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  • Juicy D. Links
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 122992

    #1

    Perfection Jeff/ Shooting Manic............

    TBH man this is my POV.

    I never had personal beef with ya or perfectioncash cause i never sent traffic.

    Now from my POV yo , come clean , pay debts if owed , apologize and try to start over instead of going from one alias to another..........

    You cant hide that well. GFY detectives will know sooner or later.

    -Come Clean
    -Cut the BS
    -Pay any monies owed
    -Apologize
    -Build your reputation back up and regain trust from your peers

    My
  • Pleasurepays
    BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
    • Aug 2002
    • 11913

    #2
    you are always supposed to throw in one crazy demand so you can plead insanity later.

    ... or was that just for taking hostages?

    nevermind

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    • RogerV
      Banned!
      • Jul 2002
      • 12591

      #3
      Do you know something?


      Juicy did you just grab my ass

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      • Juicy D. Links
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2001
        • 122992

        #4
        Originally posted by RogerV


        Juicy did you just grab my ass
        Yes it was a Cyber Squeeze , I couldnt resist it looked so "tender"

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        • Nickless
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2003
          • 1955

          #5
          I think i'm with juicy on this one, (disclaimer: i do have some beef with jeff though and am still owed money but i dont care anymore)

          If the guy is clean now and can do business without fucking anyone over then why not give him a second chance? if he fucks anyone again then yea blacklist him for good.

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          • Juicy D. Links
            So Fucking Banned
            • Apr 2001
            • 122992

            #6
            Roger , move to Belize hot chicks here

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            • JD
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Sep 2003
              • 22651

              #7
              better get my sig in here

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              • Juicy D. Links
                So Fucking Banned
                • Apr 2001
                • 122992

                #8
                umm Roger

                http://www.pornopushers.com/internex...rnext_2005.wmv i think the chicks in that Vid fondled me in FLA

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                • RogerV
                  Banned!
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 12591

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                  Roger , move to Belize hot chicks here
                  Not as hot has Tampa chicks

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                  • CDSmith
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • May 2001
                    • 51460

                    #10
                    I just remember perfection Jeff having and defending underage model sites.

                    If the guy's reformed and operating above-board and not screwing anyone over, maybe it's been long enough that he's been made to suffer?

                    But I don't know first-hand about who's pissed at him right now and why. All I know is he used to run underage model sites back a few years ago, and I had a problem with his attitude back then.

                    I value honesty and integrity in business above all else. It would be interesting to speak to Jeff on the phone for a bit. I would post my honest impressions of him afterwards, but I doubt he'd be up for it.
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                    • lazycash
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                      • Aug 2002
                      • 15214

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CDSmith
                      I just remember perfection Jeff having and defending underage model sites.

                      If the guy's reformed and operating above-board and not screwing anyone over, maybe it's been long enough that he's been made to suffer?

                      But I don't know first-hand about who's pissed at him right now and why. All I know is he used to run underage model sites back a few years ago, and I had a problem with his attitude back then.

                      I value honesty and integrity in business above all else. It would be interesting to speak to Jeff on the phone for a bit. I would post my honest impressions of him afterwards, but I doubt he'd be up for it.
                      His underage model sites were the least of his worries. The long list of designers, models and associates he decided to string out and stiff on payment was the bulk of his problems. He always seemed to repeat the same pattern, bank wire problems, lost check in the mail, bogus ups tracking #, it was always the same routine. Funny though, the straw that finally broke the camel's back was when he promised lensman an ipod and failed to deliver even after repeatedly saying he was going to send it. He has enough knowledge to make money in this biz, but his lack of business accumen and poor ethics will continue to bring him down.
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                      • CDSmith
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • May 2001
                        • 51460

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lazycash
                        His underage model sites were the least of his worries. The long list of designers, models and associates he decided to string out and stiff on payment was the bulk of his problems. He always seemed to repeat the same pattern, bank wire problems, lost check in the mail, bogus ups tracking #, it was always the same routine. Funny though, the straw that finally broke the camel's back was when he promised lensman an ipod and failed to deliver even after repeatedly saying he was going to send it. He has enough knowledge to make money in this biz, but his lack of business accumen and poor ethics will continue to bring him down.
                        Ahh, there you go. See.... I never did business with Jeff. Ever. All I saw of him was a few years ago, him posting his outrage about others in the industry cracking down on the underage model niche, especially the non-nude underage niche. There is an old thread here where Jeff was livid about it... and he took serious heat for it.

                        Yes... my memory is long. :D
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                        • Shooting_Manic
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 1740

                          #13
                          Hope you have deep pockets.

                          Come to my house as invited and see for yourself. I invited you and izzy, all expenses paid by me.

                          BTW, thanks for the SHooting Manian press.
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                          • Shooting_Manic
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 1740

                            #14
                            BTW, thanks for the Shooting Maniac press.

                            While youre here, find out a bit about me and my services.

                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=460481
                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=459730
                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=500639
                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=458966
                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=459015
                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=503253
                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=462146
                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=502480
                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=506239
                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=506223

                            Last edited by Shooting_Manic; 08-20-2005, 10:36 PM.
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                            • CDSmith
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • May 2001
                              • 51460

                              #15
                              Honesty is valued above all else.... with me.

                              Period.
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                              • Nickless
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                                • Aug 2003
                                • 1955

                                #16
                                all that and 0% rebills paid to affiliates showing up when ccbill decided to open this "feature" setting for affiliates to see

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                                • Shooting_Manic
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jan 2005
                                  • 1740

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by CDSmith
                                  Honesty is valued above all else.... with me.

                                  Period.

                                  I agree with you 10000000%


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                                  • CDSmith
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • May 2001
                                    • 51460

                                    #18
                                    As in..... deal me straight, and you'll never go wrong, we'll never have a problem.


                                    Fuck me over once, or fuck over someone I respect, and you're done.


                                    End of story.
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                                    • CDSmith
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                                      • May 2001
                                      • 51460

                                      #19
                                      Live by it.
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                                      • Shooting_Manic
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jan 2005
                                        • 1740

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Nickless
                                        all that and 0% rebills paid to affiliates showing up when ccbill decided to open this "feature" setting for affiliates to see

                                        Man, I dont even know who you are and have done nothing except try to help you with your new solo site biz. I have been nothing but kind since we started talking a couple weeks back. Why the hate for someone you have never mot or done business with?

                                        I've only tried to help.

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                                        • Shooting_Manic
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jan 2005
                                          • 1740

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by CDSmith
                                          As in..... deal me straight, and you'll never go wrong, we'll never have a problem.


                                          Fuck me over once, or fuck over someone I respect, and you're done.


                                          End of story.

                                          Thats all cool and as I said, I 1000000% agree. Who are you and have you ever bought content from me? Have we had any business dealings at all?

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                                          • CDSmith
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • May 2001
                                            • 51460

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
                                            Thats all cool and as I said, I 1000000% agree. Who are you and have you ever bought content from me? Have we had any business dealings at all?

                                            Who am I? Christ man, how fucking long do I have to be in this industry before some of you fucking newbs know me?

                                            Holy shit.


                                            Anyways, I'm nobody, mkay? I'm just saying, weather you're Jeff or you're not, the way to do solid business is to NOT screw other people over, it is to offer up honesty and integrity, plain and simple.

                                            I'm saying no more and no less.

                                            Sound too preachy for some?

                                            tough shit.

                                            If you're the type that agrees and lives by it..... we're cool.
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                                            • Nickless
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                                              • Aug 2003
                                              • 1955

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
                                              Man, I dont even know who you are and have done nothing except try to help you with your new solo site biz. I have been nothing but kind since we started talking a couple weeks back. Why the hate for someone you have never mot or done business with?

                                              I've only tried to help.

                                              i've told you, i need proof that you're NOT perfection jeff and all i see around here points in the other direction, you don't want to post a pic of yourself, the posting style fits 100%, i really appreciate your help and you have been very helpful, that had my puzzled because i happened to post first about jeff's rebills shaving, if you can prove you're not perfection jeff then i'll eat my words and apologize.

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                                              • Shooting_Manic
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jan 2005
                                                • 1740

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                Who am I? Christ man, how fucking long do I have to be in this industry before some of you fucking newbs know me?

                                                Holy shit.


                                                Anyways, I'm nobody, mkay? I'm just saying, weather you're Jeff or you're not, the way to do solid business is to NOT screw other people over, it is to offer up honesty and integrity, plain and simple.

                                                I'm saying no more and no less.

                                                Sound too preachy for some?

                                                tough shit.

                                                If you're the type that agrees and lives by it..... we're cool.
                                                Youre right man. Again, we will be doing business since we think exactly alike.

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                                                • Nickless
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                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                  • 1955

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Nickless
                                                  i've told you, i need proof that you're NOT perfection jeff and all i see around here points in the other direction, you don't want to post a pic of yourself, the posting style fits 100%, i really appreciate your help and you have been very helpful, that had my puzzled because i happened to post first about jeff's rebills shaving, if you can prove you're not perfection jeff then i'll eat my words and apologize.
                                                  I can't post in any other sm/pf related threads from now on, it can be misunderstood as a conflict of interest since i happen to produce content now, it wasn't the case when jeff stole my rebills. just wanted to clear that out.

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                                                  • Shooting_Manic
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                    • 1740

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Nickless
                                                    I can't post in any other sm/pf related threads from now on, it can be misunderstood as a conflict of interest since i happen to produce content now, it wasn't the case when jeff stole my rebills. just wanted to clear that out.

                                                    I have no idea what you just said.

                                                    Best of luck though. Your stuff is looking better everyday!


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                                                    • BellaSeaira
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                                                      • Jun 2005
                                                      • 339

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Shooting_Manic
                                                      Thats all cool and as I said, I 1000000% agree. Who are you and have you ever bought content from me? Have we had any business dealings at all?

                                                      Here is a post from a satisfide customer

                                                      http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...erfection+Jeff
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                                                      • Shooting_Manic
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jan 2005
                                                        • 1740

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BellaSeaira
                                                        Here is a post from a satisfide customer

                                                        http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...erfection+Jeff

                                                        Here is another post prompted by fatel attraction.




                                                        You go girls!


                                                        Last edited by Shooting_Manic; 08-20-2005, 11:14 PM.
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                                                        • bangman
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                                                          • Sep 2004
                                                          • 5283

                                                          #29
                                                          SM is a good guy to deal with.
                                                          No bullshit, if he is "Perfection Jeff" he changed his ways.
                                                          He is one of the best producers in the solo market.
                                                          Seriously.
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                                                          • Fetish
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                            • 823

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                                                            umm Roger

                                                            http://www.pornopushers.com/internex...rnext_2005.wmv i think the chicks in that Vid fondled me in FLA
                                                            Those girls are not even hot. They look like first timers.

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                                                            • Juicy D. Links
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                              • 122992

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                              Honesty is valued above all else.... with me.

                                                              Period.
                                                              Very true

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                                                              • lazycash
                                                                Troll Patrol
                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                • 15214

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                Ahh, there you go. See.... I never did business with Jeff. Ever. All I saw of him was a few years ago, him posting his outrage about others in the industry cracking down on the underage model niche, especially the non-nude underage niche. There is an old thread here where Jeff was livid about it... and he took serious heat for it.

                                                                Yes... my memory is long. :D
                                                                Yeah I remember all the underage model drama with Jeff. For a about a 4 month stretch there was always drama regarding Jeff, I believe most of this might have been when you took your gfy hiatus cd.
                                                                "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                                                Its crazy..."

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                                                                • lazycash
                                                                  Troll Patrol
                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 15214

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Nickless
                                                                  all that and 0% rebills paid to affiliates showing up when ccbill decided to open this "feature" setting for affiliates to see

                                                                  Funny I totally forgot about his biggest con, when he was caught turning off the rebills for his affiliates.
                                                                  "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                                                  Its crazy..."

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