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Paraskass · 09-30-2005, 11:02 PM

I suddenly see 4 chargebacks in a single day. Anybody else experience chargebacks with epic cash lately?

xclusive · 09-30-2005, 11:04 PM

ouch that is strange

High Quality · 09-30-2005, 11:05 PM

That is EXTREMELY high.

Paraskass · 09-30-2005, 11:06 PM

I know.

4 today!

and I don't get nearly as many signups as most of you!

I sent 6 joins this week and got 4 chargebacks.

OMG

Paraskass · 09-30-2005, 11:14 PM

I am looking at my stats...

in over 300 signups, I have gotten 0 chargebacks... then suddenly, these 4 in a single day.

fucking strange.

emthree · 09-30-2005, 11:16 PM

Probably fraud

phonesex · 09-30-2005, 11:22 PM

Most likely the same person did the fraud. So that is why there is so much in one day.

xxxice · 09-30-2005, 11:24 PM

Maybe it was a batch thing.

elitetec · 09-30-2005, 11:25 PM

some one really wanted some xxx

BIGTYMER · 09-30-2005, 11:25 PM

uh oh.

chupachups · 09-30-2005, 11:29 PM

Maybe thats why PimpDiddy is looking for an MA......

V_RocKs · 09-30-2005, 11:43 PM

That happened to me I think 2 months ago there. Strange because I don't send them much traffic anyways... Infact, I don't send them any anymore if I remember correctly and it was because I got 4 signups and 4 chargebacks in one month and decided its better not to promote them heavely...

adonthenet · 10-01-2005, 12:05 AM

oh shit they need to fix something probably

BrettJ · 10-01-2005, 12:05 AM

guys that's how cb's work. first - they are batched by the major banks...so all of a sudden one day you can get a bunch to come through.

The second thing - is .. you can send 10 sales and get 2 chargebacks...it doesn't mean EpicCash is doing anything wrong... or that you're necessarily doing anything wrong... sometimes random shit just happens that way. You want to have a low rate - but you could send 1 sale...and might be unfortunate enough to have that one turn into a cb

elitetec · 10-01-2005, 12:11 AM

lol yea i get all my upsells in one day one time i got 8 and the rest of the month i got 2 lol

Midget · 10-01-2005, 01:46 AM

That's either a batch or same guy charged back 4 months.

d00t · 10-01-2005, 02:52 AM

is epic still revoking money earned on chargebacks?

Manowar · 10-01-2005, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d00t

is epic still revoking money earned on chargebacks?

yes, they are

OldSchoolJim · 10-01-2005, 03:32 AM

Paraskass....Most likely it is due to a fraud issue....
If you want to shoot me your account name i will have a look and i can let you know...

Trent Edison · 10-01-2005, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paraskass

I sent 6 joins this week and got 4 chargebacks.
OMG

MikeVega · 10-01-2005, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2getit

Paraskass....Most likely it is due to a fraud issue....
If you want to shoot me your account name i will have a look and i can let you know...

I would guess fraud .. because that don't sound right ...

p1mpdogg · 10-01-2005, 02:04 PM

we have been passing along the chargeback buck for several reasons.

1. we get fined by the bank, why shouldnt you?
2. our % goes up, why should you get rewarded and we get scolded.
3. we only post cb's that have actually been charged back by the bank by the consumer with no recourse.
4. cb's can take upto 3-4 months to show up. so fuck your 6 sales, doesnt mean those 4 sales cb'd. it means they just happend to come in when you had a huge week with epcicash of making 6 lousy sales.
5. we deduct what we paid out. we dont fine you, we dont reward you. we take away what we lost when the case was proven to be FRAUD.

I will not budge on this, I will not take any further action other than to tell you sorry, if you do not like it, there are 100's of programs that want you to send them traffic. Epic will survive without you.

V_RocKs · 10-02-2005, 01:29 AM

Ahh.. didn't realize they are batched... Now it makes sense. When it happened to me I was a few months into your program so if I had a good month in January and then didn't do much in Feb or March, I can see how I'd be like, WOAH! Hold the show! And not realize it happened 2 months ago.

MadCat · 10-02-2005, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonthenet

oh shit they need to fix something probably

n00b

09-30-2005, 11:02 PM	#1
Paraskass Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: QC Posts: 5,829	Chargebacks! Epic cash. Anybody else got em'??? I suddenly see 4 chargebacks in a single day. Anybody else experience chargebacks with epic cash lately? __________________

09-30-2005, 11:04 PM	#2
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	ouch that is strange __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

09-30-2005, 11:05 PM	#3
High Quality Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 5,741	That is EXTREMELY high. __________________ RecurCash.com - Averaging $38/sale with 60% revshare in the first 4 months alone! Convert your TEEN traffic today @ better than 1:500 guaranteed. ICQ me: 18287590!

09-30-2005, 11:06 PM	#4
Paraskass Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: QC Posts: 5,829	I know. 4 today! and I don't get nearly as many signups as most of you! I sent 6 joins this week and got 4 chargebacks. OMG __________________

09-30-2005, 11:14 PM	#5
Paraskass Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: QC Posts: 5,829	I am looking at my stats... in over 300 signups, I have gotten 0 chargebacks... then suddenly, these 4 in a single day. fucking strange. __________________

09-30-2005, 11:16 PM	#6
emthree Dialer Kingpin Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York Posts: 10,816	Probably fraud __________________ • Sell Patches & Pills •

09-30-2005, 11:22 PM	#7
phonesex Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Phone Sex Pays! Believe it! Posts: 3,437	Most likely the same person did the fraud. So that is why there is so much in one day. __________________ Phone Sex Pays Make $1.50 a minute! CLICK HERE TO SIGN UP NOW

09-30-2005, 11:24 PM	#8
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	Maybe it was a batch thing.

09-30-2005, 11:25 PM	#9
elitetec Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York Posts: 4,944	some one really wanted some xxx __________________ Add Your Site To My PR4 Blog Selling Sig ICQ-200636146

09-30-2005, 11:25 PM	#10
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	uh oh.

09-30-2005, 11:29 PM	#11
chupachups Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden/Spain you sum bitch! Posts: 6,576	Maybe thats why PimpDiddy is looking for an MA...... __________________

09-30-2005, 11:43 PM	#12
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,428	That happened to me I think 2 months ago there. Strange because I don't send them much traffic anyways... Infact, I don't send them any anymore if I remember correctly and it was because I got 4 signups and 4 chargebacks in one month and decided its better not to promote them heavely...

10-01-2005, 12:05 AM	#13
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	oh shit they need to fix something probably

10-01-2005, 12:05 AM	#14
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	guys that's how cb's work. first - they are batched by the major banks...so all of a sudden one day you can get a bunch to come through. The second thing - is .. you can send 10 sales and get 2 chargebacks...it doesn't mean EpicCash is doing anything wrong... or that you're necessarily doing anything wrong... sometimes random shit just happens that way. You want to have a low rate - but you could send 1 sale...and might be unfortunate enough to have that one turn into a cb

10-01-2005, 12:11 AM	#15
elitetec Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York Posts: 4,944	lol yea i get all my upsells in one day one time i got 8 and the rest of the month i got 2 lol __________________ Add Your Site To My PR4 Blog Selling Sig ICQ-200636146

10-01-2005, 01:46 AM	#16
Midget Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sunnyvale Trailer Park Posts: 161	That's either a batch or same guy charged back 4 months.

10-01-2005, 02:52 AM	#17
d00t Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your mind Posts: 3,766	is epic still revoking money earned on chargebacks?

10-01-2005, 03:32 AM	#19
OldSchoolJim Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,117	Paraskass....Most likely it is due to a fraud issue.... If you want to shoot me your account name i will have a look and i can let you know...

10-01-2005, 02:04 PM	#22
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	we have been passing along the chargeback buck for several reasons. 1. we get fined by the bank, why shouldnt you? 2. our % goes up, why should you get rewarded and we get scolded. 3. we only post cb's that have actually been charged back by the bank by the consumer with no recourse. 4. cb's can take upto 3-4 months to show up. so fuck your 6 sales, doesnt mean those 4 sales cb'd. it means they just happend to come in when you had a huge week with epcicash of making 6 lousy sales. 5. we deduct what we paid out. we dont fine you, we dont reward you. we take away what we lost when the case was proven to be FRAUD. I will not budge on this, I will not take any further action other than to tell you sorry, if you do not like it, there are 100's of programs that want you to send them traffic. Epic will survive without you. __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

10-02-2005, 01:29 AM	#23
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,428	Ahh.. didn't realize they are batched... Now it makes sense. When it happened to me I was a few months into your program so if I had a good month in January and then didn't do much in Feb or March, I can see how I'd be like, WOAH! Hold the show! And not realize it happened 2 months ago.