Program Owners, Serious Question About Affiliates - GoFuckYourself.com

PatrickKing · 08-12-2005, 04:19 PM

I have 721 affiliates right now and only 346 of them are sending traffic and sales is this a normal number or do I need to clean house?
Some are new sign ups and I know it takes a while to get yer groove on ,
Whats your cut off point or do you just let it roll?

Love Sex · 08-12-2005, 04:24 PM

ok, so what the point of having a program if your going to drop affiliates?

Why · 08-12-2005, 04:26 PM

i wouldnt drop any.

King Porn · 08-12-2005, 04:26 PM

Are you loosing anything by keeping affiliates that are not currently making sales? I've already signed up for programs for a specific project, got backed up busy, and had to put the project on hold for a few months. Then I when I was ready I started sending traffic.

PatrickKing · 08-12-2005, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Love Sex

ok, so what the point of having a program if your going to drop affiliates?

Im trying to get a feel of what other owners do... A friend of mine just cleaned up his non traffic affiliates. I did not agree with his doing this but I was wondering if its the norm.

Tanker · 08-12-2005, 04:34 PM

why would you delete them you can always mail them and tell them about whats new. now that you have them entice them to send traffic

Doc911 · 08-12-2005, 04:35 PM

sometimes webmasters are back logged for months getting links up. I wouldn't delete any of them. unless they were just surfers trying to get free content

Maureenoz · 08-12-2005, 04:39 PM

I wouldn't delete them. Webmasters are very busy and the day they sign up for you might not be the day they're ready to install links to you - and then they get busy and forget. We all do that. As long as you have them on your books they are potential clients and if you approach them right, might turn out to be some of your best affiliates.

demented · 08-12-2005, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc911

sometimes webmasters are back logged for months getting links up. I wouldn't delete any of them. unless they were just surfers trying to get free content

Exactly.. I know sometimes it may take me a few months before I'm ready to put links up. Some webmasters signup just to check out the program. Believe me, if your program is good, you're always in the minds of your affiliates, even the ones not sending traffic..

sonofsam · 08-12-2005, 04:40 PM

from what i've been told, you should be exstatic that, that many people are sending traffic and sales... 300+ out of 700 is awesome

PatrickKing · 08-12-2005, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc911

sometimes webmasters are back logged for months getting links up. I wouldn't delete any of them. unless they were just surfers trying to get free content

I feel the same way, a few I have checked their www's and found nothing,
real webbies or bogus how do you tell? Is it comon practice to give bullshit domains? I never do.

PatrickKing · 08-12-2005, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

from what i've been told, you should be exstatic that, that many people are sending traffic and sales... 300+ out of 700 is awesome

Thanks man! thats kind of the answer I was groping for

lol

That and a few others

mardigras · 08-12-2005, 04:46 PM

I never sign back up for a program if I try to log back in and find the account purged.

Makingcoin · 08-12-2005, 04:47 PM

Delete them all!!!

PatrickKing · 08-12-2005, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

I never sign back up for a program if I try to log back in and find the account purged.

Im not really looking to bounce people, I sign up for programs that I don't send traffic to for months, Im trying to get a feel for what other program owners are doing. . A lot of guys like to keep things to themselves.

Murderous · 08-12-2005, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PatrickKing

I feel the same way, a few I have checked their www's and found nothing,
real webbies or bogus how do you tell? Is it comon practice to give bullshit domains? I never do.

I would say it depends on how long ago they signed up. If they signed up yesterday and it is dead, maybe it needs to propgate... if they signed up last week and it is dead, maybe it is down, if they signed up last month and it is dead, it is probably fake, if they signed up last year and it is dead, maybe that is no longer their primary domain any longer.

I sign up to sponsors and put them on reserve until I am ready, sometimes I clean out my bookmarks and instead of tossing an affiliate who has a site or two I am interested in, I sign up so it is out of the way.

Some sponsors I sighned up to years ago and still have not got around to using them, I was on a freehost with a subdomain and it is dead, but I will login and update my contact info or whatnot when I am ready.

Send out some newsletters and remind folks what is going on these days, I often forget about a sponsor and get an email and I am like shit... there is that site I was looking for.

Also... something for ALL sponsors to think about. I will sign up and the form times out, or I don't get my welcome aboard email. I do not want to signup again cause I like my user ID and support sucks and will not return messages... SPACASH!

LittleMack · 08-12-2005, 04:52 PM

I would not delete the affiliates. What you need to do is communicate with your folks and tell them about what your program offers. This can be a email that will spur some of the dormant affiliates to start sending traffic. You might also be able to help out those that need help with the program.

PatrickKing · 08-12-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Murderous

I would say it depends on how long ago they signed up. If they signed up yesterday and it is dead, maybe it needs to propgate... if they signed up last week and it is dead, maybe it is down, if they signed up last month and it is dead, it is probably fake, if they signed up last year and it is dead, maybe that is no longer their primary domain any longer.

I sign up to sponsors and put them on reserve until I am ready, sometimes I clean out my bookmarks and instead of tossing an affiliate who has a site or two I am interested in, I sign up so it is out of the way.

Some sponsors I sighned up to years ago and still have not got around to using them, I was on a freehost with a subdomain and it is dead, but I will login and update my contact info or whatnot when I am ready.

Send out some newsletters and remind folks what is going on these days, I often forget about a sponsor and get an email and I am like shit... there is that site I was looking for.

Also... something for ALL sponsors to think about. I will sign up and the form times out, or I don't get my welcome aboard email. I do not want to signup again cause I like my user ID and support sucks and will not return messages... SPACASH!

Thanks... This is useful info.

and a nice insight.

PatrickKing · 08-12-2005, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleMack

I would not delete the affiliates. What you need to do is communicate with your folks and tell them about what your program offers. This can be a email that will spur some of the dormant affiliates to start sending traffic. You might also be able to help out those that need help with the program.

Thanks Bro!

PatrickKing · 08-12-2005, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Makingcoin

Delete them all!!!

As funny as that sounds, I know someone who did just that. All his dormant affiliates were bounced. I tried to tell him that was burning potential bridges.
What do I know Im just a simple fat dude lol

american pervert · 08-14-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Murderous

I would say it depends on how long ago they signed up. If they signed up yesterday and it is dead, maybe it needs to propgate... if they signed up last week and it is dead, maybe it is down, if they signed up last month and it is dead, it is probably fake, if they signed up last year and it is dead, maybe that is no longer their primary domain any longer.

I sign up to sponsors and put them on reserve until I am ready, sometimes I clean out my bookmarks and instead of tossing an affiliate who has a site or two I am interested in, I sign up so it is out of the way.

Some sponsors I sighned up to years ago and still have not got around to using them, I was on a freehost with a subdomain and it is dead, but I will login and update my contact info or whatnot when I am ready.

Send out some newsletters and remind folks what is going on these days, I often forget about a sponsor and get an email and I am like shit... there is that site I was looking for.

Also... something for ALL sponsors to think about. I will sign up and the form times out, or I don't get my welcome aboard email. I do not want to signup again cause I like my user ID and support sucks and will not return messages... SPACASH!

We send out sign out letters, so if you didn't get one, you can email me and I'll activate your account by hand. Any questions email me [email protected] or icq- 19375153

JuiceMonkey · 08-14-2005, 04:24 PM

yeah
unless you are LOSING MONEY some how on affiliates why not leave them?

lagwagon · 08-14-2005, 04:26 PM

send them over to me, I will take the affiliates off your hands for you.

High Quality · 08-14-2005, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lagwagon

send them over to me, I will take the affiliates off your hands for you.

Please forward that list. Thanks.

porn-dog · 08-14-2005, 04:31 PM

How about instead of deleting them, talk to them, you are expecting way to much... its not their life's goal to send you traffic, and make you money, they have other things on the go for sure. Encourage them, email the ones that are slacking with a "Hey, how are ya, just wanted to check if there was anyway I could help YOU make more money!, feel free to ICQ me if you need anything, ANYTIME"

Then you will establish a good relationship with your webmasters.

Grinder · 08-14-2005, 04:40 PM

I belong to hundreds of affiliate programs and many of them sit dormant.

Most of my traffic goes to my own paysites now, but sometimes I'll start getting in a flood of Asian traffic (as an example). I don't have any Asian sites so I'll start spreading it out into programs that have Asian sites. Some of these programs I have not sent traffic to for years. The ones that convet the best then get the traffic and several sign-ups per day. The one's have dropped me have lost out.

$pikes · 08-14-2005, 04:42 PM

Don't delete them but realize a good portion of the ones that never sent traffic are surfers that hit your $webmasters$ link on your tours (assuming you have that) and also webmasters that are signing up to your program and are just lookie-loo's.

Big Red Machine · 08-14-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PatrickKing

What do I know Im just a simple fat dude lol

Pat hahaha you always crack me the f up

detoxed · 08-14-2005, 05:55 PM

Why would you EVER try to drop an affiliate? They could start sending traffic 5 years from now. Is it that hard to keep an extra 5kb of affiliate data for a while?

PatrickKing · 08-14-2005, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by porn-dog

How about instead of deleting them, talk to them, you are expecting way to much... its not their life's goal to send you traffic, and make you money, they have other things on the go for sure. Encourage them, email the ones that are slacking with a "Hey, how are ya, just wanted to check if there was anyway I could help YOU make more money!, feel free to ICQ me if you need anything, ANYTIME"

Then you will establish a good relationship with your webmasters.

Please read the thread before posting ... Thanks!

Paraskass · 08-14-2005, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Murderous

Also... something for ALL sponsors to think about. I will sign up and the form times out, or I don't get my welcome aboard email. I do not want to signup again cause I like my user ID and support sucks and will not return messages... SPACASH!

american pervert · 08-14-2005, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Paraskass

I'm still waiting to help him. [email protected]

baddog · 08-14-2005, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PatrickKing

I have 721 affiliates right now and only 346 of them are sending traffic and sales is this a normal number or do I need to clean house?
Some are new sign ups and I know it takes a while to get yer groove on ,
Whats your cut off point or do you just let it roll?

Sounds like a damn fine ratio to me. I never get rid of affiliates unless I catch them cheating or if they opt out of the email list

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Maureenoz I'm older than you are. Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: very far south Posts: 165	I wouldn't delete them. Webmasters are very busy and the day they sign up for you might not be the day they're ready to install links to you - and then they get busy and forget. We all do that. As long as you have them on your books they are potential clients and if you approach them right, might turn out to be some of your best affiliates. __________________ Love Ain't FREE! SexyAds.Com

08-12-2005, 04:24 PM	#2
Love Sex Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,905	ok, so what the point of having a program if your going to drop affiliates?

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Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	i wouldnt drop any.

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LittleMack www.pornkings.com Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Baby!! Posts: 4,645	I would not delete the affiliates. What you need to do is communicate with your folks and tell them about what your program offers. This can be a email that will spur some of the dormant affiliates to start sending traffic. You might also be able to help out those that need help with the program. __________________ [email protected]

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porn-dog Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 394	How about instead of deleting them, talk to them, you are expecting way to much... its not their life's goal to send you traffic, and make you money, they have other things on the go for sure. Encourage them, email the ones that are slacking with a "Hey, how are ya, just wanted to check if there was anyway I could help YOU make more money!, feel free to ICQ me if you need anything, ANYTIME" Then you will establish a good relationship with your webmasters.

08-14-2005, 04:40 PM	#26
Grinder Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 261	I belong to hundreds of affiliate programs and many of them sit dormant. Most of my traffic goes to my own paysites now, but sometimes I'll start getting in a flood of Asian traffic (as an example). I don't have any Asian sites so I'll start spreading it out into programs that have Asian sites. Some of these programs I have not sent traffic to for years. The ones that convet the best then get the traffic and several sign-ups per day. The one's have dropped me have lost out.

08-14-2005, 04:42 PM	#27
$pikes Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,055	Don't delete them but realize a good portion of the ones that never sent traffic are surfers that hit your $webmasters$ link on your tours (assuming you have that) and also webmasters that are signing up to your program and are just lookie-loo's. __________________ SMASHBUCKS Paying webmasters on time since 2001 Joe Spikes - ICQ: 160069266

08-14-2005, 05:55 PM	#29
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	Why would you EVER try to drop an affiliate? They could start sending traffic 5 years from now. Is it that hard to keep an extra 5kb of affiliate data for a while?