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Old 08-19-2005, 02:35 AM   #1
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Illegal immigrants sue Arizona rancher for assault -- win his land.

Now THAT, my friends, is ownage.

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Two Illegal Immigrants Win Arizona Ranch in Court Fight
By ANDREW POLLACK
Published: August 19, 2005

DOUGLAS, Ariz., Aug. 18 - Spent shells litter the ground at what is left of the firing range, and camouflage outfits still hang in a storeroom. Just a few months ago, this ranch was known as Camp Thunderbird, the headquarters of a paramilitary group that promised to use force to keep illegal immigrants from sneaking across the border with Mexico.

Now, in a turnabout, the 70-acre property about two miles from the border is being given to two immigrants whom the group caught trying to enter the United States illegally.

The land transfer is being made to satisfy judgments in a lawsuit in which the immigrants had said that Casey Nethercott, the owner of the ranch and a former leader of the vigilante group Ranch Rescue, had harmed them.

"Certainly it's poetic justice that these undocumented workers own this land," said Morris S. Dees Jr., co-founder and chief trial counsel of the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, Ala., which represented the immigrants in their lawsuit.

Mr. Dees said the loss of the ranch would "send a pretty important message to those who come to the border to use violence."

Bill Dore, a Douglas resident briefly affiliated with Ranch Rescue who is still active in the border-patrolling Minuteman Project, called the land transfer "ridiculous."

"The illegals are coming over here," Mr. Dore said. "They are getting the American property. Hell, I'd come over, too. Get some American property, make some money from the gringos."

The immigrants getting the ranch, Edwin Alfredo Mancía Gonzáles and Fátima del Socorro Leiva Medina, could not be reached for comment. Kelley Bruner, a lawyer at the law center, said they did not want to speak to the news media but were happy with the outcome.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:36 AM   #2
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unbelievable....
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:37 AM   #3
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shit like this will make even Americans start hating Americans
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:37 AM   #4
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:38 AM   #5
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:39 AM   #6
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.. what the fuck.. i didnt just read this.. im not even going to comment.. jesus fucking christ.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:41 AM   #7
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Umm.. now, that's weird.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:42 AM   #8
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My god.. unfucking real
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:42 AM   #9
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Why the hell would anyone shoot to kill someone that just wants a better life???
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:45 AM   #10
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Why stop there, why not just give that 70-acre chunk of Arizona back to Mexico and be done with it?
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:47 AM   #11
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Why the hell would anyone shoot to kill someone that just wants a better life???
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:47 AM   #12
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Why stop there, why not just give that 70-acre chunk of Arizona back to Mexico and be done with it?
as the man said, it's poetic justice. the sooner the illegals take over, the better. collectively, they'll give birth to one more wide-arching slum, and then they'll be forced to live in it for all time.
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shit like this will make even Americans start hating Americans

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Old 08-19-2005, 02:49 AM   #14
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well.. if you're going to be punished for a crime according to a country's laws then to be compensated as a victim of crime according to that country's laws is only even-handed even if it seems ridiculous.
(yes even though border jumping is in itself illegal.. like being hit and runover whilst carrying an illegally concealed firearm or pot or something would still leave the driver open to compensation.)
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:51 AM   #15
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You know someone uninvited on your land can sue if they trip on a rake or something right? like fucking jehovas breaking a leg or something. Stupid but true.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:56 AM   #16
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Maybe if they had not been here illegally, then they would not have been traumatized.
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Why the hell would anyone shoot to kill someone that just wants a better life???
- Two illegal aliens were trespassing on a ranch in Texas.

- The ranch owner and his friends apprehend the illegal aliens.

- They give the illegal aliens "cookies, water and a blanket and let them go after an hour or so"

- There was an alleged pistol whipping charge, but the jury deadlocked on this issue, so it can't be used in the judgement.

- Result: Illegal aliens win $100,000 from Mr. Sutton, $850,000 from Mr. Nethercott, and $500,000 from Mr. Foote. As part of the judgement, the illegal aliens get Mr. Nethercott's ranch in Arizona.

Seems like a ridiculous judgement.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:59 AM   #18
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another shitty incident in court.
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- They give the illegal aliens "cookies, water and a blanket and let them go after an hour or so".
WTF!! thats some expensive motherfucking cookies. what the hell is "a paramilitary group that promised to use force to keep illegal immigrants from sneaking across the border with Mexico. " doing giving them cookies?
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That's just going to encourage more illegal immigration.
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- Two illegal aliens were trespassing on a ranch in Texas.

- The ranch owner and his friends apprehend the illegal aliens.

- They give the illegal aliens "cookies, water and a blanket and let them go after an hour or so"

- There was an alleged pistol whipping charge, but the jury deadlocked on this issue, so it can't be used in the judgement.

- Result: Illegal aliens win $100,000 from Mr. Sutton, $850,000 from Mr. Nethercott, and $500,000 from Mr. Foote. As part of the judgement, the illegal aliens get Mr. Nethercott's ranch in Arizona.

Seems like a ridiculous judgement.
Canada is a p[erfect place for Migrants.
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:08 AM   #22
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The guy was a serious nutcase in anycase... some people have nothing better to do than spread their hatred.
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You know someone uninvited on your land can sue if they trip on a rake or something right? like fucking jehovas breaking a leg or something. Stupid but true.
That has to be one of the Top 10 dumbest legal concepts out there, but yes you're right.....unfortunately.
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