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woj · 08-26-2005, 12:35 AM

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$5 submissions · 08-26-2005, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy

program owners with quality sites..

I think this is the key phrase. Since not everyone runs quality user-centric/niche-centric sites there would be a lot of fallout.

Rui · 08-26-2005, 02:32 AM

LOL funny stuff...you are actualy rigth on the money tho

PrintAdult · 08-26-2005, 03:45 AM

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Linkster · 08-26-2005, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

It wouldn't be that hard to catch programs shaving. It would take 10 to 20 webmasters to work together.. Send some real traffic but not a lot, just enough to have some clicks and maybe a few real joins.. Then, each day, at a set time, a webmaster pulls out a CC and purchases a membership. A mixture of trials, full months, and a few 3 months.. Spread it out over a few weeks so no alarms go off.
When a sale doesn?t show, game is over..
..

From what Ive heard someone is already doing that currently - I havent heard the results yet - would love to see what they come up with

eroswebmaster · 08-26-2005, 06:04 AM

Bump for the agents on day shift.

titmowse · 08-26-2005, 06:05 AM

I love the smell of G-Men in the morning.

mardigras · 08-26-2005, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Linkster

From what Ive heard someone is already doing that currently - I havent heard the results yet - would love to see what they come up with

LOL, I'm surprised that 20/20 hasn't had some of their reporters become temporary "undercover" webmasters... they love reporting on the adult industry

mikeyddddd · 08-26-2005, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by devilspost

I dont want my dick sucked I want to put food on my family! lol

W loves you.

u-Bob · 08-26-2005, 07:12 AM

this one deserves a BUMP

jimmyf · 08-26-2005, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

don't know if its serious or not but i wouldn't shed a tear if programs that really shaved were gone. it would force some honesty in this business.

cuncur...

Ace of Spades · 08-26-2005, 07:45 AM

I would much rather they figure a way to rid of some of the idiots in this biz, like the many posting in this thread.

It's not hard for someone to figure out who shaves and who doesn't, if they have any understanding of their traffic and what it's worth!

XxXotic · 08-26-2005, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

first why do you all give it such a nice name Shaving. Call it for what it is Stealing but on the other hand . Affiliates want:
free hosted galleries
outragious commissions $1 trial $40 comm
higher percentage of the join for life of join
big prizes ,trips
Plus their dick sucked at conventions, dinners, parties, hot models running around plus freebie gifts.
The numbers dont work folks when you add everything in.

so that justifies theft? Remind me not to send you any traffic

Breakyourself · 08-26-2005, 10:08 AM

you're a twat!!!

Sarah_Jayne · 08-26-2005, 10:12 AM

According to a thread last week you should now be dragged out of your car and beaten to death.

tony286 · 08-26-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by XxXotic

so that justifies theft? Remind me not to send you any traffic

Im not saying it justifies theft Im saying, to give the affiliate all they want and still stay in business .I can see how the practice can happen. I dont have a affiliate program and if I did no no one would join because I couldnt afford to give away the house. Im going to say join my program I will give you 10 dollars a sale and you host your own galleries but I can guarantee I will not shave. No one would join, only my friends who like me or take pity on me would lol.
My experience with affiliates was in main stream I ran a program for a publicly traded .com and I had P@L responsiblity .

3piece chicken Dinner · 08-26-2005, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Im going to say join my program I will give you 10 dollars a sale and you host your own galleries but I can guarantee I will not shave. No one would join.

actually you could pay what you charge, and you should set up for retention. So you'll end up with a real number of 25.00 per sale to be comfortable. Until you have solid retention numbers and then you could decide how much and if to increase payouts. But you sure can't start at 40. per sale and decrease it.

I understand your point tony. authough it's really and honestly not as cut and dry as you have put it, you're on the correct path with your thinking.

It's a very rare case when you will see a NEW pps come out of the blocks at 40.00 per sale and live to tell you about it later.

eroswebmaster · 08-26-2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

According to a thread last week you should now be dragged out of your car and beaten to death.

Doctor Dre · 08-26-2005, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

first why do you all give it such a nice name Shaving. Call it for what it is Stealing but on the other hand . Affiliates want:
free hosted galleries
outragious commissions $1 trial $40 comm
higher percentage of the join for life of join
big prizes ,trips
Plus their dick sucked at conventions, dinners, parties, hot models running around plus freebie gifts.
The numbers dont work folks when you add everything in.

The sponsors decided to give that to affiliates ... they make competition between themselves ... their fucking problem if they offer something they can't deliver ...

BDSMpersonals · 09-07-2005, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 3piece chicken Dinner

The only hole in your theory Eros is that shaving is only percieved to happen.

It's a myth created by untalented webmasters to make themselves feel better about poor ratio's and lack of sales.

I am sure that everyone has their books in order and can account for the money generated from every signup and it will reconcile perfectly with their join numbers.

But if someone were shaving, this would be the way to shut that shit down.

A few years ago I was shopping for affiliate tracking/reporting sw, and the seller, who I will not name, did whisper in my ear that his system had built-in shaving, if I wanted it. Just dial it in, it's a config variable.

I did not use that system.

Yet, I have doubts that programs can be nabbed this way because shaving also happens all the time, for legitimate reasons. The more the feds delve into this the more they'll see that it's not worth pursuing.

The affiliate tracking script sellers, otoh, might be easily doable if they still offer shaving as a feature. Pretty hard to explain away why they have you on tape describing how their shaving feature works.

Ray Nagin · 09-07-2005, 10:16 PM

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fris · 09-08-2005, 04:10 AM

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Hooligan · 05-14-2006, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

not the smartest post i've seen someone make.

What are you afraid of? Does your program shave?

Good post if you ask me.

Hooligan · 05-14-2006, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by XxXotic

so that justifies theft? Remind me not to send you any traffic

Tony404 doesnt have a program. In fact, he isn't even a webmaster, All hes got is a post count.

Shaving is theft and programs who do it are lowlife scumbags.

devilspost · 05-14-2006, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hooligan

What are you afraid of? Does your program shave?

Good post if you ask me.

He is talking about the DOJ FBI IRS angle. dumbass

Manowar · 05-14-2006, 06:45 AM

Man i remember this thread

Barefootsies · 05-14-2006, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

first why do you all give it such a nice name Shaving. Call it for what it is Stealing but on the other hand . Affiliates want:
free hosted galleries
outragious commissions $1 trial $40 comm
higher percentage of the join for life of join
big prizes ,trips
Plus their dick sucked at conventions, dinners, parties, hot models running around plus freebie gifts.
The numbers dont work folks when you add everything in.

True dat.

While I do not agree or condone shaving. It's the cost of doing business. They have to balance their books somehow.

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