Perfection Jeff/ Shooting Manic............ - GoFuckYourself.com

Juicy D. Links · 08-20-2005, 10:32 PM

TBH man this is my POV.

I never had personal beef with ya or perfectioncash cause i never sent traffic.

Now from my POV yo , come clean , pay debts if owed , apologize and try to start over instead of going from one alias to another..........

You cant hide that well. GFY detectives will know sooner or later.

-Come Clean
-Cut the BS
-Pay any monies owed
-Apologize
-Build your reputation back up and regain trust from your peers

My

Pleasurepays · 08-20-2005, 10:37 PM

you are always supposed to throw in one crazy demand so you can plead insanity later.

... or was that just for taking hostages?

nevermind

RogerV · 08-20-2005, 10:39 PM

Do you know something?

Juicy did you just grab my ass

Juicy D. Links · 08-20-2005, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerV

Juicy did you just grab my ass

Yes it was a Cyber Squeeze , I couldnt resist it looked so "tender"

Nickless · 08-20-2005, 10:43 PM

I think i'm with juicy on this one, (disclaimer: i do have some beef with jeff though and am still owed money but i dont care anymore)

If the guy is clean now and can do business without fucking anyone over then why not give him a second chance? if he fucks anyone again then yea blacklist him for good.

Juicy D. Links · 08-20-2005, 10:43 PM

Roger , move to Belize hot chicks here

JD · 08-20-2005, 10:44 PM

better get my sig in here

Juicy D. Links · 08-20-2005, 10:44 PM

umm Roger

http://www.pornopushers.com/internex...rnext_2005.wmv i think the chicks in that Vid fondled me in FLA

RogerV · 08-20-2005, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Roger , move to Belize hot chicks here

Not as hot has Tampa chicks

CDSmith · 08-20-2005, 11:12 PM

I just remember perfection Jeff having and defending underage model sites.

If the guy's reformed and operating above-board and not screwing anyone over, maybe it's been long enough that he's been made to suffer?

But I don't know first-hand about who's pissed at him right now and why. All I know is he used to run underage model sites back a few years ago, and I had a problem with his attitude back then.

I value honesty and integrity in business above all else. It would be interesting to speak to Jeff on the phone for a bit. I would post my honest impressions of him afterwards, but I doubt he'd be up for it.

lazycash · 08-20-2005, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

I just remember perfection Jeff having and defending underage model sites.

If the guy's reformed and operating above-board and not screwing anyone over, maybe it's been long enough that he's been made to suffer?

But I don't know first-hand about who's pissed at him right now and why. All I know is he used to run underage model sites back a few years ago, and I had a problem with his attitude back then.

I value honesty and integrity in business above all else. It would be interesting to speak to Jeff on the phone for a bit. I would post my honest impressions of him afterwards, but I doubt he'd be up for it.

His underage model sites were the least of his worries. The long list of designers, models and associates he decided to string out and stiff on payment was the bulk of his problems. He always seemed to repeat the same pattern, bank wire problems, lost check in the mail, bogus ups tracking #, it was always the same routine. Funny though, the straw that finally broke the camel's back was when he promised lensman an ipod and failed to deliver even after repeatedly saying he was going to send it. He has enough knowledge to make money in this biz, but his lack of business accumen and poor ethics will continue to bring him down.

CDSmith · 08-20-2005, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

His underage model sites were the least of his worries. The long list of designers, models and associates he decided to string out and stiff on payment was the bulk of his problems. He always seemed to repeat the same pattern, bank wire problems, lost check in the mail, bogus ups tracking #, it was always the same routine. Funny though, the straw that finally broke the camel's back was when he promised lensman an ipod and failed to deliver even after repeatedly saying he was going to send it. He has enough knowledge to make money in this biz, but his lack of business accumen and poor ethics will continue to bring him down.

Ahh, there you go. See.... I never did business with Jeff. Ever. All I saw of him was a few years ago, him posting his outrage about others in the industry cracking down on the underage model niche, especially the non-nude underage niche. There is an old thread here where Jeff was livid about it... and he took serious heat for it.

Yes... my memory is long. :D

Shooting_Manic · 08-20-2005, 11:31 PM

Hope you have deep pockets.

Come to my house as invited and see for yourself. I invited you and izzy, all expenses paid by me.

BTW, thanks for the SHooting Manian press.

Shooting_Manic · 08-20-2005, 11:34 PM

CDSmith · 08-20-2005, 11:35 PM

Honesty is valued above all else.... with me.

Period.

Nickless · 08-20-2005, 11:36 PM

all that and 0% rebills paid to affiliates showing up when ccbill decided to open this "feature" setting for affiliates to see

Shooting_Manic · 08-20-2005, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Honesty is valued above all else.... with me.

Period.

I agree with you 10000000%

CDSmith · 08-20-2005, 11:39 PM

As in..... deal me straight, and you'll never go wrong, we'll never have a problem.

Fuck me over once, or fuck over someone I respect, and you're done.

End of story.

CDSmith · 08-20-2005, 11:40 PM

Live by it.

Shooting_Manic · 08-20-2005, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickless

all that and 0% rebills paid to affiliates showing up when ccbill decided to open this "feature" setting for affiliates to see

Man, I dont even know who you are and have done nothing except try to help you with your new solo site biz. I have been nothing but kind since we started talking a couple weeks back. Why the hate for someone you have never mot or done business with?

I've only tried to help.

Shooting_Manic · 08-20-2005, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

As in..... deal me straight, and you'll never go wrong, we'll never have a problem.

Fuck me over once, or fuck over someone I respect, and you're done.

End of story.

Thats all cool and as I said, I 1000000% agree. Who are you and have you ever bought content from me? Have we had any business dealings at all?

CDSmith · 08-20-2005, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

Thats all cool and as I said, I 1000000% agree. Who are you and have you ever bought content from me? Have we had any business dealings at all?

Who am I? Christ man, how fucking long do I have to be in this industry before some of you fucking newbs know me?

Holy shit.

Anyways, I'm nobody, mkay? I'm just saying, weather you're Jeff or you're not, the way to do solid business is to NOT screw other people over, it is to offer up honesty and integrity, plain and simple.

I'm saying no more and no less.

Sound too preachy for some?

tough shit.

If you're the type that agrees and lives by it..... we're cool.

Nickless · 08-20-2005, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

Man, I dont even know who you are and have done nothing except try to help you with your new solo site biz. I have been nothing but kind since we started talking a couple weeks back. Why the hate for someone you have never mot or done business with?

I've only tried to help.

i've told you, i need proof that you're NOT perfection jeff and all i see around here points in the other direction, you don't want to post a pic of yourself, the posting style fits 100%, i really appreciate your help and you have been very helpful, that had my puzzled because i happened to post first about jeff's rebills shaving, if you can prove you're not perfection jeff then i'll eat my words and apologize.

Shooting_Manic · 08-20-2005, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Who am I? Christ man, how fucking long do I have to be in this industry before some of you fucking newbs know me?

Holy shit.

Anyways, I'm nobody, mkay? I'm just saying, weather you're Jeff or you're not, the way to do solid business is to NOT screw other people over, it is to offer up honesty and integrity, plain and simple.

I'm saying no more and no less.

Sound too preachy for some?

tough shit.

If you're the type that agrees and lives by it..... we're cool.

Youre right man. Again, we will be doing business since we think exactly alike.

Nickless · 08-21-2005, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickless

i've told you, i need proof that you're NOT perfection jeff and all i see around here points in the other direction, you don't want to post a pic of yourself, the posting style fits 100%, i really appreciate your help and you have been very helpful, that had my puzzled because i happened to post first about jeff's rebills shaving, if you can prove you're not perfection jeff then i'll eat my words and apologize.

I can't post in any other sm/pf related threads from now on, it can be misunderstood as a conflict of interest since i happen to produce content now, it wasn't the case when jeff stole my rebills. just wanted to clear that out.

Shooting_Manic · 08-21-2005, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickless

I can't post in any other sm/pf related threads from now on, it can be misunderstood as a conflict of interest since i happen to produce content now, it wasn't the case when jeff stole my rebills. just wanted to clear that out.

I have no idea what you just said.

Best of luck though. Your stuff is looking better everyday!

BellaSeaira · 08-21-2005, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

Thats all cool and as I said, I 1000000% agree. Who are you and have you ever bought content from me? Have we had any business dealings at all?

Here is a post from a satisfide customer

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...erfection+Jeff

Shooting_Manic · 08-21-2005, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BellaSeaira

Here is a post from a satisfide customer

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...erfection+Jeff

Here is another post prompted by fatel attraction.

You go girls!

bangman · 08-21-2005, 12:45 AM

SM is a good guy to deal with.
No bullshit, if he is "Perfection Jeff" he changed his ways.
He is one of the best producers in the solo market.
Seriously.

Fetish · 08-21-2005, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

umm Roger

http://www.pornopushers.com/internex...rnext_2005.wmv i think the chicks in that Vid fondled me in FLA

Those girls are not even hot. They look like first timers.

Juicy D. Links · 08-21-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Honesty is valued above all else.... with me.

Period.

Very true

lazycash · 08-21-2005, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Ahh, there you go. See.... I never did business with Jeff. Ever. All I saw of him was a few years ago, him posting his outrage about others in the industry cracking down on the underage model niche, especially the non-nude underage niche. There is an old thread here where Jeff was livid about it... and he took serious heat for it.

Yes... my memory is long. :D

Yeah I remember all the underage model drama with Jeff. For a about a 4 month stretch there was always drama regarding Jeff, I believe most of this might have been when you took your gfy hiatus cd.

lazycash · 08-21-2005, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickless

all that and 0% rebills paid to affiliates showing up when ccbill decided to open this "feature" setting for affiliates to see

Funny I totally forgot about his biggest con, when he was caught turning off the rebills for his affiliates.

08-20-2005, 10:32 PM	#1
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Perfection Jeff/ Shooting Manic............ TBH man this is my POV. I never had personal beef with ya or perfectioncash cause i never sent traffic. Now from my POV yo , come clean , pay debts if owed , apologize and try to start over instead of going from one alias to another.......... You cant hide that well. GFY detectives will know sooner or later. -Come Clean -Cut the BS -Pay any monies owed -Apologize -Build your reputation back up and regain trust from your peers My

08-20-2005, 11:12 PM	#10
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	I just remember perfection Jeff having and defending underage model sites. If the guy's reformed and operating above-board and not screwing anyone over, maybe it's been long enough that he's been made to suffer? But I don't know first-hand about who's pissed at him right now and why. All I know is he used to run underage model sites back a few years ago, and I had a problem with his attitude back then. I value honesty and integrity in business above all else. It would be interesting to speak to Jeff on the phone for a bit. I would post my honest impressions of him afterwards, but I doubt he'd be up for it. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

08-20-2005, 11:31 PM	#13
Shooting_Manic Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY Posts: 1,740	Hope you have deep pockets. Come to my house as invited and see for yourself. I invited you and izzy, all expenses paid by me. BTW, thanks for the SHooting Manian press. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

08-20-2005, 11:34 PM	#14
Shooting_Manic Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY Posts: 1,740	BTW, thanks for the Shooting Maniac press. While youre here, find out a bit about me and my services. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=460481 http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=459730 http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=500639 http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=458966 http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=459015 http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=503253 http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=462146 http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=502480 http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=506239 http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=506223 __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Last edited by Shooting_Manic; 08-20-2005 at 11:36 PM..

08-20-2005, 11:35 PM	#15
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Honesty is valued above all else.... with me. Period. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

08-20-2005, 10:37 PM	#2
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	you are always supposed to throw in one crazy demand so you can plead insanity later. ... or was that just for taking hostages? nevermind

08-20-2005, 10:39 PM	#3
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	Do you know something? Juicy did you just grab my ass

08-20-2005, 10:43 PM	#5
Nickless Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: homeless Posts: 1,955	I think i'm with juicy on this one, (disclaimer: i do have some beef with jeff though and am still owed money but i dont care anymore) If the guy is clean now and can do business without fucking anyone over then why not give him a second chance? if he fucks anyone again then yea blacklist him for good.

08-20-2005, 10:44 PM	#7
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	better get my sig in here

08-20-2005, 11:36 PM	#16
Nickless Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: homeless Posts: 1,955	all that and 0% rebills paid to affiliates showing up when ccbill decided to open this "feature" setting for affiliates to see

08-20-2005, 11:39 PM	#18
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	As in..... deal me straight, and you'll never go wrong, we'll never have a problem. Fuck me over once, or fuck over someone I respect, and you're done. End of story. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

08-20-2005, 11:40 PM	#19
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	Live by it. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

08-21-2005, 12:45 AM	#29
bangman Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PA, USA Posts: 5,283	SM is a good guy to deal with. No bullshit, if he is "Perfection Jeff" he changed his ways. He is one of the best producers in the solo market. Seriously. __________________ - David Hall ICQ: 312744199