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woj · 08-30-2005, 11:29 AM

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TDF · 08-30-2005, 11:30 AM

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Nysus · 08-30-2005, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by thewebgarage

if you changed the name server it would seem that its the fault of all the isp's across the world who didnt update their dns.

usually when I change hosts I wait about a week to say anything to them about canceling.

No, the idea is that it is seamless because both servers are still online; Oxeo took the server offline 4 days before it was requested to be taken offline. Get it?

Matt

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by a1ka1ine

annoying that they kept the a records in their hosts file but surely you just change the nameservers via directnic to your new host and problem solved?

either way fucked up they cancelled your admin

yes you do. But if they keep the A records and you USED to host there, then thats the perfect way to fuck a client over. And they did.

And cancelling the admin is even worse yes.

But Mike doesnt care. We paid upfront. And on the spot. He has his money.

DarkJedi · 08-30-2005, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

Ok for everyone who doesnt know:

If you set DNS at directnic or whereever, youre pointing it to the server. That server has to KNOW as well that the domain is there and point it within the server to the right site.

A-records do that. You add them together with the IP n all to the DNS settings. Most ppl dont know cause they have a managed box so the host will do that.

So. What happens if you add A-records and the site is not there but hosted somewhere else? Half the hits approx get confused. One box says me me the sites here and it is and one other says me me (oxeo) and the site ISNT there.

In 1 sentence : ppl who type your domain will get a not here page.

Traffic lost, sales lost, revenue lost.

huh ? what kind of BS is that ?

1. you ask the new host to set up your domain
2. you login into your registrar and change the DNS for a new host.

Nysus · 08-30-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PlayaPlaya

Bob,

I really do not want to get into a piss match with you. I really dont think it was right for you to try to blackmail me to pay you after you've changed to another company. As i've said, big or small, i do alot for all customers given the opportunity.

You can flame us if you wish to do so, but you cannot deny the fact that the service we provided you with was top notch. Yes i was going to show you around NY, and if you call me when you're here, I'll still do that. I will not hold grudges as I think you're talking out of frustration.

I'm sorry that you have already made up your mind about your future business dealings with us. I'm positive that the companies you're going to do business with will treat you great and you will be happy with them.

I really do have some things to take care of and must leave the office for a bit. If there is anything I can help you with, do not hesitate to contact me.

He's not saying you don't provide top-notch service to clients; just not when they're leaving.. which they were still a client prior to and should be given the same respect and support they have been given all along - at least that's what I would consider good business.

I don't think he threatened you either for money, I think he was mentioning there are monetary damages on his part due to your actions / your company's actions of taking his server down prior to the stated date.

I might not know all details, so whatever I say is based off of whatever I have read in this thread.

Matt

Punk`d · 08-30-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

No, the idea is that it is seamless because both servers are still online; Oxeo took the server offline 4 days before it was requested to be taken offline. Get it?

Matt

..the whole thread is about that the sever has NOT been taken offline to early.. but to late. Get it?

DarkJedi · 08-30-2005, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

No, the idea is that it is seamless because both servers are still online; Oxeo took the server offline 4 days before it was requested to be taken offline. Get it?

Matt

well no shit, you first move the site, then change the DNS, then when everything works you cancel the old hosting.

(it takes 2 days max for the new DNS to kick in across the world)

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

huh ? what kind of BS is that ?

1. you ask the new host to set up your domain
2. you login into your registrar and change the DNS for a new host.

thats no BS. thats what happens if you keep A records in 2 servers and update the DNS. Things will get fucked up.

But hey, taking the admin away from the box was also my favorite move.

Nysus · 08-30-2005, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

huh ? what kind of BS is that ?

1. you ask the new host to set up your domain
2. you login into your registrar and change the DNS for a new host.

Actually, you're wrong with this one DarkJedi.. The host does have settings they need to change / remove.

Matt

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Punk`d

..the whole thread is about that the sever has NOT been taken offline to early.. but to late. Get it?

well the server was gone. the dns records were still there yes.

And - above all - mike removed the server admin access 4 days before he took the server down. Thats just fucked up.

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

Actually, you're wrong with this one DarkJedi.. The host does have settings they need to change / remove.

Matt

If DJ has to ask what an A record is, then Im sure he doesnt understand the problem.

DarkJedi · 08-30-2005, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

Actually, you're wrong with this one DarkJedi.. The host does have settings they need to change / remove.

Matt

explain.

Theo · 08-30-2005, 11:36 AM

I have 3 domains that dns took a whole week to update and sites to become visible again. Not sure how that happened

Nysus · 08-30-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

well no shit, you first move the site, then change the DNS, then when everything works you cancel the old hosting.

(it takes 2 days max for the new DNS to kick in across the world)

Exactly! You just proved my point... the problem is, the host cancelled the account 4 days prior to the requested date / the date of cancellation, meaning it is/was technically their fault.

Simple apology can usually help, but most companies don't want to give in that they made a mistake.

Matt

DarkJedi · 08-30-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

well the server was gone. the dns records were still there yes.

he should have switched the DNS first, then canceled old host.

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

Exactly! You just proved my point... the problem is, the host cancelled the account 4 days prior to the requested date / the date of cancellation, meaning it is/was technically their fault.

Simple apology can usually help, but most companies don't want to give in that they made a mistake.

Matt

True.

When we cancel an account of a client before it was meant to be. And he paid in full, we compensate. Money or whatever.

Oxeo doesnt give shit.

Nysus · 08-30-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

explain.

Exactly what thinkx said - "thats no BS. thats what happens if you keep A records in 2 servers and update the DNS. Things will get fucked up."

Things will get "fucked up" if A records aren't changed.

Matt

Juicy D. Links · 08-30-2005, 11:40 AM

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DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

Exactly what thinkx said - "thats no BS. thats what happens if you keep A records in 2 servers and update the DNS. Things will get fucked up."

Things will get "fucked up" if A records aren't changed.

Matt

DJ doesnt understand. I dont know how else to explain this. I didnt know till some 4 yrs ago it happened for the first time. Old host kept DNS records and we received mail of ppl complaining the site wasnt there forever.

Its simple as 123. If you set A records in more then 1 server the nameservers will get confused. Its the ultimate way besides DOS to fuck a site over.

DarkJedi · 08-30-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

Exactly what thinkx said - "thats no BS. thats what happens if you keep A records in 2 servers and update the DNS. Things will get fucked up."

Things will get "fucked up" if A records aren't changed.

Matt

what the hell do "A records" have to do with a new host ?

You take you new hosts DNS, go to you registrar and point your domains to these new DNS.

Nysus · 08-30-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

he should have switched the DNS first, then canceled old host.

Dude, you don't think it was better for him to let the host know prior to him cancelling? As opposed to the day of?

Plus, you'd need to cancel before the next billing date, but they cancelled 4 days before they should have... 4 days is plenty of time to switch DNS over, but they didn't allow that because they messed up.

Matt

Juicy D. Links · 08-30-2005, 11:43 AM

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~Ray · 08-30-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

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Nysus · 08-30-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

what the hell do "A records" have to do with a new host ?

You take you new hosts DNS, go to you registrar and point your domains to these new DNS.

Read up on technical aspects of hosting.. I really don't have time to explain, and also likely not the best person to explain, otherwise I would, sorry.

Matt

Alprazolam · 08-30-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

what the hell do "A records" have to do with a new host ?

You take you new hosts DNS, go to you registrar and point your domains to these new DNS.

Hello Dark Jedi you faggot

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

I have 3 domains that dns took a whole week to update and sites to become visible again. Not sure how that happened

Some countries and some ISPs are slow. Thank god someone from Germany told me this morning the dutchteengalleries gave a Apache entry page. Germany is always fast in updating. But checking the stats tells me that were at least 2 mln hits behind today and yday some 1 mln. Thats lost.

We all make mistakes. If you gotta cough up then you gotta cough up.

DarkJedi · 08-30-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

Read up on technical aspects of hosting.. I really don't have time to explain, and also likely not the best person to explain, otherwise I would, sorry.

Matt

I know the technical aspects of moving from one host to another. I've done it many times and never had any downtime (because it was done correctly)

sounds like thinkx doesn't know wtf he is doing.
he should get a 9-5 job at walmart.

DarkJedi · 08-30-2005, 11:48 AM

dig this: dude is blaming old host because he couldn't move to a new one.

how fucked is that ?

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 11:48 AM

Nice uh. Thank you Mike at Oxeo. Hope your sushi tastes nice. Cause we paid for it.

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

I know the technical aspects of moving from one host to another. I've done it many times and never had any downtime (because it was done correctly)

sounds like thinkx doesn't know wtf he is doing.
he should get a 9-5 job at walmart.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ok you just made my day. You know the tech aspects and YET had to ASK what A records are? Damn youre SOOOOOOOO OWNED.

chemicaleyes · 08-30-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

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DarkJedi · 08-30-2005, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ok you just made my day. You know the tech aspects and YET had to ASK what A records are? Damn youre SOOOOOOOO OWNED.

yeah, you're a real winner !
you know what 'A records' are, but couldn't move your shit to a new host.

yet i don't concern myself with trivial bullshit and have never had a problem moving sites.

YUO = MORAN.

DarkJedi · 08-30-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

SOOOOOOOO OWNED.

judging from that pic, yes you are

http://www.dutchteencash.com/post/oxeo.jpg

xlogger · 08-30-2005, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

1. We dont need help cause weve got another host who treats us like a valuable client

Who is the new host btw dude?

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

judging from that pic, yes you are

http://www.dutchteencash.com/post/oxeo.jpg

Indeed. Thanks to Oxeo fucking up. And pls come back when youve understood DNS settings.

keyDet79 · 08-30-2005, 11:56 AM

thinkx, why did you post this, and then do so much trouble to keep replying (seriously)?

DarkJedi · 08-30-2005, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

Indeed. Thanks to Oxeo fucking up. And pls come back when youve understood DNS settings.

if you can't move from one host to another, you're an idiot.

oxeo doesn't have anything to do with it.

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by xlogger

Who is the new host btw dude?

I guess you checked. Well. Hivelocity. Yes the guys I said wtf all cogent.

Know why? Cause we were bound to go for Hostive. Till I talked to a guy whos pretty close to us. He ordered one there. Took 17 days to get the server up. That did it.

So I looked. And I must admit, Hivelocity is cool. Kevin is our rep there and hes not bad at all. So far no funky stuff cause its cogent and its doing 15mbit now for 2 days and just fine. Ill keep you updated. In other words: sorry for the whole cogent and hi is shit thing.

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

if you can't move from one host to another, you're an idiot.

oxeo doesn't have anything to do with it.

Cool. Post a domain and ill show you why Im pissed. Give it 24 hrs and youll see half the world emailing your sites down. Then youll understand Oxeo had EVERYthing to do with it.

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by keyDet79

thinkx, why did you post this, and then do so much trouble to keep replying (seriously)?

Asks a host who uses 2-pls let me rip you off-checkout? STFU n00b

Jimbo · 08-30-2005, 12:02 PM

I know nothing about A records, but seriously if the way you explained it is right.

Registrar points DNS to a server, DNS gives IP to site, IP directs to site.

how exactly would the WWW even KNOW some other server has "A records" for your domain name if the DNS all around the world updated according to the setting at your registrar?

You're telling me I could set a DNS with some A Records for duchteengalleries.com so that it shows ******* and half your traffic would see *******? it would be way too easy to put competitors out of business or steal traffic.

DarkJedi · 08-30-2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

Cool. Post a domain and ill show you why Im pissed. Give it 24 hrs and youll see half the world emailing your sites down. Then youll understand Oxeo had EVERYthing to do with it.

Sorry, I don't understand what you're talking about. Looks like English, it but doesn't make sense.

You're saying you can somehow screw up anyones domain in 24 hours ?
here, try this one www.yahoo.com

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Sorry, I don't understand what you're talking about. Looks like English, it but doesn't make sense.

You're saying you can somehow screw up anyones domain in 24 hours ?
here, try this one www.yahoo.com

smartass. that ONLY works if the domain was already at the old host. Otherwise anyone could hijack a site.

Oxeo knew this. And yet they made a mistake. But they dont care.

keyDet79 · 08-30-2005, 12:14 PM

Nysus, you don't have the time to explain what thinkx's problem is? Ok no problem, I'm not such a busy man so I'll do it and lets count how long it takes me.

If you do not remove the DNS entries of the domain at the *dedicated DNS server* of a host, all servers at that host will resolve the domain to the IP *at that host / on their network*. Why? Because the DNS servers are local.

20 Seconds.

Yes, I guess oxeo uses one dedicated server to handle DNS of all their customers/servers. Their provider ISPrime does the same (our customers have had problems with them before), and a lot of hosts offer this service, instead of setting up your server to do its own DNS. In practice it would be impossible for thinkx to lose "50% of the traffic". No host hosts 50% of the adult industry. Prove me wrong please. Oh I forgot you can't.

I know thinkx is your friend, but it's pretty obvious you don't know what you're talking about.

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by keyDet79

In practice it would be impossible for thinkx to lose "50% of the traffic".

We lost over 50% of our gallery traffic today because of this cockup. How do you think affiliates appreciate it when they hotlink FHG on their free sites and get a range of 404s in their scripts tomorrow. Mail is gonna be fun tomorrow.

As of now dutchteengalleries.com here still resolves to nothing. And itll take at least 24 hrs to get that solved.

Punk`d · 08-30-2005, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

well the server was gone. the dns records were still there yes..

... not what page one says

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Originally Posted by PlayaPlaya

Your server was cancelled on sunday the 28th, we didn't take your server offline and kept your DNS records up so that you can have a smooth transition in case of moving last minute.

..if the server was still online (read above).. and they just kept the dns records until you requested the removal (as well read above) .. please explain me how that can cause ANY problems with a site move.. i would love to hear that.

..or aren't these the logical steps to avoid almost ANY downtime since some traffic will go to your old server (which they did not shutdown) and new requests will go to the new box..?

keyDet79 · 08-30-2005, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

We lost over 50% of our gallery traffic today because of this cockup. How do you think affiliates appreciate it when they hotlink FHG on their free sites and get a range of 404s in their scripts tomorrow. Mail is gonna be fun tomorrow.

As of now dutchteengalleries.com here still resolves to nothing. And itll take at least 24 hrs to get that solved.

Impossible, because no host hosts 50% of your affiliates. I'd like to bet on that.

Yes, they may have understood your cancellation request as 'Terminate my account please, I've moved'. But then again, they kept your DNS so you would not have downtime.

With us, even if you tell me to cancel your account "right now", I will still mail you back and ask for a confirmation, or it will be done at your business cycle.

Anway all you're doing now is bringing in more business for oxeo. And it's definately not in my benefit to defent them. It's just that you sound like an idiot.

DarkJedi · 08-30-2005, 12:23 PM

thinkx doesn't have clue.

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Punk`d

... not what page one says

..if the server was still online (read above).. and they just kept the dns records until you requested the removal (as well read above) .. please explain me how that can cause ANY problems with a site move.. i would love to hear that.

..or aren't these the logical steps to avoid almost ANY downtime since some traffic will go to your old server (which they did not shutdown) and new requests will go to the new box..?

You just gotta love ppl who cant read.

THEY KEPT THE A RECORDS SETTINGS IN THEIR NAMESERVERS AFTER THEY TOOK THE SERVER DOWN.

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keyDet79 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,109	Nysus, you don't have the time to explain what thinkx's problem is? Ok no problem, I'm not such a busy man so I'll do it and lets count how long it takes me. If you do not remove the DNS entries of the domain at the dedicated DNS server of a host, all servers at that host will resolve the domain to the IP at that host / on their network. Why? Because the DNS servers are local. 20 Seconds. Yes, I guess oxeo uses one dedicated server to handle DNS of all their customers/servers. Their provider ISPrime does the same (our customers have had problems with them before), and a lot of hosts offer this service, instead of setting up your server to do its own DNS. In practice it would be impossible for thinkx to lose "50% of the traffic". No host hosts 50% of the adult industry. Prove me wrong please. Oh I forgot you can't. I know thinkx is your friend, but it's pretty obvious you don't know what you're talking about. __________________ Multihomed quality BW for less ICQ 51034232 - MSN [email protected] - Email keydet(at)vibehosting.com

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