question about that ragecash program..

[mrthumbs]

Is Airek the owner? Just a rep? So who are the owners then?

[Luis Mesa]

bump.......

[killerkay]

yea airek is the owner of ragecash

[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by Luis Mesa

bump.......

lol


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[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by killerkay

yea airek is the owner of ragecash

So this whole ragecash thing is basicly a one man show?

Scary shit if you ask me!!

[killerkay]

sign up under me and promote them enjoy the check

[Sly]

Extreme Pay Checks is behind it. They'll deny it and people will say A1R3K is the owner but think about it for just 5 seconds and you'll see why that makes absolutely no sense.

[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by Sly

Extreme Pay Checks is behind it. They'll deny it and people will say A1R3K is the owner but think about it for just 5 seconds and you'll see why that makes absolutely no sense.

I know that doesnt make sense. Thats why im asking.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by mrthumbs

Is Airek the owner? Just a rep? So who are the owners then?

i am not a rep. the rest will not be discussed.

i think all the speculation is great.

what matters is that its a dope program.


bottom line is only a few people know the details of anything, jsut like every other company on the web. nothing new here. its all good.

people who know me, know me, those who don't ask questions, which is great.

[MikeVega]

I'm not sure that he's an owner .. i think he's there marketing guy .. he may have a partnership in it ..we never really talked about it ...either way he's doing a great job ..

EDIT: Then again ...see his post above ...

[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

i am not a rep. the rest will not be discussed.

"not discussed" ? So its a secret? Thats fucking reliable!

People here actually sending traffic to this program? hahaah

[Sly]

He very well could be a partner as mentioned. Sole owner would be just plain scary.

[SomeCreep]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

i am not a rep. the rest will not be discussed.

Is "who owns ragecash" supposed to be kept secret?

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

i am not a rep. the rest will not be discussed.

all the secrecy makes it seem shady, just my opinion. its not ole edward is it? he still owes me money.

[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

i am not a rep. the rest will not be discussed.

i think all the speculation is great.

what matters is that its a dope program.


bottom line is only a few people know the details of anything, jsut like every other company on the web. nothing new here. its all good.

people who know me, know me, those who don't ask questions, which is great.

Ah.. a more extended reply.

So basicly if id send my precious traffic i could be doing business with
just about anybody...?

I cant believe the stupidity of that but if it works for you guys why not


edit: see left sig..

[seeric]

Originally Posted by Sly

He very well could be a partner as mentioned. Sole owner would be just plain scary.

hmmmmn. what would make you say that?

maybe you'd like to recite my resume over the last 16 years of my life so everyone can know what you do. don't be shy.

some of you have it all twisted up, you see me playing "dj guy" and end up with it tatooed on the inside of your brains. i would suggest you found out a little more about people before you diss them. so, you gonna tell us why it would be scary?

[JD]

who fucking cares anyway?

[fatal attraction]

Hey you! Hit me up on icq please!

Don't forget the 15th either!!!!!

[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by fatal attraction

Hey you! Hit me up on icq please!

Don't forget the 15th either!!!!!

Ill be on icq in an hour or so, you sohuld go to bed early tho!

the 15th is on my mind, dont worry ;)

[SomeCreep]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

hmmmmn. what would make you say that?

I believe Ragecash is already owned or at least partly owned by another large sponsor, because I got a check from Ragecash before I even signed up with them.

Btw, thanks for that A1r3k, or whatever company sent it.

[killerkay]

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

who fucking cares anyway?

people tend to care because they put there income on the line with programs

[seeric]

Originally Posted by mrthumbs

Ah.. a more extended reply.

So basicly if id send my precious traffic i could be doing business with
just about anybody...?

I cant believe the stupidity of that but if it works for you guys why not


edit: see left sig..

opinions and assholes, everyones got one. good thing i've kept my nose clean and been "standup" right? i'm dismissing this thread. i'm tired. i've been busting my ass on something that is trying to be the best it can. every now and then you should really try to come out of "negative land" to see if there is anything cool coming out. some of you "gfy addicts" really amaze me. you live in dismay, and un-happiness for so much of your life, looking at "*******" and drama, and "would you hit it" threads that you probably couldn't even identify anything legit anyhow. bottom line is rage has great people behind it, and it kills people so much that they can't know everything, that they have to resort to politician level "diss threads" to try and get what they want.

childish.

absolutely amazing.

thank you to people who support,and know what's up.

nite all.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

hmmmmn. what would make you say that?

maybe you'd like to recite my resume over the last 16 years of my life so everyone can know what you do. don't be shy.

some of you have it all twisted up, you see me playing "dj guy" and end up with it tatooed on the inside of your brains. i would suggest you found out a little more about people before you diss them. so, you gonna tell us why it would be scary?

And now you're assuming things. Keep going.

Its nothing personal against you dude. You're right, I don't know you.

However, I do know that you have stated these sites have been in production for 6 months. Six months ago you were working for another company, yes?

You have worked for a couple different companies since you came back into the industry, which leads me to believe that you have never been "rich". And now you release a new affiliate program with several all exclusive sites, fresh designs, affiliate software, etc. I'm not stupid. I know how expensive that is.

On top of that you're offering PPS from the start. I don't care about your history. I don't care who you know. But I do care that you can afford to pay out on PPS and I do care that you know how to make a PPS program profitable so you don't pull another X-Bang Cash.

Furthermore, I know of at least 3 different boards you have skinned right now. That is expensive as shit. I'm willing to bet at least $50k.

Now... if you want to keep things private, thats your schtick, but people are going to wonder why and they are going to be suspicious. Right now I have a couple people on ICQ telling me they are leary of Rage Cash for the exact reasons I mentioned above.

Airek this is our traffic. This is our money. We want to know who we're doing business with just the same as you want to know who's sending you traffic.

I would feel MUCH better knowing who else is involved, so would several other people I know. But thats your call. I know everyone else I send traffic to.

[Doctor Dre]

Airek is obviously a partner... No rep would put that much work into a program unless he's a partner ... anyways ... from what I've seen he's a stand up guy ...

And Mr Thumbs, lots of programsa are backed by a couple guys ... do you see their names all over ?

[seeric]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

bottom line is rage has great people behind it, and it kills people so much that they can't know everything, that they have to resort to politician level "diss threads" to try and get what they want.

bottom line3. jumping to conclusions is the way of the board poster. you have no liablilty at all. you can say what you like to discredit things all you want, but you never have to post proof. all i am saying is for once, come out the dark place, everything launched isn't a scam. i have nothing to defend. webmasterrs are happy. conversions are great. and soon, you'll see, rage is no joke. just wait till the checks start showing up.

nothing personal.

[Sly]

Oh by the way, I'm not "hating". Rage Cash looks pretty good, some nice sites. I do plan on sending a little traffic shortly. I would be a bad affiliate and businessman if I didn't have the concerns I mentioned above.

[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

And Mr Thumbs, lots of programsa are backed by a couple guys ... do you see their names all over ?

Well...at least i dont see their reps get offended when i ask who they are

The thing that i find interesting about the whole ragecash thing:
Usually we have programs.. new programs that pretend to be big and well-backed but end up being ran by an idiot from his bedroom.

This seems to be the other way around and why if a program is backed by 'good people' like Airek said we are not allowed to know who those persons are? Unless you have something bad to hide i cant think of 1 reason why that information shouldnt be public.

[Sly]

I'm going to watch a movie. There's no drama, simply concerns. Everything I've mentioned has been mentioned to me by others, people have been wondering, just afraid to say it I guess.

Don't shoot the messenger.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by Sly

Six months ago you were working for another company, yes?

so, can you tell me who the san francisco forty niners are trading next season? what goes on behind the scenes should be public now? lol. do think when bill gates goes to steal on of steve jobs highest ranking employees, that he says it so in public. come on now. lol. if you've been around longer than two years, you know how fast, and at what level this business operates. people move around alot, until they find something worth keeping. get it? like i said, i don't blame you for pulling the trigger, you don't know me, hopefully one day you will.

that really is it, i'm tired.

[seeric]

like i was saying fellas, nothing personal, and please don't take my words the wrong way. i am more than willing to meet and discuss what i may need to with anyone. gfy is not the boardroom. too many trolls and public here now for me to be willing to talk about business at the highest level. is just not an option.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

so, can you tell me who the san francisco forty niners are trading next season? what goes on behind the scenes should be public now? lol. do think when bill gates goes to steal on of steve jobs highest ranking employees, that he says it so in public. come on now. lol. if you've been around longer than two years, you know how fast, and at what level this business operates. people move around alot, until they find something worth keeping. get it? like i said, i don't blame you for pulling the trigger, you don't know me, hopefully one day you will.

that really is it, i'm tired.

My point was, someone with a quarter million dollars doesn't work for other companies nor does he live in an apartment in Hermosa Beach.

I have been around for more than 2 years, thank you. And I also know why people bounce from company to company, we can sugar coat if you would like but I think we all deep down know why. Besides, I never said you bounced around and that isn't even an issue at hand.

You're taking this too personally. I'm not doubting your skills or your work ethic. I don't know you in order to do that. I'm simply curious about the people behind Rage Cash, as I should. How can you not understand why that is a concern?

[seeric]

Originally Posted by Sly

Oh by the way, I'm not "hating". Rage Cash looks pretty good, some nice sites. I do plan on sending a little traffic shortly. I would be a bad affiliate and businessman if I didn't have the concerns I mentioned above.

i agree. you just have to understand, smart companies are never going to publicly discuss their most intimate details on a public message board, populated with thousands of "just anybodies". there are people from the public, surfers, trolls, sheeps, law enforcement, public action groups, news media, jsut about anyone. associating one company with another, by mere fact that both companies started with alot of money is like saying two brothers or two sisters should act exactly alike. i don't know about you, but my brothers are nothing like me. 10000000% different. thats all i'm saying.

[killerkay]

this got interesting quick

[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

iyou just have to understand, smart companies are never going to publicly discuss their most intimate details on a public message board, populated with thousands of "just anybodies".

Were not asking for the amount of signups ragecash is doing per day.

We are simply asking with who we would be doing business if we sent
traffic to ragecash.

Again: thats NOT an intimate detail. Specailly for smart companies. Unless you have somethingh to hide.

Its that simple.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by Sly

My point was, someone with a quarter million dollars doesn't work for other companies nor does he live in an apartment in Hermosa Beach.

I have been around for more than 2 years, thank you. And I also know why people bounce from company to company, we can sugar coat if you would like but I think we all deep down know why. Besides, I never said you bounced around and that isn't even an issue at hand.

You're taking this too personally. I'm not doubting your skills or your work ethic. I don't know you in order to do that. I'm simply curious about the people behind Rage Cash, as I should. How can you not understand why that is a concern?

i am not the money behind ragecash.

i have money, but i am not a materialistic person actually.

[Mr. Hollywood]

All I know is rage cash has skinned every adult board known to man. That tells me they got money! Who cares who owns what A1R3K is here to help you thats all that matters.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by mrthumbs

Were not asking for the amount of signups ragecash is doing per day.

We are simply asking with who we would be doing business if we sent
traffic to ragecash.

Again: thats NOT an intimate detail. Specailly for smart companies. Unless you have somethingh to hide.

Its that simple.

see any othr thread i wrote here for the answer to this question. i've nothing to hide. find one who says i do. once again, please accept my reply as a public reply to a public request. looking forward to meeting you one day.

[fatal attraction]

Originally Posted by mrthumbs

Ill be on icq in an hour or so, you sohuld go to bed early tho!

the 15th is on my mind, dont worry ;)

I should still be up!

[lloyd]

Originally Posted by Sly

Extreme Pay Checks is behind it. They'll deny it and people will say A1R3K is the owner but think about it for just 5 seconds and you'll see why that makes absolutely no sense.

Heh or they won't even deny it. I don't see the big deal anyways.

[BellaSeaira]

Originally Posted by Mr. Hollywood

All I know is rage cash has skinned every adult board known to man. That tells me they got money! Who cares who owns what A1R3K is here to help you thats all that matters.

I tend to agree with Mr.Hollywood on this. I sined up and have had no problems. I think what Mr.thumbs is worried about is taking a risk on something that he does not know all about. I feel that that is what this industry is all about mr.thumbs. For example if you shoot pics of a new girl, or put new content on your site you don't know how she wil do you take a risk on her. When you see something good you have to decide if the risk is worth it or not and go from there. If you are that unsure wait a little bit and see how Ragecash does I have faith is a1r3k and think the program is kick ass(my opinion)

Bella-Seaira

[fatal attraction]

Originally Posted by Mr. Hollywood

All I know is rage cash has skinned every adult board known to man. That tells me they got money! Who cares who owns what A1R3K is here to help you thats all that matters.

And you've been around since Aug.???? There are really some old school people in this thread

[lazzlo]

Your doing a good job airek. Thanks for the help on icq earlier.

[xxxice]

What is the big deal why not say who owns the company?

[bdld]

it seems shady to me.

[RogerV]

Does anyone know who really owns Bang bros, yet everyone still send to them. and many others. Please don't take this personal but many program owners are very much behind the scenes

Airek has a stake in it and is the face to the company like many other programs out there. I'm sure the guys behind it have the money lets just call it a hunch

To target just them is not right

Most programs barely have an email to contact the owners yet webmasters will still send to them.
since when is there loyalty in this biz I put all my info out there and I feel I'm very much part of this community and industry as I feel Airek is as well.

Just a little advise anyone can fuck you in biz at anytime.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by mrthumbs

Well...at least i dont see their reps get offended when i ask who they are

The thing that i find interesting about the whole ragecash thing:
Usually we have programs.. new programs that pretend to be big and well-backed but end up being ran by an idiot from his bedroom.

This seems to be the other way around and why if a program is backed by 'good people' like Airek said we are not allowed to know who those persons are? Unless you have something bad to hide i cant think of 1 reason why that information shouldnt be public.

Very simple many programs are backed by the same business men why you ask so they can compete with eachother for lateral marketing.

lets just say the guys who started this biz will continue to keep a strong grasp of it.

[phonesex]

The bottom line should be promote them, it they convert for you and you are making money who gives a shit who is behind the company. Trust me, I've been burned big time from companies I've worked with for years, spoke with them on weekly basis, and have visited their office.

Programs will come and go. You'll definately know about it on these type of boards of who is fucking who over. Thats how this biz is. I've been promoting since 1997 so I've had my fair share of being ripped off.

[RogerV]

Originally Posted by phonesex

The bottom line should be promote them, it they convert for you and you are making money who gives a shit who is behind the company. Trust me, I've been burned big time from companies I've worked with for years, spoke with them on weekly basis, and have visited their office.

Programs will come and go. You'll definately know about it on these type of boards of who is fucking who over. Thats how this biz is. I've been promoting since 1997 so I've had my fair share of being ripped off.

no shit lol gfy gets the news before cnn sometimes. you can't fuck people in the biz so easy with the internet around. its the information highway

[SomeCreep]

Originally Posted by RogerV

Does anyone know who really owns Bang bros

Yes.

Many times the owner, or co-owner is the person who signs the checks.

[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by RogerV

no shit lol gfy gets the news before cnn sometimes. you can't fuck people in the biz so easy with the internet around. its the information highway

Really? this thread has been up for a few hours and nobody seems to know who the fucking owners of a simple program are.

Im quite aware that the risk of being fucked over isnt increasing or decreasing with the owners of the program being anonymous.

Its just that IF i get fucked id LIKE to know whos fucking me...?

I find it very disturbing webmasters dont really seem to care who they are doing business with as long as they get paid. Thats very stupid for many reasons.