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Old 08-18-2005, 05:53 PM   #1
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I hate to say it, but PS3 is going down...

There has been a few threads about the new consoles, so I thought I'd make another one. XBOX360 is getting out 5 months before PS3, and 100$ cheaper. By the time the ps3 is out, and the fact that XBOX will want to make more competition, its probably going to go another 50 or 100$ cheaper, making it 200 vs400$, not to mention most people will only buy one console, and the xbox is cheaper and getting out almost half a year sooner. I think SONY will lose big time to xbox this time, as far as money goes. Maybe the games will be better on ps3, but the average guy wont wait that long to pay twice the price. This is my logic, but I know its still too soon.
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:06 PM   #2
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Sony PS has loyal fans....I can't believe there are people out there that think XBOX won the last console battle

PS2 sold 5x as many consoles had a huge game library worldwide in comparison. Nobody can argue that the XBOX had slightly better graphics....but a lack of some key games and one of the world controllers ever just was too much to overcome.


It will be interesting with this new war. Its a bit of a role reversal...

XBOX has first mover advantage....and this time sony will be the 2nd to come out but with more powerful hardware. I just tend to think that those that owned a PS2 instead of XBOX (which is TON) ...will just be like..."new xbox...cool but when does ps3 come out).

The only thing that can mess it up for Sony in my opinion is if their system is not superior to xbox....then xbox's first mover advantage will blow them out of the water.

Microsoft did a great job...but they wont compete unless sony fucks up til the next generation (ps4...xbox720? )

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Old 08-18-2005, 06:09 PM   #3
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Once again, the xbox and playstation will be close enough in features that the only thing that will matter is the game library. If there hadn't been a Halo, there wouldn't even be an xbox360.
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:10 PM   #4
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:22 PM   #5
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The XBox is going to have a strong lead but i'll be getting both and don't count microsoft out they have a lot more money to burn.
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:26 PM   #6
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Do you think Sony hasnt planned for XBOX's early shipment? I think they know more about the situation than you. Given their track record, I'd say they know whats up.

P.S. PS3 will own xbox360
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:28 PM   #7
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:31 PM   #8
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Xbox 360 is $100 less that ps3? Seriously, i wont buy an xbox even if its $100 less that ps3. I need my GTA!!~!~!

It could be a mistake putting xbox 360 $100 less that ps3.


Gamecube was $100 less that ps2 or xbox. What happened there?
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:50 PM   #9
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The nintendo revolution will be the next best console on the market, just watch!
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Old 08-18-2005, 06:52 PM   #10
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:24 PM   #11
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This time M$ stands a chance against sony and nintendo, but being first to market is just a part of it, on the US front it's a no brainer with halo 3 and EA sports titles and xbox live, but also they have secured a lot of launch titles, some of them even attractive for the Japanese market that has ignored the xbox completely in the past, they'll have ridge racer, lots of RPGs (one by akira toriyama/dragon ball) a nice osaka-designed case (seems like no big deal but it IS for the jap market) in short, LOTS of support from third party developers that will put out some good launch titles.
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:30 PM   #12
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Like millions of other people out there i will be buying both.
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:54 PM   #13
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the first console to launch in a generation has never won a console war. The turbographics 16, the sega saturn, and the sega dreamcast, are all prime examples.

history says the odds are against the xbox360. a consoles average market lifespan is 5 years...makes you wonder if its being rushed to market when the original xbox is only 4 years old. not to mention that NO launch games have been annouced...
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:17 PM   #14
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Sony PS has loyal fans....I can't believe there are people out there that think XBOX won the last console battle

PS2 sold 5x as many consoles had a huge game library worldwide in comparison. Nobody can argue that the XBOX had slightly better graphics....but a lack of some key games and one of the world controllers ever just was too much to overcome.
"slightly better graphics"? wake up will you...lol

"lack of some key games" -> bullshit....

"worst controllers ever" -> bullshit part III, btw what do you think about the new super-duper controller of the PS3?..sorry but that takes the prize when it comes to non-functional controllers

The Xbox controller was only bad if you had mini-barbie hands

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Old 08-18-2005, 08:19 PM   #15
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the first console to launch in a generation has never won a console war. The turbographics 16, the sega saturn, and the sega dreamcast, are all prime examples.
Playstation2....


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history says the odds are against the xbox360. a consoles average market lifespan is 5 years...makes you wonder if its being rushed to market when the original xbox is only 4 years old. not to mention that NO launch games have been annouced...
Just because you don't know doesn't mean they don't exist...maybe you should research before talking out of your ass ;)
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:44 PM   #16
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Xbox 360 is $100 less that ps3? Seriously, i wont buy an xbox even if its $100 less that ps3. I need my GTA!!~!~!

It could be a mistake putting xbox 360 $100 less that ps3.


Gamecube was $100 less that ps2 or xbox. What happened there?
Correct me if I'm wrong but gamecube sold more units then xbox in the end ... I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:46 PM   #17
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Xbox 360 is $100 less that ps3? Seriously, i wont buy an xbox even if its $100 less that ps3. I need my GTA!!~!~!

It could be a mistake putting xbox 360 $100 less that ps3.


Gamecube was $100 less that ps2 or xbox. What happened there?

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xbos have better graphics than ps2, but ps2 have better games and you can make copys easily too..
also, i love "sony".
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:53 PM   #21
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ps2 killed xbox in sales...probably gonna happen again
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:58 PM   #22
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:09 PM   #23
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There has been a few threads about the new consoles, so I thought I'd make another one. XBOX360 is getting out 5 months before PS3, and 100$ cheaper. By the time the ps3 is out, and the fact that XBOX will want to make more competition, its probably going to go another 50 or 100$ cheaper, making it 200 vs400$, not to mention most people will only buy one console, and the xbox is cheaper and getting out almost half a year sooner. I think SONY will lose big time to xbox this time, as far as money goes. Maybe the games will be better on ps3, but the average guy wont wait that long to pay twice the price. This is my logic, but I know its still too soon.
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:52 PM   #24
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The nintendo revolution will be the next best console on the market, just watch!
OK Revolution is only slightly more than 2 twice as powerful as a PS2, XBOX 360 15 times, PS3 35 times. Think again. Revolution will nothing more than the equivalent of a slightly more advanced ps2. If it cost less than $200 it will sell to those with kids under 8 and pokemon/mario fans. As soon as XBOX 360 comes out XBOX will drop to $100 then so will PS2. So if you own a gamecube and you want better system and you are cheap then just get a XBOX or PS2 instead once the prices drop. They have just now in the last year stop making PS1 games so XBOX and PS2 games will still be made for another 4 years.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:00 PM   #25
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:04 PM   #26
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whether ps3 will rule or not, their PSP is a sure winner.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:08 PM   #27
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X-Box has outsold PS2 over the last year and a half or so. PS2 got a huuuuggge head start and the higher powered x-box took awhile to catch on.

Expect the same thing this time around but with the roles reversed. X-Box will win at first...but PS3 will outlast.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:27 PM   #28
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Here are some surprising XBOX vs DREAMCAST figures... yes, I said Dreamcast

Dreamcast Japan Unit Sales
1. Sonic Adventure - 438,707
2. Resident Evil Code: Veronica - 403,964
3. Seaman - 396,191
4. Sega Rally 2 - 374,885
5. Shenmue - 326,222
6. Virtua Fighter 3 - 308,707
7. Sakura Taisen 3 - 304,134
8. Soul Calibur - 288,604
9. Let's Make A Pro Soccer Club - 274,619
10. Sakura Taisen 4 - 257,386

Xbox Japan Unit Sales (as of Dec 12, 2004)
1. Dead or Alive 3 - 217,149
2. Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball - 127,576
3. Halo - 76,963
4. Dead or Alive Ultimate - 60,098
5. Ninja Gaiden - 56,544
6. Murakumo - 52,436
7. Genma Onimusha - 49,990
8. Panzer Dragoon Orta - 43,850
9. Shin Megami Tensei Nine - 42,920
10. Project Gotham Racing - 41,751

Japan Estimated Hardware Sales (End of 2004)
Dreamcast = 2.5 Million (3 Million Asia)
Xbox = 0.5 Million (1.7 Million Asia)

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Old 08-18-2005, 11:38 PM   #29
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Playstation has such a fan base it can't lose. The new PS3 has so many features it's scary. There's more computer power in this new PS3 than NASA has had prior to 1995.

SONY makes shitty computers but everything else they make lasts like a muhfuh.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:41 PM   #30
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I just bought Tiger Woods' PGA Tour 2005 and Outlaw Golf. Outlaw Golf is a fucking riot. Easy to play and awesome. PGATour is awesome also. But Spider-Man 2 just fuckin' blew me away. I cannot get enough of that game. I have all but maxed it out and I still have tons of shit to do. The game won't fucking end! It's my idea of a great game. I can't imagine what Spidey 3 will be like. Oddworld is another masterpiece but they went exclusive to XBox after twice on PS. I hated that shit and have boycotted that game line ever since. Brilliant, brilliant game but that switchover ate ass.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:43 PM   #31
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:-) Sega Dreamcast is still my favorite console.. the games rock!
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:50 AM   #32
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Both consoles have great exclusive franchise titles that are only playable on their system.

They both win, because the majority of us who aren't 12, and don't "root" for one console over another don't give a shit who "wins" and will just buy both.

lol, kids.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:57 AM   #33
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well ps3 will ste be strong .. sony has a bunch of fans!

i haven't played anything on the ps2 in years .. only thing i've played was Tekken 5 few months ago.

but i'll still buy the ps3
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PS3 will blow Xbitch out of the water, just like they do each and every time. Nothing will change. The fact that Xbox comes out first is an advantage to PS3... it can advertise against it's weaknesses, can see what people don't like about it and improve theirs, etc, etc, etc....
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Official PS3 Specs

Here are the official technical specifications for the PS3, taken directly from Sony:

CPU
Cell Processor
PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU
RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines

Sound
Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell- base processing)
Memory
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz

System Bandwidth
Main RAM 25.6GB/s
VRAM 22.4GB/s
RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB< 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)

System Floating Point Performance
2 TFLOPS

Storage
Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1

I/O
USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1

Communication
Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)

Controller
Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)

AV Output
Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1

Disc Media
CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE
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Official PS3 Specs

Here are the official technical specifications for the PS3, taken directly from Sony:

CPU
Cell Processor
PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU
RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines

Sound
Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell- base processing)
Memory
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz

System Bandwidth
Main RAM 25.6GB/s
VRAM 22.4GB/s
RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB< 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)

System Floating Point Performance
2 TFLOPS

Storage
Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1

I/O
USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1

Communication
Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)

Controller
Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)

AV Output
Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1

Disc Media
CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE

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Correct me if I'm wrong but gamecube sold more units then xbox in the end ... I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere
You are wrong...check the latest reports on it

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PS3 will blow Xbitch out of the water, just like they do each and every time. Nothing will change. The fact that Xbox comes out first is an advantage to PS3... it can advertise against it's weaknesses, can see what people don't like about it and improve theirs, etc, etc, etc....
Yeah rigth...coming out first isn't an advantage...some of you guys crack me up...seriously...
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:17 AM   #41
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There has been a few threads about the new consoles, so I thought I'd make another one. XBOX360 is getting out 5 months before PS3, and 100$ cheaper. By the time the ps3 is out, and the fact that XBOX will want to make more competition, its probably going to go another 50 or 100$ cheaper, making it 200 vs400$, not to mention most people will only buy one console, and the xbox is cheaper and getting out almost half a year sooner. I think SONY will lose big time to xbox this time, as far as money goes. Maybe the games will be better on ps3, but the average guy wont wait that long to pay twice the price. This is my logic, but I know its still too soon.
Im afraid I disagree, I personally would wait a whole year longer for the PS3. I've never got along with the Xbox and its lack of good games. PS3 will be a far superior machine and the games will be amazing (any one seen the video trailers for Killzone 2?) Good things come to those who wait....
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:23 AM   #42
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Im afraid I disagree, I personally would wait a whole year longer for the PS3. I've never got along with the Xbox and its lack of good games. PS3 will be a far superior machine and the games will be amazing (any one seen the video trailers for Killzone 2?) Good things come to those who wait....
the developers admitted most of that trailer was pre-rendered so...

plus Sony likes to hype the living shit out of their stuff, example: Emotion Engine for PS2 anybody?

Acording to Sony PS2 would be able to make games with gfx as good as PSX Final Fantasy FMV sequences...
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:28 AM   #43
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:29 AM   #44
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PS3 Games will BLOW Xbox games out of the freaking water. Xbox will only play Dual Layer DVD (9 gigs) while PS3 uses the Blu-ray format (54 Gigs).
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:33 AM   #45
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Yeah rigth...coming out first isn't an advantage...some of you guys crack me up...seriously...
It's called "First-mover advantage" and it's not always an advantage... take a fucking advertising class or two before you decide to talk about what you do not know.

Bottom line will be the games, and I am pretty sure with 54 GB to work with, compared to the measely 9 GB on the Xbox, PS3 games will kick ass.
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:21 AM   #46
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It's called "First-mover advantage" and it's not always an advantage... take a fucking advertising class or two before you decide to talk about what you do not know.

Bottom line will be the games, and I am pretty sure with 54 GB to work with, compared to the measely 9 GB on the Xbox, PS3 games will kick ass.
LOL you work for Sony Marketing dep?

You really need to buy yourself a clue...
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:27 AM   #47
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:43 AM   #48
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I have absolutely no opinion, I still don't own an xbox or a ps2 I play computer games, and I still beleive my PC is faster than any console

My absolute favorite video game on a console is
"Perfect Dark"
It came out for the N64 I beleive, anyone heard of another perfect Dark?

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Old 08-19-2005, 05:43 AM   #49
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:50 AM   #50
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Personally I can't wait for Pro Evolution Soccer 5, PES 4 is still the best football game ever and possibly the best game of all time..
Others include GTA and Burnout and Gran Turismo 4..
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