My thoughts on why the sig market is dead: - GoFuckYourself.com

detoxed · 08-30-2005, 04:18 PM

Because board owners started placing ads in the "content" areas of the board. Such as under peoples names when they post,etc. From the numbers I've seen this has reduced the effectiveness and clicks on sigs by at least 50% over the last year or two.

BusterBunny · 08-30-2005, 04:19 PM

so you are saying im a lil too late to sell my spot? damn im always late to the party

StuartD · 08-30-2005, 04:20 PM

nah, it just died out for the same reason that all other fads do.

detoxed · 08-30-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny

so you are saying im a lil too late to sell my spot? damn im always late to the party

too late to sell it for any good money. Several months in a row I got $500+ a few years ago.. stopped selling soon after and the market turned to shit

boner 2.0 · 08-30-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny

so you are saying im a lil too late to sell my spot? damn im always late to the party

Join Date: 08-29-2005

detoxed · 08-30-2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

nah, it just died out for the same reason that all other fads do.

I dont think an effective marketing campaign is a fad. The numbers died down, which caused the buyers to stop or significantly lower prices. Less clicks = less effective campaigns = less people that can do a profitable sig campaign

Spunky · 08-30-2005, 04:23 PM

Perhaps for some people it has died off, but it has been over saturated with people willing to sell it for 50 bucks that sort of ruined it

SomeCreep · 08-30-2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

Because board owners started placing ads in the "content" areas of the board. Such as under peoples names when they post,etc.

GFY doesnt do that unless the board is skinned and the GFY sig market is still dead.

detoxed · 08-30-2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

Perhaps for some people it has died off, but it has been over saturated with people willing to sell it for 50 bucks that sort of ruined it

Yeah thats a part of it but most of those are overpriced anyway. 1 good person is way better than 5-6 no names who have done nothing and made no money on their own.

detoxed · 08-30-2005, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

GFY doesnt do that unless the board is skinned and the GFY sig market is still dead.

Yes the board has been skinned a lot lately

polish_aristocrat · 08-30-2005, 04:25 PM

TCG ppl still have the best sig deals i'd say, and some of them post just BS

detoxed · 08-30-2005, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

TCG ppl still have the best sig deals i'd say, and some of them post just BS

Yeah that might be a good deal for some people, but I used to get $1+ per post

and what I'm willing to accept keeps going up

Jace · 08-30-2005, 04:27 PM

i don't know why you think it is dead...if you are a valuable member with solid posts, you still get a good amount each month for sigs...when I sell mine, i don't ever get less than $350 a month, usually higher though...the price I sell for depends on how much alcohol is needed to restock the bar on my back porch

right now i just need some toons done, so whoever jumps on that is getting a sweet deal for sure

JFK · 08-30-2005, 04:57 PM

sig market is far from dead...........

detoxed · 08-30-2005, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

sig market is far from dead...........

What are you making from it?

Thomas1007 · 08-30-2005, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

sig market is far from dead...........

I 100% agree. Sure most people arent getting the Inflated prices they would have at one time . I recall some of the sig threads people were boasting af thousands per month. I don't doubt some *very few* people did get that much but most people get a few hundred maybe more depending on the deal.

bhutocracy · 08-30-2005, 05:12 PM

So how much are sigs worth these days?

Donny · 08-30-2005, 05:14 PM

In the case of GFY, what does Lensman get from sigs? Nothing. So why would he care if you don't like him putting in adverts from paid sponsors?

DaddyHalbucks · 08-30-2005, 05:15 PM

Another factor could be the maturation of the online adult industry.

Once upon a time, there were only a few webmaster boards, now it seems like every adult company promotes one.

dropped9 · 08-30-2005, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

Because board owners started placing ads in the "content" areas of the board. Such as under peoples names when they post,etc. From the numbers I've seen this has reduced the effectiveness and clicks on sigs by at least 50% over the last year or two.

2 things...

Market is NOT dead....

and the ads underneath the names have been there before the sig craze...

Thomas1007 · 08-30-2005, 05:20 PM

sig spots are still a good source for sponsors IMHO.
Buying a few sig spots and having thousands of pageviews to each thread in the end is still good marketing value for the dollar.The larger sponsors realize this, hence they continually buys sigs each month.

detoxed · 08-30-2005, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

In the case of GFY, what does Lensman get from sigs? Nothing. So why would he care if you don't like him putting in adverts from paid sponsors?

This thread has nothing to do with whether or not Lensman cares about the sig market. And I never said I didnt like him doing it. I said what effect it had on the market based on NUMBERS or the past few years.

cayne · 08-30-2005, 05:28 PM

Yeah I miss the gold days, where Sleazy sold his sig for 12,5k/month :/

Spunky · 08-30-2005, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cayne

Yeah I miss the gold days, where Sleazy sold his sig for 12,5k/month :/

Don't believe everything you read on here

cayne · 08-30-2005, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

i don't ever get less than $350 a month, usually higher though...

Yeah, but think 1-1,5 years back. Even newbies were getting 30-100$ and ppl with more than 5k, def. ~500$ (of course it depends on the person and daily posting amount) and a lot ppl got 1k+ for their sig. Nowaday I would guess that only ~10 ppl get more than 1k for their sig...but I might be wrong...

cayne · 08-30-2005, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

Don't believe everything you read on here

w00t? So he never sold it for that amount? I really believed it...I thought it was possible in the crazy sig days...

detoxed · 08-30-2005, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cayne

Yeah, but think 1-1,5 years back. Even newbies were getting 30-100$ and ppl with more than 5k, def. ~500$ (of course it depends on the person and daily posting amount) and a lot ppl got 1k+ for their sig. Nowaday I would guess that only ~10 ppl get more than 1k for their sig...but I might be wrong...

I would say way less get $1k for their sig today. Maybe 1-4.

brand0n · 08-30-2005, 05:38 PM

sponsors are looking for a ROI on sigs. branding only works out so much with some people.

if you can produce solid deals, contacts, webmasters, or traffic to the program in your sig then it is worth the sponsors to buy it.. and even renew.

alot of people think that they have a big ass post count and that should be enuff to sell it. thats not the fact.

Juicy D. Links · 08-30-2005, 05:39 PM

I am booked till March 2006 .

Being serious.

Patrick_Bateman · 08-30-2005, 05:39 PM

what is the sig market?

Juicy D. Links · 08-30-2005, 05:40 PM

well then again you do get a FPA with my sig hehehe

detoxed · 08-30-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

sponsors are looking for a ROI on sigs. branding only works out so much with some people.

if you can produce solid deals, contacts, webmasters, or traffic to the program in your sig then it is worth the sponsors to buy it.. and even renew.

alot of people think that they have a big ass post count and that should be enuff to sell it. thats not the fact.

exactly, my post #1 was saying the addition of more advertising hurt sig campaigns roi

SleazyDream · 08-30-2005, 05:50 PM

i've been turning down a lot of offers but i think i may book sept and oct

Doctor Dre · 08-30-2005, 05:58 PM

I've made good money from the sig market over the last year and a half (maybe a bit more ...) . I still do ... It's not really dead ... it's just that too many newbs tried to get in and started whoring the hell out of themselves.

pornguy · 08-30-2005, 06:01 PM

The sig market slowed down, because a lot og people were jumping into the threads saying Hi, and expecthing to get paid.

You need to post, say something have others read it, and see the sig. Not shoot right by because they know you are just trying to make a buck.

cayne · 08-30-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i've been turning down a lot of offers but i think i may book sept and oct

for how much roughly? and why did you reset your postcount? Is that a new trend I missed? :>

Doctor Dre · 08-30-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

The sig market slowed down, because a lot og people were jumping into the threads saying Hi, and expecthing to get paid.

You need to post, say something have others read it, and see the sig. Not shoot right by because they know you are just trying to make a buck.

Yep . But I think right now it's more about branding then other things ... having your name out there in every thread can't be a bad thing ;)

loverboy · 08-31-2005, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny

so you are saying im a lil too late to sell my spot? damn im always late to the party

too late and sig way beyond the allowable size

BastarD · 08-31-2005, 09:43 AM

simple - market died because I have NO sig as for now....

JFK · 08-31-2005, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

What are you making from it?

I make enough from it Not to worry otherwise I would Not be doing it! The terms of my agreement with the Current Sig Sponsor , see below, is confidential. They Have renewed for the last 9 months, so I guess they are happy with what I provide.

body · 08-31-2005, 09:54 AM

why should the market be dead? I click more on sigs than on any banner here on top or bottom!

body · 08-31-2005, 09:56 AM

if a member reads the post carefully or is interested in reading them, sigs get their attention, if a member just post bs and don't read it the sig brings nothing

TDF · 08-31-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

sponsors are looking for a ROI on sigs. branding only works out so much with some people.

if you can produce solid deals, contacts, webmasters, or traffic to the program in your sig then it is worth the sponsors to buy it.. and even renew.

alot of people think that they have a big ass post count and that should be enuff to sell it. thats not the fact.

bingo...........

Bugbee · 08-31-2005, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

I make enough from it Not to worry otherwise I would Not be doing it! The terms of my agreement with the Current Sig Sponsor , see below, is confidential. They Have renewed for the last 9 months, so I guess they are happy with what I provide.

That is cause WE LOVE YOU JFK and it is Money well spent!!!!

JFK · 08-31-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GigaBugbee

That is cause WE LOVE YOU JFK and it is Money well spent!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW GOSH , Thanks Bugbee

08-30-2005, 04:19 PM	#2
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08-30-2005, 04:23 PM	#7
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08-30-2005, 04:18 PM	#1
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	My thoughts on why the sig market is dead: Because board owners started placing ads in the "content" areas of the board. Such as under peoples names when they post,etc. From the numbers I've seen this has reduced the effectiveness and clicks on sigs by at least 50% over the last year or two.

08-30-2005, 04:25 PM	#11
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	TCG ppl still have the best sig deals i'd say, and some of them post just BS

08-30-2005, 04:27 PM	#13
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	i don't know why you think it is dead...if you are a valuable member with solid posts, you still get a good amount each month for sigs...when I sell mine, i don't ever get less than $350 a month, usually higher though...the price I sell for depends on how much alcohol is needed to restock the bar on my back porch right now i just need some toons done, so whoever jumps on that is getting a sweet deal for sure

08-30-2005, 05:12 PM	#17
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	So how much are sigs worth these days?

08-30-2005, 05:14 PM	#18
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	In the case of GFY, what does Lensman get from sigs? Nothing. So why would he care if you don't like him putting in adverts from paid sponsors?

08-30-2005, 05:20 PM	#21
Thomas1007 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BC Canada Posts: 5,542	sig spots are still a good source for sponsors IMHO. Buying a few sig spots and having thousands of pageviews to each thread in the end is still good marketing value for the dollar.The larger sponsors realize this, hence they continually buys sigs each month. __________________ BUY THIS SPOT CONTACT ME FOR DETAILS Contact Email

08-30-2005, 05:28 PM	#23
cayne My time is coming... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Europe --- eMail: service(at)badasscompany.com --- ICQ: 60288510 Posts: 7,476	Yeah I miss the gold days, where Sleazy sold his sig for 12,5k/month :/ __________________ If lesbian anal is wrong, I don't want to be right.

08-30-2005, 05:38 PM	#28
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	sponsors are looking for a ROI on sigs. branding only works out so much with some people. if you can produce solid deals, contacts, webmasters, or traffic to the program in your sig then it is worth the sponsors to buy it.. and even renew. alot of people think that they have a big ass post count and that should be enuff to sell it. thats not the fact. __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

08-30-2005, 05:39 PM	#29
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	I am booked till March 2006 . Being serious.

08-30-2005, 05:39 PM	#30
Patrick_Bateman Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 280	what is the sig market?

08-30-2005, 05:40 PM	#31
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	well then again you do get a FPA with my sig hehehe

08-30-2005, 05:50 PM	#33
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pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	The sig market slowed down, because a lot og people were jumping into the threads saying Hi, and expecthing to get paid. You need to post, say something have others read it, and see the sig. Not shoot right by because they know you are just trying to make a buck. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

08-31-2005, 09:43 AM	#39
BastarD Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Very close to that Jack Daniels bottle.. Posts: 6,341	simple - market died because I have NO sig as for now....

08-31-2005, 09:54 AM	#41
body Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 5,012	why should the market be dead? I click more on sigs than on any banner here on top or bottom! __________________ The Goddess Of Steps

08-31-2005, 09:56 AM	#42
body Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 5,012	if a member reads the post carefully or is interested in reading them, sigs get their attention, if a member just post bs and don't read it the sig brings nothing __________________ The Goddess Of Steps