards

Joe A.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sahara Gets dirty Affiliate Programme
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: Sahara Gets dirty Affiliate Programme Signup

A new partner has just signed up under Sahara Gets dirty Affiliate Programme.

Affiliate ID: 1037574

JoeA · 08-30-2005, 06:26 PM

As I just emailed you.. I don't think English is your first language...

Read it and if you don't understand what I've been trying to say, then I suggest you wait till you reach 18 to get in to the adult industry...

DirkG · 08-30-2005, 07:09 PM

Nevermind, I am not even going to reply to that.

~Ray · 08-30-2005, 07:12 PM

ok, obey my commands at all times.. you ready?! ,,, you ready?!! Let's get it on!

DirkG · 08-30-2005, 07:30 PM

He is too busy on AWI making a fool of himself to come back here and make a fool of himself.
He really thinks that if I have a trade script I either shouldnt use his program, or I should create a seperate page for just his links and try to sell his program before they even click on his hosted galleries. Which by his definition are only for "lazy webmasters".

JoeA · 08-30-2005, 07:49 PM

To put it bluntly I didn't want you as an affilliate for Sahara's site but you were accepted for Ravishing.. I look forwards to the 1000's of hits and sales from your wonderful little TGP... LOL

Or are you going to stamp your feet you little boy and not promote Ravishing now.. Either way I don't give a fuck about a little guy in this biz like you ..

sicone · 08-30-2005, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

Either way I don't give a fuck about a little guy in this biz like you ..

great attitude to have

PR_Dave · 08-30-2005, 08:03 PM

Please forward all your indian traffic to:

www.indiandreamgirl.com

~Ray · 08-30-2005, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

To put it bluntly I didn't want you as an affilliate for Sahara's site but you were accepted for Ravishing.. I look forwards to the 1000's of hits and sales from your wonderful little TGP... LOL

Or are you going to stamp your feet you little boy and not promote Ravishing now.. Either way I don't give a fuck about a little guy in this biz like you ..

little guys can get big too... mama said so

Makingcoin · 08-30-2005, 08:03 PM

http://saharagetsdirty.com/

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BlackCrayon · 08-30-2005, 08:10 PM

im not a big fan of trade scripts either but whats the big deal? strange rules.

sicone · 08-30-2005, 08:12 PM

also, until you pay for my hosting you have no say whatsoever in who I promote and when I promote them.

get a clue

broke · 08-30-2005, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin

http://saharagetsdirty.com/

There is no website configured at this address.

Try http://www.saharagetsdirty.com/

08-30-2005, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

To put it bluntly I didn't want you as an affilliate for Sahara's site but you were accepted for Ravishing.. I look forwards to the 1000's of hits and sales from your wonderful little TGP... LOL

Or are you going to stamp your feet you little boy and not promote Ravishing now.. Either way I don't give a fuck about a little guy in this biz like you ..

Are you kidding me?

Small or large, all affiliate traffic is helping to make your site what it is today. From the guy sending 2 hits a day, to the guy sending 2,000,000, you need to treat them all with respect.

ace0r · 08-30-2005, 08:22 PM

i tried dealing with this joe guy too about a year ago, he is a clueless fucking idiot.
send your indian traffic to netpondcash or adoreanjali.com

scottie0779 · 08-30-2005, 08:30 PM

Christ! First it's 4 billion different TGPs with 4 billion DIFFERENT pickyass rules, now sponsors? Jeez... can we say standardize?

JoeA · 08-30-2005, 08:33 PM

Sicone

And when you pay for my hosting you can tell me who I should have as an affiliate... LOL

You guys are really strange never mind me... I didn't want the guy as an affiliate for one of my sites. It's as simple as that, except he had to go crying everywhere like a spoilt child.

Out of interest how many tgp's are there on the net ? How many are good enough to make real money for the sponsors and themselves ? Very few I'm sure. I work with a few of the very big MGP and links sites who have real traffic and make us all $$$.

I've found in the six years of only running Indian avs and pay sites that most tgp traffic just want freebies. A surfer goes to a tgp and we'll say it has 100 links to galleries, each with 15-20 pics... With all that about why would the surfer want to join a site

In fact he could make an illegal site from all the free content he's able to steal... LOL.

sicone · 08-30-2005, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

Sicone

And when you pay for my hosting you can tell me who I should have as an affiliate... LOL

hmm, seems to me the people sending you traffic and sales no matter how its sent and how much is sent is what pays your hosting. At least that's how it works over here for the program I work for... and oddly enough, we are somewhat successful

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

never mind me...

good advice, you're clueless and useless

LittleMack · 08-30-2005, 08:57 PM

Wow, this is amazing. Not going to slam either one but shit, scratching my head. We provide FHG's to our WM's to promote our 70+sites and provide other creatives that have made our affiliates millions since 1996...our program works. We do have limitations how how you promote(ie, no spam) but not to extreme exclusivity. I am with Sherm, I will talk to the dormant webmaster that has not sent traffic in over a year to the large WM's that send large traffic amounts daily. All treated the same. Our affiliates are gold and if they want to promote with other sites on their TGP's it is still a sales opportunity for PK to make sales and the WM to make nice $$$$. Just my 2 cents.

08-30-2005, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleMack

Wow, this is amazing. Not going to slam either one but shit, scratching my head. We provide FHG's to our WM's to promote our 70+sites and provide other creatives that have made our affiliates millions since 1996...our program works. We do have limitations how how you promote(ie, no spam) but not to extreme exclusivity. I am with Sherm, I will talk to the dormant webmaster that has not sent traffic in over a year to the large WM's that send large traffic amounts daily. All treated the same. Our affiliates are gold and if they want to promote with other sites on their TGP's it is still a sales opportunity for PK to make sales and the WM to make nice $$$$. Just my 2 cents.

...And because I like hearing that attitude, you've just earned one more affiliate. I have a couple hits I can send a day.

Edit: I was already an affiliate... Now I'll just be actively promoting you.

LittleMack · 08-30-2005, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shermsshack

...And because I like hearing that attitude, you've just earned one more affiliate. I have a couple hits I can send a day.

Edit: I was already an affiliate... Now I'll just be actively promoting you.

Thanks, hit media or myself up with any questions you might have. Welcome back Sherm.

dig420 · 08-30-2005, 09:18 PM

mess with small timers who have no clue and you get what you get.

Why anyone would promote any Indian chick besides Anjali is beyond me anyway. I don't even promote the niche but I know who that chick is. One of the most fuckable chicks on teh intarweb for sure.

dig420 · 08-30-2005, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

To put it bluntly I didn't want you as an affilliate for Sahara's site but you were accepted for Ravishing.. I look forwards to the 1000's of hits and sales from your wonderful little TGP... LOL

Or are you going to stamp your feet you little boy and not promote Ravishing now.. Either way I don't give a fuck about a little guy in this biz like you ..

I don't predict a lot of success in your future.

JoeA · 08-30-2005, 09:30 PM

I do the same with affiliates.

When I send them the welcome email with details for the promotional material, I always include that they know where I am and if they ever need anything they only have to ask. I often make up specific packs of pics for affiliates for their own galleries. I've even shot content specially for them. If I have a productive affiliate, I'll climb a mountain. If I find an affiliate who's slowed down, I will also ask him "What's up"

I just don't like moaning kids ..

Monique Niccole · 08-30-2005, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

To put it bluntly I didn't want you as an affilliate for Sahara's site but you were accepted for Ravishing.. I look forwards to the 1000's of hits and sales from your wonderful little TGP... LOL

Or are you going to stamp your feet you little boy and not promote Ravishing now.. Either way I don't give a fuck about a little guy in this biz like you ..

Sponsors with this attitude just make me shake my head. Every whale was a "little guy" at some point. Believe me, those programs who showed a small webmaster love in his/her early days will continue to get the bulk of his traffic as they grow.

You assume that this guy only has one little TGP to send traffic from, but he could have an entire network of TGP's, free sites, AVS, blogs, SEO pages, etc. that he's willing to put your site up on if you perform and work with him on converting his TGP traffic.

Fucking amazing.

BlackCrayon · 08-30-2005, 09:35 PM

if you don't want certain people as affiliates make you should make your program invite only, where you have to show your sites and how you will promote, etc. still seems silly tho. i guess you are worried about wasted bandwidth?

JoeA · 08-30-2005, 09:42 PM

OK...

My comments about David being a little guy with a little tgp are only directed at him. I have quite few affiliates who have exactly the same type of site but they don't have his attitude of stomping feet and crying...

He has made a mountain out of a molehill.. Simple as that. Unfortunately I rose to the bait

DirkG · 08-30-2005, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

OK...

My comments about David being a little guy with a little tgp are only directed at him. I have quite few affiliates who have exactly the same type of site but they don't have his attitude of stomping feet and crying...

He has made a mountain out of a molehill.. Simple as that. Unfortunately I rose to the bait

I am not stomping feet and crying, I am rolling around laughing at your piss ass attitude. Way to back peddle about having sending your "welcome" email to try and dig yourself out of your hole. It didnt work.
You know in 1999 I had a couple of trades with Indian TGP's and totally4free. I seem to remember one of them was sending me some of the worst traffic ever. I swear it was hitbot, but at that time it was pretty hard to tell a good hitbot through server logs. Was it your site?
Hey, how come you havnt found my message on Opran.o? You sure are loved over there. Something about your kids?

JoeA · 08-30-2005, 10:36 PM

Quote" Something about your kids? "

On Oprano if you read the comments correctly.. They were talking about Greenguy, I would say that you must be as sick as Aoen !!!!

Aoen bless him was never an AdultCheck wm. He was always an Age Check/CyberAge wm, so any comments from him are totally worthless. The posts there also talk more about jealousy than me. In fact you had to post again to try and generate something but.. Nothing so far... LOL.

Next... I'm not back peddling at all. I reply to every affiliate. I welcomed you as one to Ravishing, and here's the cut and paste which was sent to you at 10.57pm UK time. Are you going to deny it ???

Hi again David...

Sahara is a different issue to Ravishing and you'll find all the promotional material here:

www.ravishingindians.net

Good luck and regards

Joe A

Look I even said "Good Luck," as I'm such a bad wm...

Finally.... I have never run a tgp, so wouldn't have sent you any hits. My first ever site was a pay site and I made two avs sites in Feb 1999 to promote it. From there I just made avs sites for ages.

DirkG · 08-31-2005, 12:21 AM

I have nothing but respect for GreenGuy. Aoen was out of line. I misinterpreted his rants and thought you may want to reply to him.

xxxice · 08-31-2005, 12:33 AM

Interesting thread

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emthree · 08-31-2005, 01:49 AM

Wow, you're an asshole.

Turf · 08-31-2005, 02:34 AM

damn dude your sites need a redesign.. i surgest you save up a few months sales and get someone to rework the designs for you, this time select someone who knows how grafix is made - fugly sites!!

JoeA · 08-31-2005, 05:59 AM

A question

Aren't sponsors allowed to decide if they want a wm as an affiliate or not ? I didn't like the guys site so I rejected him. I have many affilates who have tgps as I've said before.

If you can see, DAVID didn't reply to my point about him being accepted as an affilaite for another of my sites..

Yup all my sites are ugly but they sell... Maybe cos I have REAL Indians not White girls with bindi;s stuck on there forehead..

demented · 08-31-2005, 06:15 AM

Don't matter if an affiliate is sending 100 hits or 10,000 hits, they get treated the same by me. If you're going to be successful in this business you have to learn that. It's simple.. Try taking care of your affiliates, helping them with whatever they need & giving them tips on how to promote your sites. I'm very thankful for any and every affiliate we can get, and I show them that

Realpascal · 08-31-2005, 06:19 AM

JoeA, you have a fucking attitude problem man.

JoeA · 08-31-2005, 06:56 AM

To prove that David is just a little boy and knows fuck all..

He claims I won't allow rival sponsors.. I could have killed him off a lot earlier but I forgot about this great affiliate of mine: http://www.indiansexmodels.com/

Oh.. He has Anjali and Sahara on one page.. DUH. Yeah I won't allow other sponsors..

Get a life David ....

Jace · 08-31-2005, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Realpascal

JoeA, you have a fucking attitude problem man.

shut the fuck you up you little trolling surfer, you don't even GET to have a say in real drama...go back to your 1000 posts a day bullshit, idiot

wjxxx · 08-31-2005, 07:13 AM

Some sponsors don`t allow their FHG`s on skimming TGP`s. Nothing new.

DirkG · 08-31-2005, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

To prove that David is just a little boy and knows fuck all..

He claims I won't allow rival sponsors.. I could have killed him off a lot earlier but I forgot about this great affiliate of mine: http://www.indiansexmodels.com/

Oh.. He has Anjali and Sahara on one page.. DUH. Yeah I won't allow other sponsors..

Get a life David ....

Isnt that like say, "Yeah I have black friends"
And that to bring up a lpoint raised on another board, why is it ok for your affiliates to violate ICANN policy and have fake WHOIS information?

WJXXX- The sponsors that I have seen that dont allow skimming tgps are saying they dont allow skimming from their THUMBS since they own them. Thats fine. I have a text TGP. My link says "Todays Indian Galleries"
But according to him using his hosted galleries makes me, and most of the rest of you "lazy leeches".

JoeA · 08-31-2005, 09:49 AM

David

"Isnt that like say, "Yeah I have black friends" No it's not the same... That is one of the affiliates who sells another sponsor on the same page, so your comments are crap... I could show you quite a few others but I thought that as Anjali was mentioned in my first email reply to you, that would be a good example of showing you are wrong...

candyflip · 08-31-2005, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin

http://saharagetsdirty.com/

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The guy who started the thread said the dude running the site is clueless.

http://www.saharagetsdirty.com/ - works
http://saharagetsdirty.com/ - doesn't

Might have good content, but doesn't sound like he can run a site or affiliate program.

08-31-2005, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

The guy who started the thread said the dude running the site is clueless.

http://www.saharagetsdirty.com/ - works
http://saharagetsdirty.com/ - doesn't

Might have good content, but doesn't sound like he can run a site or affiliate program.

That really is throwing away a shit load of type in traffic. I think they had hosting problems though and recently were forced to switch to a new host. Perhaps the new host just hasn't configured it correctly yet, which would be their fault.

DirkG · 08-31-2005, 12:55 PM

520 page views and a lot of good comments so far.
Maybe your program should be by invite only and you can get rid of the hosted galleries.
Then all the "lazy webmasters" can send their traffic to someone else and leave you alone.

JoeA · 08-31-2005, 01:00 PM

Hi Evildick

Thanks... You are right.. After hackers brought down the server I moved asap. It still took a week to get it 99% back to norm. I also had Ray install Strongbox and it's caused that problem, as the wild card config wasn't right.. It's being done now.. Hopefully.

The affiliate programme is still live and kicking http://affiliates.saharagetsdirty.com as Davids posts everywhere have got people interested, and I've had more affiliates sign up than normally...... LOL . This is one of them and his site looks a darn site better than Davids , so I'm more hopeful of sales: http://www.ebonyxxxgalleries.com/

polle54 · 08-31-2005, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

To put it bluntly I didn't want you as an affilliate for Sahara's site but you were accepted for Ravishing.. I look forwards to the 1000's of hits and sales from your wonderful little TGP... LOL

Or are you going to stamp your feet you little boy and not promote Ravishing now.. Either way I don't give a fuck about a little guy in this biz like you ..

Nice attitude fuckface, hope that everybody reads this and rightfully decide not to work with an arrogant freak like you.

Hope you go broke.

polle54 · 08-31-2005, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

Hi Evildick

Thanks... You are right.. After hackers brought down the server I moved asap. It still took a week to get it 99% back to norm. I also had Ray install Strongbox and it's caused that problem, as the wild card config wasn't right.. It's being done now.. Hopefully.

The affiliate programme is still live and kicking http://affiliates.saharagetsdirty.com as Davids posts everywhere have got people interested, and I've had more affiliates sign up than normally...... LOL . This is one of them and his site looks a darn site better than Davids , so I'm more hopeful of sales: http://www.ebonyxxxgalleries.com/

Hahahaha that is so funny I just looked at the sahara site and it looks like a five year old created that shit, you suck!

Please if there is just one webmaster using this guy tell me why you are doing it?????

DirkG · 08-31-2005, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeA

Hi Evildick

Thanks... You are right.. After hackers brought down the server I moved asap. It still took a week to get it 99% back to norm. I also had Ray install Strongbox and it's caused that problem, as the wild card config wasn't right.. It's being done now.. Hopefully.

The affiliate programme is still live and kicking http://affiliates.saharagetsdirty.com as Davids posts everywhere have got people interested, and I've had more affiliates sign up than normally...... LOL . This is one of them and his site looks a darn site better than Davids , so I'm more hopeful of sales: http://www.ebonyxxxgalleries.com/

I'LL make sure and email this guy with this thread so he can see you attitude toward tgp and trade scripts. And dont worry, I wont be looking for any refferal checks.

JoeA · 08-31-2005, 02:48 PM

David

And maybe he'll tell you about the email he received which was nothing like the one I sent you. He received my normal reply

Ninja Scripts · 08-31-2005, 02:56 PM

Haha, a sponsor not liking trade scripts is 100% up to them. Click on sponsor A's content you should get to something selling sponsor A. As far as him not wanting his stuff on 1000 small TGP's, can't say I blame him for that either. Quit whining and promote someone else.

08-30-2005, 06:01 PM	#1
DirkG Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 289	Crazy fucking sponsor - Saharagetsdirty.com - The whole story Anyone dealing with sponsor be warned, he has no idea how business works. He sent me a letter telling me I couldnt use his galleries if I was using a competing sponsor. Idiot. OK. Enough is enough. This guy is crazy. Now he false states his TOS says tgps with trade scripts are not welcome. Someone please check them out and verify they dont before he changes them. Here are our emails in their entire form. OK. I will make sure and post these emails for you at GFY and AWI. We are already having quite a conversation about you. Up until now I haven?t named names. But I feel its pretty important that my fellow webmasters know what kind of sponsor they may be signing up for. I also have copies of your sign up page and TOS. Nothing in there states I cant promote other programs at the same time as your, and nothing in there says I cant use a trade script, which nearly all of todays tgps do. Also no where in any of my emails did I ever say anything about trade scripts. So I guess you went back to my site to check out my gallery rotation script again since you mistook it for a trade script. Have no fears, I will be in contact with the owner of this script and make sure you are taken out of it. ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe A Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:05 PM To: total Subject: Re: Sahara Gets dirty Affiliate Programme Signup I hate to say this but I'm not happy to work with affiliates who use trading scripts when promoting Sahara's site. I do state this somewhere before you signed up. If you ever run a clean tgp or links page or you make your own galleries from my material, you'll be a welcome addition. Sorry about this Joe A ----- Original Message ----- From: total To: 'Joe A' Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:15 AM Subject: RE: Sahara Gets dirty Affiliate Programme Signup Look deeper into the site and you will see that each link is actually going to the same rotating script. I don?t know if you clicked the links or what. Each rotator script owned by Muliniche. I get 99% of the traffic that clicks on each link, the other 1% either goes to his affiliate code or his tgp. As far as how many galleries from each sponsor are in what script, I don?t know. If you are saying I cant promote two different sponsors, I have no control over that either since I don?t own the script. ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe A Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 2:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Sahara Gets dirty Affiliate Programme Signup Hi In just looked at http://www.totally4free.com/indian.shtml and 99% of the listed pages there are to Anjali. Are these your own or affiliates for her site, and so I would like to know how you'll be promoting Sahara Gets Dirty. I know it might seem strange for a sponsor to query a new affiliate, but I don't like to see both Anjali's and Sahara's sites almost fighting for attention on tgps etc. I look at the posts on Netpond where wm's are asking for trades with other Indian tgp's and all they do is promote Anjali, so in effect any traffic sent to them just sells her and no one else.... DUH. I won't work with anyone who has a site like that. I have 60+ hosted pages for Sahara plus a lot of the material is available in zip files to create your own pages, so if you would let me know your plans, I'll send you all the details by return Regards Joe A. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sahara Gets dirty Affiliate Programme To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:43 PM Subject: Sahara Gets dirty Affiliate Programme Signup A new partner has just signed up under Sahara Gets dirty Affiliate Programme. Affiliate ID: 1037574 __________________ Trade traffic with Totally4free TGP HERE aptgp III - If you aren't using it, you haven't seen it. DOWNLOAD NOW

08-30-2005, 06:26 PM	#2
JoeA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Posts: 568	DAVID you really are a PRICK !!! As I just emailed you.. I don't think English is your first language... Read it and if you don't understand what I've been trying to say, then I suggest you wait till you reach 18 to get in to the adult industry... __________________ www.saharagetsdirty.com/ www.ravishingindians.com/ www.anglo-indian-girls.com/

08-30-2005, 07:09 PM	#3
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08-30-2005, 07:30 PM	#5
DirkG Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 289	He is too busy on AWI making a fool of himself to come back here and make a fool of himself. He really thinks that if I have a trade script I either shouldnt use his program, or I should create a seperate page for just his links and try to sell his program before they even click on his hosted galleries. Which by his definition are only for "lazy webmasters". __________________ Trade traffic with Totally4free TGP HERE aptgp III - If you aren't using it, you haven't seen it. DOWNLOAD NOW

08-30-2005, 07:49 PM	#6
JoeA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Posts: 568	David To put it bluntly I didn't want you as an affilliate for Sahara's site but you were accepted for Ravishing.. I look forwards to the 1000's of hits and sales from your wonderful little TGP... LOL Or are you going to stamp your feet you little boy and not promote Ravishing now.. Either way I don't give a fuck about a little guy in this biz like you .. __________________ www.saharagetsdirty.com/ www.ravishingindians.com/ www.anglo-indian-girls.com/

08-30-2005, 08:03 PM	#8
PR_Dave Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Italy Posts: 2,792	Please forward all your indian traffic to: www.indiandreamgirl.com __________________ www.PIMPROLL.com

08-30-2005, 08:03 PM	#10
Makingcoin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Ditch Posts: 8,919	http://saharagetsdirty.com/ There is no website configured at this address. You are seeing this page because there is nothing configured for the site you have requested. If you think you are seeing this page in error, please contact the site administrator or datacenter responsible for this site. __________________ www.MAKINGCOIN.com icq. 166-662-831 "Start making large coin!" Daddy I Get Paid To Be A Whore - Coming Soon

08-30-2005, 08:10 PM	#11
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	im not a big fan of trade scripts either but whats the big deal? strange rules. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

08-30-2005, 08:12 PM	#12
sicone Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sac Posts: 18,453	also, until you pay for my hosting you have no say whatsoever in who I promote and when I promote them. get a clue __________________

08-30-2005, 08:22 PM	#15
ace0r Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Calabasa, CA & Chicago, IL Posts: 1,410	i tried dealing with this joe guy too about a year ago, he is a clueless fucking idiot. send your indian traffic to netpondcash or adoreanjali.com

08-30-2005, 08:30 PM	#16
scottie0779 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: IL US Posts: 287	Christ! First it's 4 billion different TGPs with 4 billion DIFFERENT pickyass rules, now sponsors? Jeez... can we say standardize? __________________ Scottie ICQ 213 164 680

08-30-2005, 08:33 PM	#17
JoeA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Posts: 568	Sicone And when you pay for my hosting you can tell me who I should have as an affiliate... LOL You guys are really strange never mind me... I didn't want the guy as an affiliate for one of my sites. It's as simple as that, except he had to go crying everywhere like a spoilt child. Out of interest how many tgp's are there on the net ? How many are good enough to make real money for the sponsors and themselves ? Very few I'm sure. I work with a few of the very big MGP and links sites who have real traffic and make us all $$$. I've found in the six years of only running Indian avs and pay sites that most tgp traffic just want freebies. A surfer goes to a tgp and we'll say it has 100 links to galleries, each with 15-20 pics... With all that about why would the surfer want to join a site In fact he could make an illegal site from all the free content he's able to steal... LOL. __________________ www.saharagetsdirty.com/ www.ravishingindians.com/ www.anglo-indian-girls.com/

08-30-2005, 08:57 PM	#19
LittleMack www.pornkings.com Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Baby!! Posts: 4,645	Wow, this is amazing. Not going to slam either one but shit, scratching my head. We provide FHG's to our WM's to promote our 70+sites and provide other creatives that have made our affiliates millions since 1996...our program works. We do have limitations how how you promote(ie, no spam) but not to extreme exclusivity. I am with Sherm, I will talk to the dormant webmaster that has not sent traffic in over a year to the large WM's that send large traffic amounts daily. All treated the same. Our affiliates are gold and if they want to promote with other sites on their TGP's it is still a sales opportunity for PK to make sales and the WM to make nice $$$$. Just my 2 cents. __________________ [email protected]

08-30-2005, 09:18 PM	#22
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	mess with small timers who have no clue and you get what you get. Why anyone would promote any Indian chick besides Anjali is beyond me anyway. I don't even promote the niche but I know who that chick is. One of the most fuckable chicks on teh intarweb for sure.

08-30-2005, 09:30 PM	#24
JoeA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Posts: 568	LittleMack I do the same with affiliates. When I send them the welcome email with details for the promotional material, I always include that they know where I am and if they ever need anything they only have to ask. I often make up specific packs of pics for affiliates for their own galleries. I've even shot content specially for them. If I have a productive affiliate, I'll climb a mountain. If I find an affiliate who's slowed down, I will also ask him "What's up" I just don't like moaning kids .. __________________ www.saharagetsdirty.com/ www.ravishingindians.com/ www.anglo-indian-girls.com/

08-30-2005, 09:35 PM	#26
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	if you don't want certain people as affiliates make you should make your program invite only, where you have to show your sites and how you will promote, etc. still seems silly tho. i guess you are worried about wasted bandwidth? __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

08-30-2005, 09:42 PM	#27
JoeA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Posts: 568	OK... My comments about David being a little guy with a little tgp are only directed at him. I have quite few affiliates who have exactly the same type of site but they don't have his attitude of stomping feet and crying... He has made a mountain out of a molehill.. Simple as that. Unfortunately I rose to the bait __________________ www.saharagetsdirty.com/ www.ravishingindians.com/ www.anglo-indian-girls.com/

08-30-2005, 10:36 PM	#29
JoeA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Posts: 568	David Quote" Something about your kids? " On Oprano if you read the comments correctly.. They were talking about Greenguy, I would say that you must be as sick as Aoen !!!! Aoen bless him was never an AdultCheck wm. He was always an Age Check/CyberAge wm, so any comments from him are totally worthless. The posts there also talk more about jealousy than me. In fact you had to post again to try and generate something but.. Nothing so far... LOL. Next... I'm not back peddling at all. I reply to every affiliate. I welcomed you as one to Ravishing, and here's the cut and paste which was sent to you at 10.57pm UK time. Are you going to deny it ??? Hi again David... Sahara is a different issue to Ravishing and you'll find all the promotional material here: www.ravishingindians.net Good luck and regards Joe A Look I even said "Good Luck," as I'm such a bad wm... Finally.... I have never run a tgp, so wouldn't have sent you any hits. My first ever site was a pay site and I made two avs sites in Feb 1999 to promote it. From there I just made avs sites for ages. __________________ www.saharagetsdirty.com/ www.ravishingindians.com/ www.anglo-indian-girls.com/

08-31-2005, 12:21 AM	#30
DirkG Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 289	I have nothing but respect for GreenGuy. Aoen was out of line. I misinterpreted his rants and thought you may want to reply to him. __________________ Trade traffic with Totally4free TGP HERE aptgp III - If you aren't using it, you haven't seen it. DOWNLOAD NOW

08-31-2005, 12:33 AM	#31
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	Interesting thread ...

08-31-2005, 01:49 AM	#32
emthree Dialer Kingpin Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York Posts: 10,816	Wow, you're an asshole. __________________ • Sell Patches & Pills •

08-31-2005, 02:34 AM	#33
Turf Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: ICQ: 64644691 Posts: 1,865	damn dude your sites need a redesign.. i surgest you save up a few months sales and get someone to rework the designs for you, this time select someone who knows how grafix is made - fugly sites!! __________________ Daddy Strokes - mature men stroking their meat Mature Gay Movies - mature men fucking everyone! Pleasing Daddy - young girls fucking mature men Looking for submitter accounts for older men niche content (both gay and straight) so hit me up if you run a tube and offer submitter accounts for paysites.

08-31-2005, 05:59 AM	#34
JoeA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Posts: 568	A question Aren't sponsors allowed to decide if they want a wm as an affiliate or not ? I didn't like the guys site so I rejected him. I have many affilates who have tgps as I've said before. If you can see, DAVID didn't reply to my point about him being accepted as an affilaite for another of my sites.. Yup all my sites are ugly but they sell... Maybe cos I have REAL Indians not White girls with bindi;s stuck on there forehead.. __________________ www.saharagetsdirty.com/ www.ravishingindians.com/ www.anglo-indian-girls.com/

08-31-2005, 06:15 AM	#35
demented Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 2,388	Don't matter if an affiliate is sending 100 hits or 10,000 hits, they get treated the same by me. If you're going to be successful in this business you have to learn that. It's simple.. Try taking care of your affiliates, helping them with whatever they need & giving them tips on how to promote your sites. I'm very thankful for any and every affiliate we can get, and I show them that

08-31-2005, 06:19 AM	#36
Realpascal Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dutchie !!! Posts: 2,119	JoeA, you have a fucking attitude problem man. __________________ OMGWTFBBQ

08-31-2005, 06:56 AM	#37
JoeA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Posts: 568	Yup I have attitude ... LOL To prove that David is just a little boy and knows fuck all.. He claims I won't allow rival sponsors.. I could have killed him off a lot earlier but I forgot about this great affiliate of mine: http://www.indiansexmodels.com/ Oh.. He has Anjali and Sahara on one page.. DUH. Yeah I won't allow other sponsors.. Get a life David .... __________________ www.saharagetsdirty.com/ www.ravishingindians.com/ www.anglo-indian-girls.com/

08-31-2005, 07:13 AM	#39
wjxxx So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,448	Some sponsors don`t allow their FHG`s on skimming TGP`s. Nothing new.

08-31-2005, 09:49 AM	#41
JoeA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Posts: 568	David "Isnt that like say, "Yeah I have black friends" No it's not the same... That is one of the affiliates who sells another sponsor on the same page, so your comments are crap... I could show you quite a few others but I thought that as Anjali was mentioned in my first email reply to you, that would be a good example of showing you are wrong... __________________ www.saharagetsdirty.com/ www.ravishingindians.com/ www.anglo-indian-girls.com/

08-31-2005, 12:55 PM	#44
DirkG Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 289	520 page views and a lot of good comments so far. Maybe your program should be by invite only and you can get rid of the hosted galleries. Then all the "lazy webmasters" can send their traffic to someone else and leave you alone. __________________ Trade traffic with Totally4free TGP HERE aptgp III - If you aren't using it, you haven't seen it. DOWNLOAD NOW

08-31-2005, 01:00 PM	#45
JoeA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Posts: 568	Hi Evildick Thanks... You are right.. After hackers brought down the server I moved asap. It still took a week to get it 99% back to norm. I also had Ray install Strongbox and it's caused that problem, as the wild card config wasn't right.. It's being done now.. Hopefully. The affiliate programme is still live and kicking http://affiliates.saharagetsdirty.com as Davids posts everywhere have got people interested, and I've had more affiliates sign up than normally...... LOL . This is one of them and his site looks a darn site better than Davids , so I'm more hopeful of sales: http://www.ebonyxxxgalleries.com/ __________________ www.saharagetsdirty.com/ www.ravishingindians.com/ www.anglo-indian-girls.com/

08-31-2005, 02:48 PM	#49
JoeA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Posts: 568	David And maybe he'll tell you about the email he received which was nothing like the one I sent you. He received my normal reply __________________ www.saharagetsdirty.com/ www.ravishingindians.com/ www.anglo-indian-girls.com/

08-31-2005, 02:56 PM	#50
Ninja Scripts Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Retired Posts: 1,032	Haha, a sponsor not liking trade scripts is 100% up to them. Click on sponsor A's content you should get to something selling sponsor A. As far as him not wanting his stuff on 1000 small TGP's, can't say I blame him for that either. Quit whining and promote someone else.