So...you're trying to sell a free site for $18,ooo? Is this correct? Are you a loon?

"Trying" being the operative word here. Maybe he should try an easier crowd next time...you know, someplace where no one reads the fine print. :1orglaugh

Ampute,

I am new to this board, but it didn't take me too long to start hating your dumb ass.

Considered you are so damn smart, and you know everything about everything, have you ever accomplished success in your life? Like, I mean, do you actually run any profitable online business or do you just waste your life posting your dumb opinions on GFY?

:2 cents:

3 secs is a long time:P where do u have the time to run anything if your always posting in here amp? just curious

www.studioadult.com :321GFY

Join the club.

but answer me this... WHY do you hate? Is it the abrasive personality, the charming good looks, or the fact that I have no problem exposing bs scams like this?

Oh, a design firm :)

hehehe :) No wonder you have so much time on your hands

this idiot is fucking serious?! if this site is worth 50k, am a fucking millionare :321GFY

actually I don't.... but stuff like this gives me major wood, so I make time.

While Amp may indeed have too much time on his hands (DAMN man, 36 posts a day!), he is absolutely right here, as he usually is. You, gotys, deserved what you got, and FH is deserving what he gets here.

Anyone who (verbally or otherwise) kicks the shit out of people trying to scam their fellow adult webmasters gets and deserves my respect.

Cheers,
Backov

my bad thats 5k not too bad but still :321GFY

Seemed to me Amp was right on the money both times...

It's all good gotys.... nobody needs to be a genius to see through stuff like this... and your little digs on me have zero impact, so save your breath.... I've heard them all before a thousand times. Like I said, if something is legit, there's no need to get defensive and try to justify it. It'll hold it's own water... only scam artists try to pull shit over peoples eyes. Shame on you guys for trying to fuck over fellow webmasters for a quick buck. Why are YOU so bent and defensive gotys?

My profitability isn't in question here. Hardly the topic I should think. But don't play with me kid. I could buy and sell you over lunch. Guaranteed.

for all you people coming here saying his site is worth no where near 5k. I site is worth what someone will pay for it. stock market works this way also.

WRONG!!!!

This is utter nonsensical crap. Do you honestly believe this? Things really do have value attached to them ya know. Or do we just throw the entire pricing structure right out the window and put everything out there up for bid? Want a new television? It's worth $30K cuz somewhere, someone will be willing to pay it. The "it's worth what someone is willing to pay for it" mentality doesn't really have much place in the practical world. If it did, then my ol' leakin' waterjug is worth $15K. Never mind it's a piece of shit plastic that won't even hold water properly.

That site is worth the traffic it currently has and that's about all. There's no server included in the sale, cuz it's on a freehost. There's no content included in the sale, cuz it's system content. There's no guarantee of anything, because if (notice I say IF... I'm not assuming anything here) his traffic is based on personal affiliations, they'll die off soon after the sale and traffic will plummet. So, boiled down, you got a crappy front to an avs site that anyone could whip up in ten minutes, built with content that isn't his to sell along with it. And you're gonna say with a straight face that it's worth more than $10 dollars?

You'll be back in the unemployment line soon enough and the headaches will go away... I promise.

mika the market is always this way. if stocks were valued on 6 months of income or profits, nothing would be worth anything.

amputate. Diamonds are a great example of this. The Diamond market was created by debeers. they had huge mines of this stuff. they started the revalution of women wearing them in the 60's I believe.

Diamonds are a BAD example of this. DeBeers has that shit cornered. They can pretty much charge whatever the hell they want cuz... where else you gonna get 'em from? I hardly think one lousy avs front compares in any way. Everyone's little sister can make those.

And may I add, if you wanted to compare to stock market, there had to be several sites like that in sale (=stocks)
And multiple buy/sell offers are being made .

You couldnt trick/cheat anyone to buy an overpriced stock. Thats where stock market is handy - commodity gets it real value (in theory) and no asshole can try to sell it to you for any higher price than what it is priced in the market.

Exactly!,

This is an AVS site, the content is provided by adultbouncer and hosted by adult bouncer. Your buying the front end to an AVS site..

Any of the more intelligent people could build this site in 1 day and be making the same money in 2-4 weeks. And if you want I'll sell you the manual on ebay for $5,000, no reserve.

Can we get a private section for the more intelligent people around here?

Ampute,

what you can buy over lunch is none of my interest. The point here is that anytime someone tryes to sell something you have to go and dig into it and find dirt that doesn't exist.

I was trying to sell my site completely legit with no hidden games, yet you had to dig in it and came up with BS dirt to make sure someone doesn't make money since you don't.

People like you make me sick and are the parasites of this world that keep good shit from happening.

Anyone who is with you is against me. And there is lots of you here, jalous little kids that didn't have time to grow up because were too busy stepping on other's toes.

When you actually achieve any kind of success that can even compare to mine, you can start talking shit about me or other's who try to do legit business. Untill then you should keep your stupid mouth shut and design your little graphics or what have you.

With that said, I will no longer reply to your posts as they make me puke over the fact that kids like you have internet access.

Fuck you hardcore and good luck with your doodeling bussiness.

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Anyone here arguing with amp is wasting there time for one he is CORRECT and for two anyone can say anything they want.
As well anyone can sell anything they want for what ever amount they wish... If they are assholes and trick some fool into spending a shit load of money for a shity design I could make in 10 mins who cares thats the retard to buys it problem.

Heh. no right to sell content. :BangBang:
But I guess we wont rip the new owner and let him use the same content...

Hosting paid forever? you smoke crack. :stoned
You gotta tell the thruth in those auctions... :angel

:helpme

That's funny, it seemed to be your interest just a few posts ago.
I didn't have to dig at all. It's bullshit and it's brutally obvious.

again, I didn't have to dig. No hidden games? d00d... your thread was nothing BUT games, beating around the bush, and excuses.
get over yourself Rambo. You don't know the first thing about me so shut your fuckin' idiot hole before someone stuffs a cock in there.

I'm a parasite? What exactly is it that I'm feeding on?
Yeah.... good for you... fucked for the poor fucker that actually shells out the hard earned money for it and gets fucked 2 weeks later when the traffic bombs.

Look... I know the truth hurts. Deal with it man. I truly couldn't give a flying fuck about you bro.... in fact, as you can see, I even lost interest in responding to all your crybaby ranting. I just hate to see some uninformed buyer make a hasty purchase without knowing what they're getting. Unlike you, I actually DO have respect for the people in my industry, and hate to see people get ripped on some flaky fuckin' overpriced *deal* on some failing site or unlicensed content and empty promises of *free hosting for life!*

Nobody here is stupid man... some of us are just more outspoken than others. But you are the one getting all twisted... not me. Everything I've said has been in a business context. YOU are the one dishing out personal attacks here. So take your fucking sniveling snotnosed crybaby sissy bullshit and stick it in your fuckin' ass rockstar. If you can't back up the things you claim, then maybe you shouldn't claim them.

Great. I just dug up $1.14 in pocket change. That's what I'm willing to pay for it. Thar's his first legit bid, and I think he's getting the better end of the deal (if he takes it)

Damn some people can argue in circles endlessly. Comments about Amp's own business or how much time he spends online are weak attempts to deflect the argument off the focus. Nice try. The questions still remain unanswered, and I for one would like to hear some non-bullshite answers to them.

1) If site is so profitable and low-maintenance, why sell?

2) How can you include content in the sale that you don't own the rights to yourself?

3) How can you morally include "free bandwidth" as a selling point when it isn't yours to sell or profit from?

4) if this deal is so legit and gold-plated, why get so defensive when called to the carpet about a few things regarding it?

So far all I'm hearing is wind and tumbleweeds when these questions have been put to you. Talk is cheap.
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Thank god the whole industry doesn't do business like you. Tricking a surfer into a link or something is one thing... but when you start fucking over the people you work with... you're on the path to quick and ugly self-destruction. Good luck.

That's the best post of the day.
Summarizes this thread with a couple of words

For your information Amp I did not say I was like that, all I was trying to say is give it up who cares what joe blow does to jim bob.
Me personaly I think that almost every webmaster is ripping somebody off that is what this buisnes is about right? I mean your selling something to serfers who dont know better, whethere or not they are webmasters is beside the point.

Pic Pile, so people have way to much time to post so much.

Its really time consuming trying to read all these posts.

I agree with you about the stock market way of looking at things.

If the demand is high the price he gets is higher

if their is no demand he wont sell it.

I bet its worth very little, like someone said, 90% of the people in GFY can make that site in about 24 hours.

I care.
I don't see it that way... sorry. And I don't see a need for me to elaborate on that.

well thats your opinoin and you are entitled to it, but my point still stands. until you prove it other wise.:321GFY

I don't really know anybody on here but am surprised at the slamming of facialhost.


if you look over adultbouncers pages to see how they run things you would get allot of answers. I saw this stuff from skimming a bit so don't kill me if Im not totally correct, but...


1. he is using their freehosting and free content so thats where the no cost comes from since you get the front end and domain, etc.

2. hes using their paysite model system where he sets up a site on their system and can send members and use an affiliate program with payouts to those people just like the big pay sites do.

3. He has worked to build a name, to get those current members, and to get those affiliates promoting his site, which could not be slapped together in weeks.

4. Adultbouncer has rules on limiting the content per webmaster per month as far as titles go, so you can't just signup today and duplicate all the themed content he has on his site. It would take you months to get to where he is at content wise and I think new titles keep coming out, and its up the individuals in the ab system to package them. some do general hardcore, and some themed like facialhost.




Im not saying his site is worth anything but he has put in work to get to where he is. Their are lots of people making allot of money using adultbouncers system whether you like it or not, and its really cool they offer all that stuff for free.

I guess in theory adultbouncer could close tomorrow and you would have nothing which is true but i guess you always take a chance when selling websites. In this case you would be out a ton more than usual of course.

I guess the only issue would be is what adultbouncer says about transfering the account from facialhost to another party right? BUt I would imagine this kind of thing happens and they can deal with it to make it legit.

Prove otherwise? Are you kidding me with this shit...

You just said that the whole business is about ripping people off. What exactly is it you would like me to prove? That your statement is total and utter stupidity? That it is the mentality of a thief? That you will never earn the respect OR trust of ANYONE outside of other crooks by doing business that way? Your statement STANDS???! Your statement isn't worth this reply.

My god you are dumb, do you even read what i said, and I dont care whos respect I have this is not a popularity contest jack ass.
Heh you should learn to understand what people are saying before posting. I was on your side lol. anyways this is my last post in this thread I dont want this jack ass to get a free dvd player.

DeBeers and any other diamond reseller make their money on deception - selling to the general public that don't know that they are being forced to pay 400% and higher mark ups

anyone in the wholesale diamond industry (and i was for a few years) knows that you can get precious gems for dirt cheap

but youwon't find DeBeers trying to pull the "fast one" on other resellers because they already know the pricing of precious gems

so that just leaves flogging the "ice" to ignorant people in order to make a quick buck

hmmmm, sound familiar?

I think I did read what you said:
Can't really see how I could've misinterpreted that... but okay.

If you truly believe that then I suggest you hang up your keyboard now. This industry doesn't need any more morons that don't even care enough to take the time to learn the true answer to that question.

Surfer clicks a link on my site that says "click here for premium pussy", surfer likes what he/she sees at said premium pussy site, surfer decides freely to whip out credit card and purchase membership, I later get paid a % of that payment.

Where exactly am I fucking anyone? If the surfer decides to let a rebill go through, then I can safely assume that they are genuinely satisfied with their purchase. Educate me oh dumbass, where is anyone being ripped off?

Think before you open your suckhole to accuse others.
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threads like this make me remember why i keep putting off selling my sites. :uhoh

LMFAO

CDSmith
Well you are midle maning them. WHy should you get paid for what they could go buy from a content provider?

Amp
Hang up my keyboard? why shouldnt I do what yall are doing? I have a nice full time job cosy and shit but extra money is always nice. Im not out to steal from anyone but credit card holders.
I will admit it atleast, hey this beats being in jail again.

Ampute,

"get over yourself Rambo. You don't know the first thing about me so shut your fuckin' idiot hole before someone stuffs a cock in there. "

Are you threatening me you little shit?

Can I use that text? I like it.

All businesses are full of middleman. :) I don't buy food from farmers, or cars at the Ford plant, or cigarettes from the tobacco farmers. We could all go do that, but it would be impractical.

Good grief.

This is a funny thread! Hey Rocky, where do you get diamonds for dirt cheap?

Not at all Dawg... if FacialHost had simply been honest from the start and simply said he was selling his avs front, non of this would have happened. But look at the damn Ebay page... 90% of it is deception and the other 10% is flat out lies.

He doesn't own shit. It's not his to sell.

Now if we go with some of the wisdom posted in this thread, sure.... he can sell it for whatever he wants... I don't have a problem with that... but let's not pat each other on the ass and pretend to not notice what the hell is up.

If we follow the "go ahead and sell whatever you want at whatever price you can get, to some unsuspecting dumbass" theory.... sure... okay... fine.... but this is the wrong place to look for unsuspecting dumbasses. And they shouldn't be fuckin' crying when they get called on it.

I don't know this guy... I have no reason to mailiciously bring him down for trying to honestly sell something... all I did was pop in to see what was up, looked at his shit, and commented on what I found. If it wasn't shady, I'd have had nothing to say. And I don;t mean the site is shady... I don;t know enough about him or his site to say that.... but the SALE of it certainly is.... and that's what I'm commenting on.

If he wants $5K for it, fine.... sell it to someone who will believe it... put an ad in the newspaper... whatever.... but when he brings it to a public forum like this, and posts the sale of it publicly... he should expect to see some scrutiny about the details.

ROFLMMFAO!!!

You'll know when I'm threatening you.

They are all middle maning people too, only diffrence is they are big corporations. In this buisness anyone can start to make some serious cash as long as they are creative. Hey Im all for it dont get me wrong with out the middle man money would almost be useless and who would want a more peacefull sociaty. In your message you re-inforced my previous point ALL ADULT WEBMASTERS ARE CROOKS. Who has never said danm this car is too much for what its worth "what a bunch of crooks"


Amp your thoughts on this? I know you are dying to reply and bash anything that is said. By somebody who isnt all in your ass and brown to there neck

actually, I have no idea where you're going with that, and I have no comment.

but the brown-nosing part? You obviously don't know me very well. Kissing ass goes nowhere with me. Someone either has a solid foundation and expresses it well, or they don't. I don;t have anything to offer anyone, so ass kissing me is pointless.

Right. So by Altima's analogy, everyone who sets themselves up as a middleman is some sort of theif.

Gas station owners.
Grocery store owners
sporting goods owners
hardware store owners
shop owners of any sort

All theives. What a world Altima lives in. Why should I get paid? Duh, because without me the paysite wouldn't have gotten that referral. It's the very backbone of business, and if it's too hard to understand then yeah, Altima should get his dumb shiester ass back to prison.

Coming on here and basically calling every one of your peers theives is about as smart as dumping a site that supposedly makes a sizeable shitload of cash.
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