With only 2 months of excersize you could be doing that as well with the brand new Jesus-Pennis-Pump proven to work without leaving too big marks :thumbsup

Fantasyman and Brad Shaw, it amazes me how you come into a thread about a counter and their payments, and turn it into a spam for your programs??....and then start a piss match with Kimmy babe...you both need a good bitch slap....
Things that make you go hummmmmm:321GFY

No offense...

But a word is a word doesn't really make sense. The definition of "lolita" is a seductive adolescent girl. That's underage.

What would anyone think about Bob's World of Underage Girls or Bob's World Of Sexy Adolescent Chicks even if it only contained 18 year olds who looked 13 and were dressed up like 13 year olds, or actual underage girls in "artistic" and "tasteful" poses.

But if you change the name of that site to Bob's Lolitas, it's suddenly okay? Doesn't make sense to me.

:2 cents:

Keep the change. :winkwink:

That's half the teen sites out there. ;)

There are some things in the works with the cc's that may soon end all the controversy over words and or images that goes on.

Our policy is pretty simple. You send the url to the pages on any sites we bill for who have underage girls without their clothes on, or claim to, and we'll request documentation or ask them to remove the images.

Yes, there are a few bad apples who continue to screw around with us, always taking stuff down and then it reappears on another .html extension a week later. I'm not going to go into any debates on right, wrong and legal, I'm simply telling you what our particular policy is. Whether it's like other billing co's or not, I don't know since I don't work at any other billing companies.

KimmyKim

That's a flat lie. I've told you many times about http://Lolitasex.com - here are the metas and this is a site with nudity

lolita, lolitas, nude teenage girls, naked teenage girls, naked teens, naked young girls, teen nudism, teenage nudism, young teens, underage, under age, under-age, underage models, under age models, under-age models, underage girls, under age girls, under-age girls, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 year old, junior high, little girls, under 18, amateur teens, amateur girls, amateur teenage girls, amateurs, amateur models

So go spin your bullshit somewhere else.

And as far as billing folks who think they're getting a free trial - go check out

http://www.teenage-movies.com/

or

http://privatel.tv/popup.html - at the top of this page it says

"This month only. 1 week free membership"

Then in the CCBill terms & conditions it says

"FREE BONUS WEEK TERMS AND CONDITIONS
* This transaction will be discretely billed as a purchase from CCbill.com This is not a free trial membership, but is a special offer. A free week membership with the purchase of a full month membership to Privatel.tv at $34.95. So in lamin terms this means you will receive 37 days for the price of 30. By entering into this site you agree to access materials for your personal, private use only and that you will not, under any circumstance, permit viewing of contents by minors or non-consenting adults.* For your convenience All memberships to www.privatel.tv automatically re-bill every thirty days at a monthly rate of thirty-four dollars and ninety-five cents by CCBill.com and will do so until you request to cancel. "

If it's a free bonus week why is it advertised as 1 week free membership?

So KimmyKim - please explain this away........

Askmomma - I didn't start the piss - why don't you go back and look at the order in which the posts were made.... :cool-as-a

FM is just too easy to bait these days, it almost takes the fun out of it. Way too predictable.

If I get married, can I get a cable descrambler as a gift from you?

Brad if you get married, you can get a Boogie Bass from me.. :)


http://www.onlineplaza.net/boogiebass.htm


-KC

Billy really seems to enjoy his Boogie Bass.

Brad I think you'd be better off with a script of Viagra from our Viagra site.

Also, watch for our next new program coming out, you can make fun of that one too :)

Brad's been cheating on me with FM? Damn, I'm crushed.

Good ol' Martin (thread starter) is going to win himself a DVD player if we're not careful ;)

KK, what can I say, I was trying to get a free cable descrambler from FM. But I guess I had performance anxiety.

No response to my prior post KimmyKim - yeah, I didn't think you could spin that one away...................

....and no, I wouldn't mess with Brad - I'll just let him keep getting on you - I'm afraid he would crush me with all that weight :) ahahaha lol

FM, you were looking quite plump in Vegas, I would bet I am tipping the scales less than you these days;-)

And where do you buy those shirts????? ;-)

C'mon Ron, if you need to troll for business that badly, keep on hammering away at us. *We've* not allowed anyone that bills with us to pass a cc number on to another company entirely and charge anyone again.

I'm wondering tho... if you look down, can you see your feet?

Oh yeah, well...

MY DAD COULD KICK ALL YOUR DAD'S ASSES PUT TOGETHER!

KC - I've seen your dad.. my dead grandmother could kick his ass.

KC, maybe FM is bitter and feels left out because he does not have a Marsh Ninja fishing uniform. The light blue one is very slimming I must say!

Yeah and I was just trying to bust your chops a little KC. Who knew the shit would fly..

Carry on :)

hahahah!!!!


Everyone's jealous of the light blue fishing uniforms!!!! :)

12 Clicks told me that he really really really wanted one too..

So you're all frontin' and nobody wants to back down, but who makes the most $$$ here? :winkwink:

Martin -

Next time can you please make the subject something like....

"God Damn, I love Pay Counter!!"

then bust my chops inside the thread ;) lol

That's easy, the guys with the light blue fishing uniforms... ;')

"Who makes the most money here?"


What, you guys make money???? :)

I think I've got 15c in my PayCounter account.
Please send a check ;)

I do love Pay Counter been using it from day 1. I just wanted you to Show Me The Money..hehe...

Peace

Don't expect to make money by sending untargeted traffic to a counter... you might as well be sending lolita traffic to JesusCash...

Pay Counter pays me in lap dances. But I am not sure if that feature is out of beta yet.

It has nothing to do with me looking for business. These two items are bad for our entire industry and you can't say CCBill is not doing it because they are, I repeat

http://Lolitasex.com - here are the metas and this is a site with nudity

lolita, lolitas, nude teenage girls, naked teenage girls, naked teens, naked young girls, teen nudism, teenage nudism, young teens, underage, under age, under-age, underage models, under age models, under-age models, underage girls, under age girls, under-age girls, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 year old, junior high, little girls, under 18, amateur teens, amateur girls, amateur teenage girls, amateurs, amateur models

And as far as billing folks who think they're getting a free trial - go check out

http://www.teenage-movies.com/

or

http://privatel.tv/popup.html - at the top of this page it says

"This month only. 1 week free membership"

Then in the CCBill terms & conditions it says

"FREE BONUS WEEK TERMS AND CONDITIONS
* This transaction will be discretely billed as a purchase from CCbill.com This is not a free trial membership, but is a special offer. A free week membership with the purchase of a full month membership to Privatel.tv at $34.95. So in lamin terms this means you will receive 37 days for the price of 30. By entering into this site you agree to access materials for your personal, private use only and that you will not, under any circumstance, permit viewing of contents by minors or non-consenting adults.* For your convenience All memberships to www.privatel.tv automatically re-bill every thirty days at a monthly rate of thirty-four dollars and ninety-five cents by CCBill.com and will do so until you request to cancel. "

If it's a free bonus week why is it advertised as 1 week free membership?

...and before you keep accusing us of cross billing - please show me proof as I have shown you above......

And we wonder why Visa keeps slamming our balls in a drawer over chargebacks.
FM's free trial is really free, and easier than shit to cancel....too bad everyone can't do biz that way.

As far as the CP shit, there is a difference between "illegal" and "totally fucking tasteless and immoral" and until the law changes that shit won't go away :(

Honestly I don't care about any of this, I just want someone I know to win the DVD......LOL

You are repeating yourself why Ron? If you can't think of anything else to say you could at least answer my feet question. ;)))

Dam, think I have made 7 posts today, of which Lensman has not changed any of them yet! This is a personal record.

I think FM invented the cross bill. I remember the old days where when you joined CE, you were also "given" a CEN membership. Much like the old Xpics, you have won a membership scheme.


As recent as a few months ago, they were doing it with Silver Cash, until VISA axed posting. Not saying it is illegal, it was just done in a sneaky manner and IMHO was deceptive in nature.

only repeating because you won't answer - but everyone who reads this is seeing that you're not answering, that you're skirting the issues because they're both true and there is no way for you to explain it away :)

have a nice day! :)

Sorry Ron, I'm not wearing a skirt today. I read your post, you apparently have your proof of whatever it is you are trying to prove. Of course in the meantime trying to take personal shots at me or anyone else on this thread shows the level of maturity that a man of your years can achieve if you work really hard at it. But then again your entry into this thread, as already mentioned previously, should have been an indication of how you'd act for the duration.

wow!

it's like a pissing superstardom match... where's serge?

hahaha...

oh man... it MUST be a monday ;-)))

Conversion Cash Baby!!!

PS... Lens.. the system doesnt seem to be parsing url's properly.

Serge is patiently watching from the sidelines...

He's not quite ready to make an entrance... give him another hour or two ;)


Pornoman on the other hand should be here any minute....

Serge? Right here -- http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=50587


pornoman? Are you sure he's not still upstairs at the OG in Vegas KC? ;)

I think he was trying to prove that CCBill processes for kp sites and/or sites that cater to pedophiles, as well as sites that practice deceptive billing. Both went unanswered unfortunately.

The deceptive billing can be argued. People should read the fine print (although I'm not a big fan of this type of selling since it does cause trouble for all of us in the end), but the meta tags and meta description on that site is unexcusable.

I'm not a lawyer and don't pretend to be, but I am genuinely curious about some things.

1) How can that site be legal? I don't care if all the models are legal (which I doubt they are, but don't know for sure). It's a site designed specifically to cater to pedophiles and people who are looking for pics of underage females.

2) Why would ccbill even want to be associated with a site like that? I know we're in the porn business, and we're not widely viewed as a bunch of ethical or moral people, but doesn't processing for these sites and enabling them to make money just help them continue operating and help to reinforce the image of us all as a bunch of sick KP peddlers?

Kimmy,

Chris had them bring a DS3 into Cheetah's and setup a wireless lan, so he can browse the web at 11Mb/s from his lapdances... so he really should be here anytime..

FM! how are ya?

Hmmm
I was watching the movie "Lolita" the other night...Dominique Swain played an underage character who engaged in sex and there was even a brief nude scene...since the movie starred Jeremy Irons (an Academy Award winning actor) does it give it more artistic merit than Bob's Lolita's? I guess sicne Jeremy Irons is a major Hollywood star and Bob is a fat shlub, Bob's fucked...

and what about "Titanic"? A 17 year old charcater removes her clothing for "an artistic drawing" and even engages in sex...

Anyone seen a "Porky's" movie? a lot of underage characters naked in the shower and having sex...

"At Play In The Fields Of The Lord" anyone..all sorts of nudity, even children...

what's legal and what's moral are often two different things...

while I'm not necessarily defending the child art sites, I just wonder about legal vs. moral sometimes...

holy crap, how did a thread started about a questin for paycounter become a "my porn is more moral than your porn" debate...

nevermind..I'm off to crawl back into my proverbial hole.....

have funs kids and remember...(check the quote in my sig ;)))

damn,these things didn't exist on lolitasex.com some time ago......

To get back to the original question and point of this thread, YES Pay Counter Rocks and does pay.

Now Kimmy Kim, I think you are avading Fantasy Mans question in regards to ccbill and Lolita sex???...
I do believe he has a very valid piont that deserves an answer, not another side step?? I'm not starting with you, it's just Ron brought up a very good point and I believe most of us would like to hear an answer??

This lolita crap is 1 of the shitty things in the business we are all in and you refuse to give a straight answer??.....Let's hear it without any side stepping??

KimmyKim these metas have been there for a long time - I've brought this to your attention many times before - it's obvious CCBill really doesn't care about it.

Rather than continue to try and beat me up and belittle me, why don't you tell us what you plan to do about it and all the other "lolita type sites" your company processes for. This brings a black eye to our entire industry.

fantasyman thanks for the plug. 32 new webmaster join my program in last few hours.


Your's truly
www.teenage-movies.com

nevermind

If you're not worried about the Department of Justice or the FTC coming down on you for deceptive advertising keep it up - but if you are concerned you should change it!!

IM not out to mislead people I make my special offer terms and conditions very clear by posting it in 2 different location on my join page. My charge backs and refunds are very low so I come to the conclusion that the surfer is viewing my special offer terms and conditions and they are not being mislead.

Now taking what you said in considering I am think about adding a third link to the special offer terms and conditions page to assist blind surfer.

Yours truly,
teenage-movies.com