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Old 02-14-2002, 02:35 PM   #101
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They are all middle maning people too, only diffrence is they are big corporations. In this buisness anyone can start to make some serious cash as long as they are creative. Hey Im all for it dont get me wrong with out the middle man money would almost be useless and who would want a more peacefull sociaty. In your message you re-inforced my previous point ALL ADULT WEBMASTERS ARE CROOKS. Who has never said danm this car is too much for what its worth "what a bunch of crooks"


Amp your thoughts on this? I know you are dying to reply and bash anything that is said. By somebody who isnt all in your ass and brown to there neck
How did you get "ALL WEBMASTERS ARE CROOKS" from my post?

I don't think Stop and Shop is ripping me off. I don't think Angelino's is ripping me off even though I pay $10 or $15 for a dinner who's combined ingredients cost $2.50 probably.

Being the middleman doesn't mean you're ripping anyone off. Most of the time it's the only practical way of doing business in the world. Can you imagine the chaos if instead of going to a car dealership to buy a car, you had to drag your ass to Ohio (or wherever their manufacturing plants are)?

The reason there are middlemen is because it's impractical for everyone to buy directly from the producer of a good. Doesn't mean anyone's getting ripped off.
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Old 02-14-2002, 02:37 PM   #102
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In your message you re-inforced my previous point ALL ADULT WEBMASTERS ARE CROOKS. Who has never said danm this car is too much for what its worth "what a bunch of crooks"
Erm, I don't know how you run YOUR sites, but I've never marked up the price of the sponsor's membership fees. Ever. If the sponsor want's $24.95 for a month, that's what my surfers pay. Tell me again how exactly I'm cheating anyone? You've really got me curious now.
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Old 02-14-2002, 02:40 PM   #103
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Gas station owners.
Grocery store owners
sporting goods owners
hardware store owners
shop owners of any sort
Yup they are all theives UNLESS they sell something they created.
Danm man this entire sociaty is based on theivery of the week minded people. If you do not see it you are obviously going to defend yourself. but hey its not your fault your so dumb.


Amp You are correct I dont know you very well and I would like to retract my statement about you. I am new here and Just said what I thought from the way that you only cut down posts from people who are new here. I was wrong peace out man.
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Old 02-14-2002, 02:44 PM   #105
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Gas station owners.
Grocery store owners
sporting goods owners
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Yup they are all theives UNLESS they sell something they created.
Danm man this entire sociaty is based on theivery of the week minded people. If you do not see it you are obviously going to defend yourself. but hey its not your fault your so dumb.


It must take you a long time to do your grocery shopping and not get robbed then...going to each and every manufacturing plant in the world to buy what you need has got to be expensive. Far more expensive than the $100 a week I shell out for my groceries. And it only takes me half an hour.

Sucks to be getting robbed I tell ya....
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This thread arises mixed feelings in me.
But as I like to say ignorance is a bliss.
I just don't understand what's to argue, so far amp's posts have not been out of line, and he speaks the truth. If you guys selling the sites have nothing to hide, no fraud no nothing, why do you get so upset?
Bizarre. But knock yourselves out, I enjoy lurking this thread.
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but hey its not your fault your so dumb.
And there it is, the last argument of the punk.

Tell me, am I dumb for travelling 6 blocks to buy a tank of gas or if I were to travel 1500 miles to the nearest refinery to buy that gas? What about buying a camera? Would I rather pay extra to drive 10 minutes over to Future Shop for it, or would I prefer to save a few hundred bucks and drive to Japan for it? You ever read "made in Taiwan" on anything you've bought? You ever been to Taiwan bro? Shpeaky Chinee? Am I possibly paying extra for the CONVENIENCE of getting it closer to home maybe?

But hey, if you'd rather travel the 1500 or 5000 miles, who am I to argue? Obviously you're correct in pointing out the stupidity of one of us. Uh, how long exactly were you in prison?
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Old 02-14-2002, 02:51 PM   #108
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said what I thought from the way that you only cut down posts from people who are new here. I was wrong peace out man.
not at all... I don't discriminate. If it's shady or fucked... I will jump on it... doesn't matter who it's from. The reason it's always new people is because the people that hang here regularly don't practice fucking people over. We're a fairly tight group. We don't always get along, but we don't fuck each other dry either. It's always some guy that thinks he's got the latest and greatest shit because he made some fantasy shit up and wants to skim a fast dollar off someone. I have no power or control over anything, except my own biz. I speak the truth about what I see. Sometimes people happen to agree with it. Sometimes not. Doesn't make them ass kissers or me a mean person. I'm not always right, that's 12clicks job. But I'm usually right. And if someone happens to not like that, I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep over it.
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Old 02-14-2002, 02:55 PM   #109
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hmm this thread has inspired me to sell something.

i guess i can sell one of my tgps. instead of telling u a bunch of lies, ill speak the truth.

1. i'll show u anything you want - stats, income, bandwidth, my penis.
2. you'll make me an offer you feel is fair to both of us.
3. i'll turn you down cuz ur a dumbass.
4. youll see the light & offer me 11 times the average monthly income for the last 2 months.
5. i'll accept and fly to wherever u are to buy u a beer & a hooker.

ok back to my l33t graphics making.
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Old 02-14-2002, 02:56 PM   #110
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These threads are great, I get to watch the dumbasses and cheating pieces of shit come out of the woodwork..

Keep coming out, little cock-a-roaches. Say hello to my little friend!

Sorry, just a bit of a scarface flashback there.

P.S. - All Middlemen are thieves? LOLOLOL. Dumbass.


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Do I smell a dvd on this thread after all?
Or is it my crotch?
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Do I smell a dvd on this thread after all?
Or is it my crotch?
it's your crotch.
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Is Altima calling every surfer that ever paid for porn an idiot?
Pretty much sounds like he is.

Damn, do I ever wanna trade links with this guy now.
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Guess it's time for another shower (just took mine before xmas).
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Old 02-14-2002, 03:23 PM   #116
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Damn

Whats going on here
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Whats going on here

Just turn away and pretend you never saw this thread. It does not exist...it's all in your mind.

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Well.... someone who can actually put some answers to it all.

So, is it true? Is he selling the rights to the content along with the site?
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Well.... someone who can actually put some answers to it all.

So, is it true? Is he selling the rights to the content along with the site?
I know I'm gunna love this!
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Well we provide hosting and content free of charge.

The content he can not sell no, but its included part of his site package. The content is not owned by him, it is licensed to Adultbouncer. We do not care if he wishes to sell his site, it's really up to him.

We usually purge sites if they dont generate anything for a long period of time. We give webmasters a chance to run their sites before deciding to purge it, since space usage can become quite high if we let sites idle for a long period that are using 20 gigs of space . If they continue to update their site then yes we will continue to provide content even though they don't generate any revenue.

But his site is generating revenue and we will keep supplying our content to whoever is running it.

We get about 100-150 new titles per month added to our current video list.

And hosting is also provided free of charge.

If you have any questions please let me know.
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That was a bit disappointing.
Cheers to you adultbouncer!
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Fair enough. I don't see a single thing in that reply that I would call unusual or even weird. Sounds like standard avs operating procedure to me.

but that's not what his ebay listing says..... which is the reason for all this.

So.... just to clarify, I'm not slamming AdultBouncer AVS in any way... never was... just bringing a few things to light that seem rather shady to me. Like this:
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Ownership of the total site including all rights to videos, images, and html pages.
and the fact that the whole ad is misleading.

If he wants to sell his avs entrance and html pages, that's his business... but let's not put a '72 Pinto up for sale as an '02 Mercedes.
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You are correct

Images, Videos, yadda are licensed to Adultbouncer 8)

Only problem is if someone beleive that the content was theres also then there would be a future problem when they wanted to use it on another site or something =)
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And so endeth another day in Scumbag Wars with the righteous warriors off to pat each other on the ass and talk about tales of mad bling bling yo!

TGP anyone? Going cheap....

Fuckers....nice work Amp
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Anyone here arguing with amp is wasting there time for one he is CORRECT and for two anyone can say anything they want.
As well anyone can sell anything they want for what ever amount they wish... If they are assholes and trick some fool into spending a shit load of money for a shity design I could make in 10 mins who cares thats the retard to buys it problem.
i like the way you think. Let's trade your sites with an island.
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ROFLMMFAO!!!

You'll know when I'm threatening you.
are you threatening him punk?



btw, did you get my valentine's card??
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are you threatening him punk?



btw, did you get my valentine's card??
I got it, but I haven't opened it yet.... the crew is still scanning it for viruses and homepage changing code...
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hehe... I almost crapped out a lung laughing when I read that post from him.. it was soooo close... he almost had it....
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It wont sell anyway. 18,000$... common. --I see your stats--

5000$ I'd buy it, 18,000$ is exagerate.
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ok.... I opened it..

dude, you know the man-love comes after midnight.... hehe....
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Damn guys...you are brutal.

And Mr. Amputate, before I go over there and make your nickname a reality...if you would just take 5 minutes out of your "busting ass all day" work day, you'd see that hosting is free and content is free as well and none of it is bull like you make it out to seem. Sheesh.

With 6000 posts next to your name, I assume you know how to research a topic more than 7.5 seconds before you post a ridiculous reply.

If there's anyone with any intellect that knows a good bargain when they see one, I'm always open to some good conversation.


And for all the people that are confused about that $5k figure, that's the opening bid. Notice that is says "Reserve not met" next to it. That means, (in very simple terms for those that speak without knowing what they're talking about,) that I don't have to sell anything if my reserve price isn't met. You should have a clue what I set my reserve price at when I say it should take less than 6 months to make your money back. C'mon guys...read...comprehend. I know you all have HS diplomas in here.


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Oh, a design firm :)

wow, someone has a high opinion of what THEY do....


This whole thread is actually pretty amusing...I'd been ignoring it because most "for sale" threads are pretty lame...

Amp and I've had a few differences of opinion a few times and yup, quite the smart ass, but on this thread, he's been right on the money...I feel for the poor sap who buys the site and decides he wants to move the site to a new host...then realizing he doesn't actually "own" the content...if someone is willing to pay for an AVS site, that's their choice, but some honesty should be put into the ad...will the buyer get any guidance with regards to the nature of the pics, vides, etc. (being licensed to adultbouncer and NOT the guy who buys the site)? or will they be hitting this or other webmaster boards wondering why they can't transfer their stuff?
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uhm... ok i think you guys are TOTALLY misunderstanding this guy and how adultbouncer works

What he is selling is the domain, his design and most importantly HIS MEMBERS! If his site has let's say 300 members.. that's about $3300 a month in rebills =0) x 6 month or so... with AdultBouncer's retention...

It's not the videos and crap that he's selling.. (although the ad was worded wrong with the licensing bit).
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Old 02-14-2002, 08:03 PM   #135
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It's not the videos and crap that he's selling.. (although the ad was worded wrong with the licensing bit).
should I break out my story of a corporation I worked for that "worded something wrong"...we lost the court case on that one ;))
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should I break out my story of a corporation I worked for that "worded something wrong"...we lost the court case on that one ;))
Indeed, do tell. I strongly sense there are more than a small crowd here that need to hear it.
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Old 02-14-2002, 08:35 PM   #137
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Hmm...I thought about paying the $5,000, then I changed my mind and decided to get my own Adult Bouncer account and use one of my own $15 domain names instead.
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Old 02-14-2002, 08:37 PM   #138
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Facial always "misspell" ...

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uhm... ok i think you guys are TOTALLY misunderstanding this guy and how adultbouncer works
well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm certain I didn't misunderstand a single thing.
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ok.... I opened it..

dude, you know the man-love comes after midnight.... hehe....
lol, another friend received a similar card from me today and returned me a love song.....I have to be careful with these things!!
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Okay Facial, you come up to me and bitch around because of a simple "misspell" comment? what the?

Alright lemme change that "misspell" for FRAUD.

you DO NOT own the content. you did NOT pay for it as you state. you are NOT SELLING prepaid hosting

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1: Ownership of the total site including all rights to videos, images, and html pages.
One more word and I contact ebay.
Wont change a thing anyways... don't expect 18,000$ for a AVS site thats only feeded with tgp galleries. oh... with stolen content?

Anyways, as every other time before, dont have the guts to reply something smart and go whine everywhere on how much I think I'm god and I'm a fucking bitch... you might make friends that way.

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Old 02-14-2002, 10:59 PM   #142
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Two of your galleries.

http://megasex.sexstorage.net/wetfaces/wetfaces.htm
http://megasex.sexstorage.net/faces/faces.htm

Show me licenses.

Selling stolen content? bright.
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Old 02-14-2002, 11:31 PM   #143
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I honestly can not believe what a huge hoopla this entire thing has created. All because I was wanting to advertise a site for sale. Truly amazing to say the least.

Anyway, after reading this incredible thread from top to bottom, I have appended my EBAY listing to reflect some excellent points that have arisen from this forum.

You can see the revised listing here.

I can see that 99% of the posts in here have either ridiculed or mocked me for placing a simple advertisement on GFY but that is OK. I understand that not everyone will see the same views as I or understand what I was trying to accomplish.

On a final note, I'd like to thank those members that have the balls to speak up when they see that some individuals in here are lacking in the brains department. Amp...give it a rest buddy...your 6500 posts show that you really do need to go out and see a good movie and smell the scent of a woman's perfume.
Turn off your computer man and start going outside and socialize a bit...seems you need to understand how the physical world relates to one another...not by how many posts you can irrately reply to in a given 24 hour period.

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Okay Facial, you come up to me and bitch around because of a simple "misspell" comment? what the?

Alright lemme change that "misspell" for FRAUD.

you DO NOT own the content. you did NOT pay for it as you state. you are NOT SELLING prepaid hosting



One more word and I contact ebay.
Wont change a thing anyways... don't expect 18,000$ for a AVS site thats only feeded with tgp galleries. oh... with stolen content?

Anyways, as every other time before, dont have the guts to reply something smart and go whine everywhere on how much I think I'm god and I'm a fucking bitch... you might make friends that way.



Dude, what on Earth are you talking about? Where is this all coming from? WTF..?!?
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Forget it, I knew it. If you can't read I won't explain.
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Old 02-14-2002, 11:58 PM   #146
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Man, what is up your ass?

What's this shit with you attacking me out of nowhere? That's a pretty nifty trick of you posting two of my galleries (Content bought and paid for by the way) that serve only to promote AdultBouncer. Last time I checked, a company that is serving you very well...so why would you mock me? What was that all about?

Am I to understand that whoever you dislike, for whatever reason, you find their personal stuff and post it on a public forum for all to see? I certainly can't do that with you. So does that make you feel powerful over me?

I can't believe you'd do such crap man. Seriously...is this the example others should follow? Is this what you get paid to do?
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Is this what you get paid to do?
Thats what I do in my off-time, thats clear.

My talk does not represent my boss' thoughs in any way, and that is why I did not make any statement about how AB would react to this. right? clear.


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What's this shit with you attacking me out of nowhere?
I feel free to attack anyone that spam discutable auctions.


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Whatever reason? you're the biggest trouble maker and bullshitter I've ever meet. CLEAR? You have been warned, flamed, and you keep on doing it... you're asking for it.


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you find their personal stuff and post it on a public forum for all to see?
Anything to hide? I didnt know it was illegal to post links...


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So does that make you feel powerful over me?
Get over it... I'm expressing myself freely... never said I'm your boss do this do that... so what the heck are you talking about?


You still didnt show me those licenses... you know most of them won't let you transfer the rights, or the new owner must pay fees to get the license transfered? How about you add this to your auction:

"I do not own the movies, I use free hosting, not paid forever hosting, the pics might or might not come with the deal and you will probably have to pay crazy fees for the transfer of licenses or risk beeing sued."

That would be already a bit better. You still gotta explain the 4-8 hours of work for a whooping 2500 hits/day. amazing.
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I must still say your clarification on the auction helps a bit. I'm able to admit when you do something smart... just too bad... took your 140 replies to get it... LOL
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Old 02-15-2002, 12:52 AM   #149
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Why don't you people don't get that he is just selling a site that is worth at least $5000!

AdultBouncer confirmed that the deal is legal.

He has 321 recurring members and if I'm right AdultBouncer retains around 80-90%

So, it's a good deal RIGHT?
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He sells it 18000$... read the thread...
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