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Old 08-27-2005, 03:40 PM   #1
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Mainstream revenue generation: Forums vs. Blogs vs. Article Sites vs. Link Lists

Given the continuing explosion of mainstream ad revenue and affiliate pay per sale opportunities, there's many ways to capitalize on these opportunities. Here's a quick review of the differing mainstream models:

:: Forums ::

Good news: Gets the attention of the particular community that is interested in a particular category of content/interest. The users and their opinions/contributions are themselves the content. Runs itself once it reaches a critical mass. PPC can be triggered using particular threads.

Bad news: No ready made forum script that is PPC-centric. Most are banner-centric (ie., phpadsnew), if that. Getting a critical mass means a large repository of existing posts by post seeders and must be on-topic, entertaining or informative enough for people to find your forum compelling. Initial traffic is nonexistent so you have to find roughly similar traffic/interest pools.

Solution: Webmasterlabor.com provides paid posters that are trained to focus on your topics and simulate real online discussions that add value to your content offerings. We also provide mini-articles that can be launching areas for promotions. Finally, we also provide mainstream traffic that can be filtered by your forum to a % that would bookmark (once there's enough topics and posts/replies)

:: Blogs ::

Good news: There's a lot of interest in this form of web communication recently although its been around awhile and has evolved quite a bit. Many search engines find it easy to crawl and give it some priority (although the latter can be overly exaggerated and overly relied upon). It's greatest asset though is RSS and it's update-friendly/episodic nature. It also has tools for quick syndication, community building.

Bad news: Who's got time for entries and comments? Blog traffic depends on your keywords and who links to you or syndicates you. Adding relevant links and not just garbage link exchanges take time.

Solution: Webmasterlabor.com provides custom research and writing services for blog entries at very affordable prices. We also provide trained and experienced writers on a recurring basis that focus specifically on your topics and sub-topics. Moreover, we take care of your pings, blog submissions, linkbacks, comments, and we also provide pre-filtered pre-bookmarked mainstream traffic.


:: Article Sites ::

Good news: These sites focus on a limited range of topics but provide deep information. These ARE the types of pages that surfers are looking for since most are looking for information BEFORE they buy. These are great for "prepping" the consumer for the buy opportunity. Moreover, if structured correctly these pages can be bookmarked resources that interested consumers can keep for themselves or share with fellow interested consumers. The focus of article sites is to provide timely information in a non-intimidating way.

Bad news: Generating original content usually costs a lot. Research can be problematic. Cross-referencing and verifying information can be a headache. Moreover, you have to get your material edited.

Solution: Webmasterlabor.com provides content research and writing services at affordable prices. We also provide BULK packages and monthly recurring text content services. Edits are provided as a FREE supplemental service.


:: Link Lists ::

Good news: Some search engines and many consumers favor websites that provide a ready pool of assembled links that focus on certain topics. Usually these are arranged in terms of interests and categories. These sites provide a centralized location for consumers and researchers looking for helpful information on the Internet unencumbered by off topic results or spam pages.

Bad news: Researching relevant and actually helpful sites take time. Also, plain links with no descriptions are less helpful than more thoroughly researched and described links. Categorization may prove labor intensive, too.

Solution: Webmasterlabor.Com provides the trained staff to search for and study relevant online resources. We can also provide mini-commentaries or full articles based on these resources. We then input or pass these links and descriptions/ratings/articles on to you for input.

The Internet is filled with opportunities--Behind every communication forum is a revenue opportunity!

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actually, what works quite nicely for forums is to add them to free sites with existing traffic. They are easy and free to setup as well. Your ads will get tons of exposure that way, too.
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Gret info, with just a touch of spam added to make a sale. Good work. Really!!! PLease thread spammers, take a lesson. This is the way to do it.
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actually, what works quite nicely for forums is to add them to free sites with existing traffic. They are easy and free to setup as well. Your ads will get tons of exposure that way, too.
Tue. There's quite a few free site directories. Also, submit them to forum lists.
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awsome stuff gene

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I need you gene for a few mainstream sites. I need to get the traffic rolling on them. I'll hit you up on ICQ later tonight or tomorrow
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sounds like a plan, bro.
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I like the way you broke it down 1 by 1, why dont you guys come up with a full article report on each?
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I like the way you broke it down 1 by 1, why dont you guys come up with a full article report on each?

Hmmmm.... good idea.
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What steps do you take to ensure that the content provided is 100% original and not ripped-off?

Right now I am investigating a retailer website which is using directly copied content from multiple sites including one of my own. It appears that the owner of this site hired an outside SEO company to do the work.
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3 step duplicate content check. Everything is freshly researched and written. As much as possible, we prefer to work with PRIMARY SOURCES instead of secondary ones.

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What steps do you take to ensure that the content provided is 100% original and not ripped-off?

Right now I am investigating a retailer website which is using directly copied content from multiple sites including one of my own. It appears that the owner of this site hired an outside SEO company to do the work.
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Thanks! I'll be posting more mini and full webmaster articles soon.
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That's the best kind. Thanks, man!
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It also helps if the content you want viralized has a VERY WIDE appeal.
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:: Forums ::
Bad news: No ready made forum script that is PPC-centric. Most are banner-centric (ie., phpadsnew), if that. Getting a critical mass means a large repository of existing posts by post seeders and must be on-topic, entertaining or informative enough for people to find your forum compelling. Initial traffic is nonexistent so you have to find roughly similar traffic/interest pools.

There are now several forums based ppc models available for vbulletin if u know where to look

:: Blogs ::

Bad news: Who's got time for entries and comments? Blog traffic depends on your keywords and who links to you or syndicates you. Adding relevant links and not just garbage link exchanges take time.

If you dont have time to update with entries and reply to comments or take them on board why the hell have you got a blog - the point to a blog much like a diary is thats its updated frequently - otherwise dont bother

:: Article Sites ::

Bad news: Generating original content usually costs a lot. Research can be problematic. Cross-referencing and verifying information can be a headache. Moreover, you have to get your material edited.

There are so many articles out there - you can use them all - gain the SE traffic for your own site and still link to the oringinators site - no need to payout for Labor when theres so many free articles out there already to cover any topic in plain english

:: Link Lists ::

Bad news: Researching relevant and actually helpful sites take time. Also, plain links with no descriptions are less helpful than more thoroughly researched and described links. Categorization may prove labor intensive, too.

Again if you dont know your niche already why get into it - theres loads of places to find and exchange targetted links in your own niche if you just fidn the forum that the niche is based on - i know a forum for every niche with webmasters to match it



Ive built several sites from scratch - blog , forum , link list and articles based and mixed them altogether aswell and the results with some daily work have been impressive

If you dont have time to run your own damn sites you shouldnt be a webmaster
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Points noted, basadmin. There's some truth to what you said but not everyone's situation is the same. While some are content to do their own work, quite a few are willing to reinvest their earnings into maximizing their current activities so they can explore other opportunities. While others want to handle all their businesses directly others believe in putting their money to work by sending some portions of operations to outside providers. Many webmasters reach a point where they focus on strategy as oppposed to daily minutiae.

There are many people want fresh material and we provide it. We also provide the labor to extend their capacity and reach. Instead of doing all the work themselves, webmasters can leave the 'grunt' work to us and focus on what counts--formulating strategies that will take their businesses to a higher level. We offer mainstream webmasters tools they can use to compete better.

There are many ways people conduct their businesses. We help those who want to extend their capacity by investing a little bit into their operations. It might work for others and it might not work for some. It all depends on your situation.
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