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Old 08-24-2005, 03:54 PM   #51
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Since god was there before the "Big Bang", who created god ?

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Old 08-24-2005, 03:54 PM   #52
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Old 08-24-2005, 04:03 PM   #53
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Since god was there before the "Big Bang", who created god ?
L. Ron Hubbard did it - blame him
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Old 08-24-2005, 04:13 PM   #54
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The real answer to this is pretty much documented as historical fact - Israelites had their gods with El at their leader of gods, and the Judeans, with their one god Yahweh - and around the 8th century BC they had to pick one in order to prevent conflict since they were living among each other as races - so the refugee camps in Jerusalum spawned leaders that documented their decision of Yahweh - and about that time is when the old testament was basically formed - albeit with many discrepancies of stories - scientists and archeologists have proven most of the stories as myths from hard physical evidence but those original stories (about 40 of them) became the original bible and created the "one god".
It was revised again in the 600-700s BC by the Deuteronomist writers who were setting up visions of that one god sitting in the temple of Jerusalem - and the real king on the throne in those days played a little of peoples fears - sending "messangers from god" with warnings - and when the Jews disregarded them he sent his armies in to teach them a lesson - which led to great biblical stories but they were all BS to hold a population in control at the time (hmmm - sound familiar?)

Soooo - the final answer would be that each population center of the world back then created a "god or set of gods" to explain away things like eclipses and famine etc - and eventually formed them all into one god which is still used to host fear in billions of human lives - what a shame we cant progress any further
Interesting story ;) I didn't know that ... and my father is a theologist among other things ;)
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Old 08-24-2005, 04:21 PM   #55
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Some people in this thread simply googled for an answer

Does anyone have there own theory?
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Old 08-24-2005, 04:42 PM   #57
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God is the alpha and the omega.
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:49 AM   #58
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Old 08-25-2005, 12:50 AM   #59
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no no.. he just created the internet and he also created G. W Bush
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:15 AM   #60
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If someone created God, then he is not God at all. no explanations further.
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can you prove that mathematically?
Actually yes.

http://www.highbeam.com/ref/doc3.asp...thermody&num=1

First Law: Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Therefore we can only transfer it from one form to another. What we deem as toxic waste is waste that is not easily or cost effective to transfer back to a state which we can live with. Seeing that we can not create anything from nothing raises the question..."who can"

Second Law: The second law is expressed mathematically in terms of the concept of entropy. Entropy being a state of confusion or disorder. If I jumped out of a car at 25mph and let the car roll, it would stop. If there was not any friction applied to the car, the car would never stop. It would stay in motion untill something stoped it (brakes, tire friction, wall). So this world would constantly decay to an unusable state if something did not keep it's pulse beating. The world would not be destroyed, it would simply transfer its self to a different (possible unusable) form. We can see this happening to a small degree over the 1000s of years that we have actual records.




Shit. And I came here to relax!
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:46 AM   #62
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Actually yes.

http://www.highbeam.com/ref/doc3.asp...thermody&num=1

First Law: Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Therefore we can only transfer it from one form to another. What we deem as toxic waste is waste that is not easily or cost effective to transfer back to a state which we can live with. Seeing that we can not create anything from nothing raises the question..."who can"

Second Law: The second law is expressed mathematically in terms of the concept of entropy. Entropy being a state of confusion or disorder. If I jumped out of a car at 25mph and let the car roll, it would stop. If there was not any friction applied to the car, the car would never stop. It would stay in motion untill something stoped it (brakes, tire friction, wall). So this world would constantly decay to an unusable state if something did not keep it's pulse beating. The world would not be destroyed, it would simply transfer its self to a different (possible unusable) form. We can see this happening to a small degree over the 1000s of years that we have actual records.




Shit. And I came here to relax!

That doesn't answer the question he was was asking.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:12 AM   #63
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That doesn't answer the question he was was asking.
The question was can you prove that God was not created. Since the challenged quote was "something that has no boundaries or limits, no beginning or end, couldnt have been created"

Unless I'm missing something..i'm tired, i'm headed to bed.
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