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Whats the servers/users ratio and BW involved in each one (on average)?

that all depends on the volume of users hitting your Node server


which depends on how well you can be seen.

Obvious question comes to mind, since you are doing all the work anyway, why not just distribute your own stuff and make $20-30k instead of only $10k?

you got icq or google talk by any chance ? :)

My guess is that GTS does not run their own sites and they have to send the traffic to other programs.

If you are the owner of the program you can definitley maximize through joins, upsells, exits, cross sells and even secondary billing revenue ( IE alternative billing)

:2 cents:

My icq is 137 202 998

Feel free to hit me up (assuming I can connect) lol

yea, but he said that simply sending the traffic to AAC will result in easy $2k profit short term and $20k-$30k long term? So it doesn't make ANY sense why he would sell it for $10k, when he can get $20k-$30k himself.

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Thanks for asking this question. Somebody always does and it gives me a chance to properly address it ;)

The short answer is this. We already DO distribute our own stuff and we already ARE making a ton of money on our own.

Our strength though is in distributing files and generating traffic for specific niches. Selling the traffic to buyers in the right categories allows us to focus on that strength instead of trying to figure out what converts best for a certain type of traffic this month. :)

We know how much money can be made on each campaign already; we have been testing for over a year. Our price is set up so our clients can profit and allow us to focus on uptime and maximizing traffic levels for them.

Running a vast worldwide network of p2p servers like ours requires full time staff members, competent data centers for hosting and tons of labor for misc. tasks related to our DRM system. This is accomplished better using a base of advertisers who pay for their traffic in advance while we improve our systems for them.

Interesting thread :)

spamming p2p networks, the next generation.

:)

i do admit all gts are, is a people finder, and get a % out of the gallery listings, cause site owners dont want to deal with finding people.

so basically they are just lackeys for big site owners. so bascially anyone could have started the company they just thought of it first. which was good. i do admit.

still many good ways to get traffic out there.

people sparking ideas all the time.

dont know if i would pay 10k up front.

i would charge someone 1k and i would do it for them. the p2p network structure isnt that hard.


that way i would get more people coming to me then them.

I will pay 10 grand if you are selling me traffic. Right now, its 10k for a service. If it was in CPC/CPA/CPM terms then I'll get you a check.

You know, I've heard people comment that p2p advertising is spamming a couple of times now.

We're advertising on the p2p networks in much the same way that banners and other forms of advertising are alive on the World Wide Web. Not too many years ago, people would have called banners spam let alone the new flash hover ads.

A lot of people distribute movies, music, images, programs, etc over any number of p2p networks. The real difference is that we deliver a large amount of specialized traffic. For more info, see Brad's post just above.

Great questions here!!

what steps have you taken to randomize ip's/hosts/servers to bypass the (bad ip) blocking programs that most file sharing systems come installed with now

Thanks for your interest in our product! Please feel feel to contact us for a complete detailed answer to your specific question.

The short version is that we have put a great deal of work and effort into creating a reliable and consistent process that ensures our customers see a good return on their investment.

This was the question i had in mind from the start. I dont think i would sell. Why would i sell if i was making good $ myself?

But with $3k + 8 servers i can still get the same traffic as this guy said. I dont know how it would convert though.

This dude said he made $13k in 40 days, now why would he take a paycut and sell traffic for $10k?

Really? poor guy, hahahaha :1orglaugh :thumbsup

How much are you willing to bet?

ICQ me, please.

Some of you guys are looking at this wrong.

I have my own affiliate programme coming out soon and I think this is a great idea for someone like me and my partner.

If we paid DH the $10K for this, basically to break even we'd need around 450 signups. Thats just us breaking even. Then, say even only 25% of them rebill to the next month, I'm then running at a good profit. As long as they keep rebilling I'm gonna be happy. And like DH says, you'll get traffic and sales for a long time to come even if you do only do it for one month.

This is something I'm greatly interested in. I'm gonna talk to my partner a lot about this, I believe he is interested also.

Less hassle for him
Guarenteed income

There's two reasons there. I'm sure there's tons more.

Not everyone is gonna be a fan of this. Its the same with everything, any new programme someone always wants to bash them.

I personally think its a great idea. I guess all I need to do now is put my money where my mouth is.

If any of you have the knowledge and know how to setup a traffic generation method like this you are wasting time arguing about it, when you should be contacting ME and DOING something about it. Why talk about it when we can be doing $50-100k a month in 90 days?

How can you say its less hassle?

He have to encode all the media files and make if drm.

He have to upload all the media in to the servers.

How is this less hassle again? If anything its more hassle. By doing this he takes a $3k paycut?

SO ICQ me and lets setup a huge network and make some money, fuck what he's doing lets do it for US and no one else.

Interesting perspectives.

What's the $3k for? Licensing, programming, content, etc?

Good luck making even remotely close to that... now that everyone knows about this traffic source, I would be suprised if you will pull in 1/10th of that.

probably consulting :)

That is because surfers like to change their file names to hide them from their girlfriends/wives, and then the files get shared again.

I know a chick who opened her boyfriend's mp3 folder to listen to some music and it was all porn videos with the file names changed to song titles. She was really pissed. :1orglaugh

what you are doing is bait and switch. its like linking thumbs to paysite tours. it won't take long for the majority of p2p users to wisen up and check the file size and other similarities and the profits will decrease as the number of people doing this increases. i don't see how its not spam. when you click a banner, you know what you're getting. when you download a movie and get nothing but a pop up, its spam.

$10k for 30 days
you made $12.700 in 40 days

:2 cents:

You do have a point, it will not take long before the "source" drys as soon craploads of people start flooding the networks with even more "crap" :2 cents:

Can I sell you some Hosting?

Numbers don't add up my friend. 10k on cj traffic (yeah marc there goes the plug) will give you a shitload more of money than p2p. Trust me it converts their fucking tgps convert very well imagine the main site... I know RemoteThumbs runs on them.

first you have to realize p2p peeps want free stuff Period. yeah you get the sicko with a cc but thats it.

1 in 3k ratio well that doesnt add up.

some numbers:

100 servers 3 mb file = 300mb harddrive space nowadays is stupid low.

now bw burnt for 987089708709870 downloads could be shitload of cash thats your cost...

seting the server files and whatever tricks ermsn 2 grand. please don't tell me its more cause thats like what you have 10k a month employees?


good idea... maybe you make more money but trust me i dont buy the big guys bought already cause the big guys are the first guys to say 3 grand WTF they just don't for out money like that. specially for no 1 in 3k ratio..

and again unless you have a video of a celeb or something like episode 3 before it came out on theaters then i would say you have a shitload of downloads.

Sounds like a great idea. Very surprised at the people asking why would you sell for $10k if you can make $14k. Absolutely idiots!

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ermn you really spend 10 grand to make 4???

if so i have a deal for you give me 10 grand i will give you 14 back and i will keep the rest i make.

$10k to get 20k of p2p traffic per day for 30 days.

I want to know who will got for this. Post a new thread if you bought from p2pads.com

Actually if you read the posts you would know that our campaigns are 40 days and not 30. We sell you 30 and give you 40.

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I think most of the "why don't you just keep your traffic?" people are short sighted about how advertising works. So I am addressing this question again.

Why doesn't thehun.com join partner programs and try to convert his traffic?

Why does google sell adwords and not just join every affiliate program and push traffic?

Why does Comedy Central sell advertising instead of make it's own products and sell them instead?

Our focus is on delivering traffic to sites; not converting it. We are offering you a turnkey system to generate traffic to your sites so you can focus on the bottom line, not hiring a CTO, webmaster, programmer and server techs to try and figure out how to make traffic for you.

I dont doubt a lot of people are paying them. At least 5-10 so far I would think.

So anyone buy a $10k p2p package from them yet? We want to know who did. :thumbsup

I doubt if its even 1.

Thats 40% return in one month!
Thats 480% a year.

The bank will give you 2% annually.

Think that thru.

so thats 48k profit a year but you spent 120k???

you froze 120k to make 48k doesnt make sense dude.

when you invest big numbers you at least want to try to double it.

yes we are too, we make the media clickable, and when they close the media, it opens to a website. lots of everything available.

why i would pay some shit stain like gts 10k? hah.

nice try.

talk about a bad atittude...shit man..relax FFS :2 cents:

What numbers don?t add up? My post doesn?t have any numbers to add.

How do you know that 10k spent at CJ will make more money than with us? Have you tried us to be able to make that comparison statement with integrity?

You say p2p peeps want free stuff? That?s what many shortsighted people in this biz said about TGP/MGP not long ago.

100 servers 3mb file? You have no idea how we do what we are doing, so your napkin math is waaaaay off I am sorry to say :)





A few of you have passed judgment on this already, and I don't expect to change your minds. I am just trying to make it clear that we are not in the business of ripping people off.

Many people?s reputations are on the line including mine and Mark?s (DH) to make sure our clients are happy with this product. I sleep very well at night knowing that they will be.

:) :)

dude you just showed your 40 day numbers what are you talking about. i am going with your numbers and the numbers i know which you apparenlty don't :) yeah it is napkin math but still 10k is too much.

time will tell...

Good idea good luck with it. do not get mad just time will tell.

i dear you to make public stats for 80 days of 1 campaign and or 120 :)

thats 30k worth of your service if i wanted to continue and make 12k profit

Ross feel free to hit me up on ICQ if you want to chat about this more. I would be happy to answer any questions you may have. :)

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Fris we'll talk very soon. I'm very fed up with your attitude and vagrant slander of GTS related companies.

DH

LOL :)

That's where I do all my business. Strip clubs in Montreal :)

Just had a look, you're offline now. Let's try to catch up tomorrow.

I agree with chadglni's post above, I think the important question is whether this system and price point is setup for affiliates or program owners?

also, I understand your business is too sell ads and not to figure out which sites/programs will convert best, however, as an affiliate, I am removing this risk from your hands and also adding additional risk, ie the 10k upfront payment. The problem is I don?t know how my sponsor will convert with this traffic, and at this price point it?s to big of a risk.

Finally, do you have any sample stats from other programs that you?ve sent traffic to?