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NoCarrier 08-23-2005 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chazer
so can car accidents dipshit.

Cars do not suddenly decide to attack kids.

nigga, please.

WarChild 08-23-2005 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NoCarrier
Cars do not suddenly decide to attack kids.

nigga, please.

Okay, but if you can't trust that I'll control my dogs, how can I trust that you won't get drunk and crash your car? Statistically, it's much more likely to happen than my dog killing you. Can you please get rid of your car please, it's a danger to me.

NoCarrier 08-23-2005 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
So let's see. Vets, Rottweiler owners and the Humane Society says one thing, and No Carrier another. I know who'd I'd trust first.

Yeah, the CDC are dumbasses. You should give them a call.

NoCarrier 08-23-2005 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
Okay, but if you can't trust that I'll control my dogs, how can I trust that you won't get drunk and crash your car? Statistically, it's much more likely to happen than my dog killing you. Can you please get rid of your car please, it's a danger to me.

We are using stats from the dog bites and attacks. You can't use other stats to prove a point. Sorry. You lose.

chazer 08-23-2005 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NoCarrier
Cars do not suddenly decide to attack kids.

nigga, please.

some people driving them do. i remember a story a few weeks back where this guy intentionally hit a ten year old riding his bike.

NoCarrier 08-23-2005 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chazer
some people driving them do.

Exactly, PEOPLE driving them.

WarChild 08-23-2005 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NoCarrier
Yeah, the CDC are dumbasses. You should give them a call.

Listen, you just keep touting the same numbers over and over. It's one set of statistics, and it's incomplete. Please look at the humane website I posted and it will give you a better understanding of why breed attack statistics are not a complete picture at all.

Dog breed is only one factor, and a small one at that, in dog attacks. I know this because I'm very much interested in dogs, pack mentality and control.

I'm well educated about why dogs behave the way they do. There's specific "drives" in every dog, regardless of breed. Any breed, for instance, will have a prey drive. Some larger than others but they all have it. You see this in poodle chasing a tennis ball. A Rottweiler chasing a screaming child is the exact same drive, but with a much different result obviously. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you're not as well educated in this matter, and it shows.

If you want to have a serious discussion about this and are prepared to do a little reading, let me know. If you want to keep spouting off the CDC statistics without really understanding what you're talking about, then I guess we're through.

WarChild 08-23-2005 02:16 PM

Interestingly enough, this is what No Carrier is interpreting from the CDC statistics. He's not pointing to a bulletin where the CDC (Center for DISEASE control) comes out and says "Rottweilers are dangerous dogs", he's making the leap to that conclusion all by himself.

On the other side of the coin, let me quote directly from the American Humane Society again:

"While breed is one factor that contributes to a dog's temperament, it alone cannot be used to predict whether a dog may pose a danger to his or her community".
http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affe...rous_dogs.html

So unless it's your contention, No Carrier, that you understand animal behaviors better than the Humane Society: Game, set, match.

NoCarrier 08-23-2005 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
Interestingly enough, this is what No Carrier is interpreting from the CDC statistics. He's not pointing to a bulletin where the CDC (Center for DISEASE control) comes out and says "Rottweilers are dangerous dogs", he's making the leap to that conclusion all by himself.

On the other side of the coin, let me quote directly from the American Humane Society again:

"While breed is one factor that contributes to a dog's temperament, it alone cannot be used to predict whether a dog may pose a danger to his or her community".
http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affe...rous_dogs.html

So unless it's your contention, No Carrier, that you understand animal behaviors better than the Humane Society: Game, set, match.

Look, go take care of your Rottweilers, I am happy to know they have an owner who can take care of them and love them. But the fact that you own 3 rottweilers, is a biased opinion.

Everyday, we hear stories like EroticySteve mentionned. Sure, you will dismiss them.

The stats show that it's riskier to own a Rottweiler. This is not a dog for kids. To answer the initial poster. No, don't get that dog.

justsexxx 08-23-2005 02:25 PM

Well those dogs can be great of course. The problem is, WHEN they bite, you have a big mess...With smaller dogs, or dogs who are not as strong, you will have less damage.

And they don't have to bite, because they are bad dogs. But a lot of older dogs that turn aggresive, have cancer in their head. And because of the pain, these dogs go crazy....

SplitLZ 08-23-2005 04:13 PM

I have had 4 Rottweiler they all have been friendly. Now I have a 6 year old son and for the last 3 years its been my sons best friend.If the dog your gonna get has not been around kid's, don't get it.Get a puppy.

cyberpunk 08-23-2005 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NoCarrier
If you want to take the risk that one day the stupid Rottweiler decides to take a bite outta your kids. Sure.

The neighbors had a rottweiler (one of the reasons why I decided to move and buy another house). I'm serious, if it wasn't of the fence, my kids would be dead by now. I hate those fucking dogs.


Get a fucking clue. Any dog can bite. Dog's don jsut 'turn' on people. Rotties bit far fewer people then most dogs. The issues was the neighbors dogs where allowed to run loose or you kids bothered the dogs

NoCarrier 08-23-2005 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberpunk
you kids bothered the dogs

I never let them outside in the backyard. EVER. My daughter is 5 and my boy was 1 year old when we moved. That fucking dog was angrily barking at everything from flies to people walking 2 miles from that fucking house. Fuck those dogs.

Everytime I went outside it tried to jump over the fence. If I had a gun and it was legal to kill dogs, I'd enjoyed a nice Rottweiler steak.

But hey, I guess there's something positive about everything. I bought a new house and this time, no fucking dogs around and a bigger backyard for my kids.

And you get a fucking clue, re-read this thread and you will learn that rottweilers are dangerous dogs.

WarChild 08-23-2005 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NoCarrier
IAnd you get a fucking clue, re-read this thread and you will learn that rottweilers are dangerous dogs.

No. If you read the thread, and I mean all of the thread, you'd see that you contend Rottweilers are dangerous dogs, but can't back it up. You're neither an experience owner of these dogs, a professional that deals with Animals, or educated about the subject in any other way. It's only an emotional thing, you already admitted one was able to scare you in to a state of terror. So much so, you had to move. Funny you should say I am Bias. :1orglaugh

All you have to back up your claim is statistics you're taking out of context and don't even really understand.

Did you notice that mixed breed dogs are "more dangerous" that Rottweilers if you go strictly on those statistics. Do you think you can figure out why? Because mixed breeds as an entire group make up a large percentage of the overall population. Same thing for "Pittbulls". A group containing more than a dozen dogs, by the average citizen's mind.

If you were to destroy every pittbull and every Rottweiler, do you think the number of dog attacks would go drastically down? By the percentage they're responsible for acording to your statistics? Of course not. Something else woudl take their place.

You have an irrational fear of big dogs, especially Rottweilers. Even though your statistically more than 4 times more likely to be killed by Lightning than all breeds of dogs combined.

TetsuoIronMan 08-23-2005 06:40 PM

Terriers lead that list and it isnt strange considering their unpredictable temperament.

Rottweilers on the other hand are generally very calm and loyal dogs. You can train them into family dogs and guard dogs at the same time. They are very friendly and can actually turn out good even in inexperienced hands which isnt true for many breeds.

Anyway any dog can be a killer or a harmless family pet. In 99% of all cases its the owners doing. Like master like dog.

Problem is a lot of clowns get a rottweiler/dobermann just to look cool. :disgust

TreasureBucks 08-23-2005 07:02 PM

I found my rotty as a pup.... someone had dropped him off, becuase he had mange really bad. I heard barking outside my window, and he was sittin right there looking at me, as if he was waiting for me to come to the window.

I took him to the vet and he was a turned into a good looking rotty. Very strong and healthy.

First there was the black ice road accident, him and I were involved in, he was still a pup, and we had to abandon the vehicle.... he followed me home 2 miles down a pitch black curvy country road. He survived the impact of the truck hitting the tree.

Then one day..... PARVO.
Spent a few days in the vet, and survived.

Next came the Dump Truck.....Smack....
He came back into the garage and crawled under a bench and did not want to be fucked with. Vet wanted to put him to sleep, i told him, fuck you....I had to crawl under there and get him out, I was the only one he would allow to. Hip had some pins put in it, and survived.


Next came the barbed wire - penis slash incident. That looked the most painful of all but, he was trooper and made it through it....

My dog was not raised to be aggressive and loved attention, especially kids....

but he also had an amazing instinct for people, who he could sense, wanted to harm another person.

My rot was poisoned by some redneck neighbors in Tennessee. They preferred i kept him in a cage, other then letting him roam free on my property, which they would tresspass through, to go hunting and or fishing on.

They poisoned him with antifreeze over the period of about a week... he started looking sluggish and lethergic one day, so took him to the vet....

I picked my dog up at the vet, paid my fee.... they said they ran some tests on him, of which i was charged for, and said they couldnt see anything wrong with him, other then the pins in hip may be giving him some pain..... and to take him home and let him get some rest....

2 days later he died.

First i was pissed at the Vet, so I went to the vet.....

one of the little guys at the vets office spilled the beans and told us, nobody actually examined him that day..they were too scared to open the cage to put a muzzle on him...... so they just sent him home and charged me for work they never did.

Later one of the neighbors confessed to another neighbor he poisoned my rot.

Tough Dog he was.

reed_4 08-23-2005 07:09 PM

Rottweiler are good guard dogs. you just need to give him a proper trainning.

tony286 08-23-2005 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Mario
BTW - one thing that if you have taken a basic Finite math class you would know about statistics is that they have co-relations that must be taken into consideration. For example white and silver cars get into more accidents than any other color of car - well the corelation to this is that the two most popular colors in new cars are white and silver - so therefore it would figure that by the law of statistic that there are more of them out there - there is a greater chance of them getting into an accident. Rottweilers are well within the top 20 of most popular dogs (http://www.futurepets.com/top50breeds.htm) # 13 to be exact - so could it just be comon sense because there are alot of them that there are more occurences - Again not sure if this can compute into the way you like to figure your statistic - but it's basic math

yeah my Bostons are number 17:)

chazer 08-23-2005 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TreasureBucks
I found my rotty as a pup.... someone had dropped him off, becuase he had mange really bad. I heard barking outside my window, and he was sittin right there looking at me, as if he was waiting for me to come to the window.

I took him to the vet and he was a turned into a good looking rotty. Very strong and healthy.

First there was the black ice road accident, him and I were involved in, he was still a pup, and we had to abandon the vehicle.... he followed me home 2 miles down a pitch black curvy country road. He survived the impact of the truck hitting the tree.

Then one day..... PARVO.
Spent a few days in the vet, and survived.

Next came the Dump Truck.....Smack....
He came back into the garage and crawled under a bench and did not want to be fucked with. Vet wanted to put him to sleep, i told him, fuck you....I had to crawl under there and get him out, I was the only one he would allow to. Hip had some pins put in it, and survived.


Next came the barbed wire - penis slash incident. That looked the most painful of all but, he was trooper and made it through it....

My dog was not raised to be aggressive and loved attention, especially kids....

but he also had an amazing instinct for people, who he could sense, wanted to harm another person.

My rot was poisoned by some redneck neighbors in Tennessee. They preferred i kept him in a cage, other then letting him roam free on my property, which they would tresspass through, to go hunting and or fishing on.

They poisoned him with antifreeze over the period of about a week... he started looking sluggish and lethergic one day, so took him to the vet....

I picked my dog up at the vet, paid my fee.... they said they ran some tests on him, of which i was charged for, and said they couldnt see anything wrong with him, other then the pins in hip may be giving him some pain..... and to take him home and let him get some rest....

2 days later he died.

First i was pissed at the Vet, so I went to the vet.....

one of the little guys at the vets office spilled the beans and told us, nobody actually examined him that day..they were too scared to open the cage to put a muzzle on him...... so they just sent him home and charged me for work they never did.

Later one of the neighbors confessed to another neighbor he poisoned my rot.

Tough Dog he was.


that sucks dude. I think I would of asked the vet why he didn't call me. Then I would asked for my money back before knocking him the fuck out.

cyberpunk 08-23-2005 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chazer
177 fatal attacks in 15 years. 13% commited by Rottweilers.

That is only 23 fatal attacks in a 15 year period. That's less then 2 fatal attacks per year. There is more likely hood of your child being abducted and sexually assaulted by someone you know then being killed by a Rottweiler.


2 a year looks like Nocarriers kids are more likely to drown in the shitter then be killed by the Rott's


CPSC has received reports of 16 children under age 5 who drowned in toilets between 1996 and 1999.

source: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml02/02169.html

NETbilling 08-23-2005 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sama
I have an opportunity to adopt a Rottweiler from a bad home.
Female 6 months old, beautiful.

Can you tell me the good and the bad about them?
Kinda want to know what I'm getting into.
Good with kids? Other pets? etc.....

Thanks

They kill people just like pit bulls. Ask yourself this..... Is it worth risking the lives of your family to have a new pet?

Mitch

NETbilling 08-23-2005 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by EroticySteve
Warchild. I'm not saying that you're a bad person or that your dogs WILL lash out at someone, though I've seen it many times by dogs that can be described the same way as yours. It's possible.

Exactly, if a poodle spazzes out you can kick it away with little drama. However, the point is that most people are defenseless if/when a large breed dog does do this. That is part of the point I think.

You are absolutely correct Steve.

Mitch

tony286 08-23-2005 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EroticySteve
St. Bernards are known to cause DUI's. They carry a little barrel of potent alcohol on their collars. People have been known to drink these mini barrels and drive drunk.

Dangerous dogs those St. Bernards are.

You gave me a good laugh lol I would like to get a rottie but my two dogs are boston's and when they fight neither one gets hurts but add a bigger dog. Im looking at a $1000 dollar vet bill. I agree with war child its who raises the dog and the amount of time spent with it . Also sometimes dogs just dont like someone its the owners job to be aware.


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