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Old 08-30-2005, 12:30 PM   #101
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Asks a host who uses 2-pls let me rip you off-checkout? STFU n00b
Ouch you got me there. How about explaining what 2Checkout has done to you? It's a credit card processor for gods sake. Did they not approve your chargeback? No wonder.
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:30 PM   #102
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:33 PM   #103
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Impossible, because no host hosts 50% of your affiliates. I'd like to bet on that.
You should stick to dutch.
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:34 PM   #104
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Ouch you got me there. How about explaining what 2Checkout has done to you? It's a credit card processor for gods sake. Did they not approve your chargeback? No wonder.
Lol youre new in this biz right? Well welcome. Sit back and relax. And read posts bout 2checkout and how they handle support and all. Youre in a for a treat.
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:36 PM   #105
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I am actually not a native Dutchman, so I'll stick to English, thank you.
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Right. Mr 30 bucks whats an A record
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No I have used 2CO since 2003. Next..
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I am actually not a native Dutchman, so I'll stick to English, thank you.
No youre not. Your russian or so. Polish. Whatever. Stick to your 10 bucks template.

And Oxeo isnt gonna benefit from this. Ive already got 5 ppl emailing tell me theyd rather give their left nut then this shit and friendly redirected to another host.
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:41 PM   #109
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You just gotta love ppl who cant read.

THEY KEPT THE A RECORDS SETTINGS IN THEIR NAMESERVERS AFTER THEY TOOK THE SERVER DOWN.
uhm sorry but i am only quoting people here.. PlayaPlaya (mike?) wrote that they did the "mistake" and did not shutodwn the server+DNS to allow you a seamless move..

..and you said your traffic went to some "Apache page instead of the galleries".. if the server was down - which apache???
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No I have used 2CO since 2003. Next..
Well Im happy now. Good to hear they treated you like that. Shame they treat customers like shit.

So do you also terminate dedicated box access 4 days before the servers taken down even if clients paid in full upfront?
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:41 PM   #111
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Right. Mr 30 bucks whats an A record
keep making your A records shit up.

several host representatives have already pointed out that you're a moron.
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:43 PM   #113
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uhm sorry but i am only quoting people here.. PlayaPlaya (mike?) wrote that they did the "mistake" and did not shutodwn the server+DNS to allow you a seamless move..

..and you said your traffic went to some "Apache page instead of the galleries".. if the server was down - which apache???
Youre mikes fuckbuddy or what? How the hell would I know where it went. I cant even get the bloody FHG anymore. All I know is this is costing us a lot. And yes its weird. They said it would go down Aug 28th. So maybe he kept it up. I dont care. As long as he doesnt pull any funny shit like keeping that DNS set.

Oxeo Mike doesnt give shit.
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:44 PM   #114
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they resolved the issue WITHIN 1 MINUTE after you contacted them??? is this some kind of weird reverse psychology of you promoting oxeo..

i have two boxes with them - 1 minute response time at 5am must have been their new record

that drama is a joke - next please
I was thinking that myself
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keep making your A records shit up.

several host representatives have already pointed out that you're a moron.
Lol yeah right. Youre Mr so smooth here right.
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Old 08-30-2005, 12:44 PM   #116
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Well Im happy now. Good to hear they treated you like that. Shame they treat customers like shit.

So do you also terminate dedicated box access 4 days before the servers taken down even if clients paid in full upfront?
If you tell me to, yes.
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If you tell me to, yes.
Lol ok so where did you read Ive asked Mike to terminate access 4 days before the server went down? Read.
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mikes a straight up dude, he wouldn't have done this shit on purpose

bank on it
Oh Im sure he didnt.

He just also doesnt care about the mistakes he made or his collegues. So where are we now? Its cool to make mistakes and let other ppl pay the bill? Thats a whole new approach to me.
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Lol ok so where did you read Ive asked Mike to terminate access 4 days before the server went down? Read.
Why didn't you email them to ask them to restore it?

Maybe I just don't get it.
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Why didn't you email them to ask them to restore it?

Maybe I just don't get it.
I mailed Ive ICQd.

They couldnt they wouldnt and even after I told Mike he wasnt gonna do it.
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I was thinking that myself
So loosing half the traffic over a day is drama?

Well then pls redirect 50% of your galleries to dutchteencash
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its your domain so you can change the nameservers (that contain the a record)
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its your domain so you can change the nameservers (that contain the a record)
nope

1. oxeo doesnt allow ppl to change nameservers, records or whatever
2. mike shut off admin access to our server 4 days too early
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Youre mikes fuckbuddy or what? How the hell would I know where it went. I cant even get the bloody FHG anymore. All I know is this is costing us a lot. And yes its weird. They said it would go down Aug 28th. So maybe he kept it up. I dont care. As long as he doesnt pull any funny shit like keeping that DNS set.

Oxeo Mike doesnt give shit.
if you keep talking about the "A record" you should better know where the traffic goes to .. or there might be a different problem here..

IF they KEPT the server up and KEPT the DNS as he says.. no A or B or C record can cause these problems for your website.. it would be the oposit.. think about that again before you keep quoting me..

since as i said some requests will go to one box - some to the other - no traffic goes to some secret 3rd box serving "apache pages"... ever heard of DNS based load balancing? its nothing more then creating more then 1 "A record" for your domain.. take a guess how i handle the traffic on few of my movie gallery domains between two boxes.. and no it does not matter where these boxes are located..
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Dont you realize everything you post you look dumber?

Im sure youre thinking now wtf no change to nameservers? And I can just login to godaddy and change them. Yes DJ you can. I didnt say you couldnt. But Oxeo doesnt allow ppl to set the A MX and whatever records in THEIR nameserver.
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if you keep talking about the "A record" you should better know where the traffic goes to .. or there might be a different problem here..

IF they KEPT the server up and KEPT the DNS as he says.. no A or B or C record can cause these problems for your website.. it would be the oposit.. think about that again before you keep quoting me..

since as i said some requests will go to one box - some to the other - no traffic goes to some secret 3rd box serving "apache pages"... ever heard of DNS based load balancing? its nothing more then creating more then 1 "A record" for your domain.. take a guess how i handle the traffic on few of my movie gallery domains between two boxes.. and no it does not matter where these boxes are located..
No sorry Ive been in this biz for 15+ yrs and I have no idea what load balancing is. Damn youre clueless.

Ill say it one more time cause you didnt get it the first 25 times.

OXEO forgot to remove the DNS settings from their nameserver.

Move one of your moviegallery domains to another host and ask your current host to TAKE THE SERVER OFFLINE and still keep the DNS set. See what happens. Youre smart enough to realize that will mess up seriously.

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Ill say it one more time cause you didnt get it the first 25 times.

OXEO forgot to remove the DNS settings from their nameserver.
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i think he is trolling us.

no one can be this stupid
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This A record stuff isn't correct. If you have changed your nameservers with your registrar and and the changes haven't propogated yet, and Oxeo had removed the A records, your surfers would just be unable to find the domain at all, instead of getting "Apache pages" or connection refused messages.

The only way it would work the way you want is if Oxeo's DNS servers have gotten your updated nameservers from your registrar faster than 50% of the internet, and were returning the correct entries to anyone incorrectly accessing their servers. However, according to the DNS RFC, a DNS provider isn't required to return results for domains it does not have authority over, meaning they could just as easily not respond at all if the request is for a domain they don't control (ie. yours, because they removed it).

To avoid any of this, the registrar should have been updated with the new servers 3-5 days before the old server was shutdown.
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you know theres a bunch of big time people on this board with very low post counts... does that make everything they say meaningless?

personally i dont pay attention to anyone OVER a certain post count, cause they are the ones generally talking shit, just to hear themselves speak.


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Its simple as 123. If you set A records in more then 1 server the nameservers will get confused. Its the ultimate way besides DOS to fuck a site over.
This is a ridiculous statement. The only servers that have authority over your DNS are the ones you nominate. If you don't plan for the time it can take for the changes to be reflected across every caching nameserver on the net, this has nothing to do with whatever your previous DNS servers were.
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This is a ridiculous statement. The only servers that have authority over your DNS are the ones you nominate. If you don't plan for the time it can take for the changes to be reflected across every caching nameserver on the net, this has nothing to do with whatever your previous DNS servers were.
so if this was all nonsense then why are there so many ppl emailing us they cant reach the galleries server? and : it DID work for 2 days.
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at least gfy sees the new server and the tld just resolved here Glad those Oxeo fuckers removed the records

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Move one of your moviegallery domains to another host and ask your current host to TAKE THE SERVER OFFLINE and still keep the DNS set. See what happens. Youre smart enough to realize that will mess up seriously.
have you read any of my posts which you quoted.. first page says the server was NOT shutdown + DNS was kept (quoting Playaplaya).. this is NOT a problem like you keep saying

if i move to a new host and they keep the DNS - no downtime will show up UNTIL they shutdown my server .. not even some weird apache page will show up.. you will NOT notice the move except you use some database backend etc.. if they DID shutdown the whole server (admin access 4 days before cancelation?) i think you would have noticed "some other problems" already last week.. no? but if they kept your server up after the cancelation (not sure why they would do that) they did actually help you with the move..

i went through a few annoying server moves (anyone remember likewhoa..) in the past... if the server was up + dns was up = no problem
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punked: they kept the server up till the 28th. The admin panel access was deleted so we couldnt do shit. They didnt keep the server up after the 28th. They DID keep the nameserver up.

So: the oxeo server (and our site) was down, the nameserver at oxeo was up.
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What date did you change your nameserver information with your registrar?
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i dont like Oxeo Mike's fucking attitude... i used to think oxeo was good, now i will make a point to let everyone know how their owner thinks.... lol blackmail he says... haha what a wanker!
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i dont like Oxeo Mike's fucking attitude... i used to think oxeo was good, now i will make a point to let everyone know how their owner thinks.... lol blackmail he says... haha what a wanker!
yeah blackmail what a moron

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so if this was all nonsense then why are there so many ppl emailing us they cant reach the galleries server?
because you fucked up, thats why.
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I know nothing about A records, but seriously if the way you explained it is right.

Registrar points DNS to a server, DNS gives IP to site, IP directs to site.

how exactly would the WWW even KNOW some other server has "A records" for your domain name if the DNS all around the world updated according to the setting at your registrar?

You're telling me I could set a DNS with some A Records for duchteengalleries.com so that it shows ******* and half your traffic would see *******? it would be way too easy to put competitors out of business or steal traffic.

exactly there are alot of idiots that dont know shit about dns in this thread.
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:04 PM   #144
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You just gotta love ppl who cant read.

THEY KEPT THE A RECORDS SETTINGS IN THEIR NAMESERVERS AFTER THEY TOOK THE SERVER DOWN.
we can read and if you had changed your dns to your new host and it updated it would not be an issue at all not thier fault that you fucked up.
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:05 PM   #145
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because you fucked up, thats why.
Anybody told you yet ? You're annoying.
If you don't agree.. fine. You've made your point.
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:09 PM   #146
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punked: they kept the server up till the 28th. The admin panel access was deleted so we couldnt do shit. They didnt keep the server up after the 28th. They DID keep the nameserver up.

So: the oxeo server (and our site) was down, the nameserver at oxeo was up.
.. the domain from your screenshot shows:

Record last updated 08-27-2005 06:07:49

it can easily take 48 hours for the DNS to update as you know .. some ISPs take even longer.. you tried to move your high traffic website on a sunday within a few hours?

you should have posted that info before..
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.. the domain from your screenshot shows:

Record last updated 08-27-2005 06:07:49
Aw shit, no wonder
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:33 PM   #148
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Interesting thread considering I was going to add them into my hosting lineup
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Old 08-30-2005, 02:57 PM   #149
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usually when I change hosts I wait about a week to say anything to them about canceling.
I agree 100%. Let the new hosting move all your old files over, install scripts etc and wait for the DNS to update all over the world to avoid this problem
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