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PatrickKing 08-12-2005 04:19 PM

Program Owners, Serious Question About Affiliates
 
I have 721 affiliates right now and only 346 of them are sending traffic and sales is this a normal number or do I need to clean house?
Some are new sign ups and I know it takes a while to get yer groove on ,
Whats your cut off point or do you just let it roll?

:thumbsup

Love Sex 08-12-2005 04:24 PM

ok, so what the point of having a program if your going to drop affiliates?

Why 08-12-2005 04:26 PM

i wouldnt drop any.

King Porn 08-12-2005 04:26 PM

Are you loosing anything by keeping affiliates that are not currently making sales? I've already signed up for programs for a specific project, got backed up busy, and had to put the project on hold for a few months. Then I when I was ready I started sending traffic.

PatrickKing 08-12-2005 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love Sex
ok, so what the point of having a program if your going to drop affiliates?

Im trying to get a feel of what other owners do... A friend of mine just cleaned up his non traffic affiliates. I did not agree with his doing this but I was wondering if its the norm.

Tanker 08-12-2005 04:34 PM

why would you delete them you can always mail them and tell them about whats new. now that you have them entice them to send traffic

Doc911 08-12-2005 04:35 PM

sometimes webmasters are back logged for months getting links up. I wouldn't delete any of them. unless they were just surfers trying to get free content

Maureenoz 08-12-2005 04:39 PM

I wouldn't delete them. Webmasters are very busy and the day they sign up for you might not be the day they're ready to install links to you - and then they get busy and forget. We all do that. As long as you have them on your books they are potential clients and if you approach them right, might turn out to be some of your best affiliates.

demented 08-12-2005 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc911
sometimes webmasters are back logged for months getting links up. I wouldn't delete any of them. unless they were just surfers trying to get free content

Exactly.. I know sometimes it may take me a few months before I'm ready to put links up. Some webmasters signup just to check out the program. Believe me, if your program is good, you're always in the minds of your affiliates, even the ones not sending traffic..

sonofsam 08-12-2005 04:40 PM

from what i've been told, you should be exstatic that, that many people are sending traffic and sales... 300+ out of 700 is awesome

PatrickKing 08-12-2005 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc911
sometimes webmasters are back logged for months getting links up. I wouldn't delete any of them. unless they were just surfers trying to get free content

I feel the same way, a few I have checked their www's and found nothing,
real webbies or bogus how do you tell? Is it comon practice to give bullshit domains? I never do.

PatrickKing 08-12-2005 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
from what i've been told, you should be exstatic that, that many people are sending traffic and sales... 300+ out of 700 is awesome

Thanks man! thats kind of the answer I was groping for :) lol

That and a few others :)

mardigras 08-12-2005 04:46 PM

I never sign back up for a program if I try to log back in and find the account purged. :2 cents:

Makingcoin 08-12-2005 04:47 PM

Delete them all!!! :1orglaugh

PatrickKing 08-12-2005 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras
I never sign back up for a program if I try to log back in and find the account purged. :2 cents:

Im not really looking to bounce people, I sign up for programs that I don't send traffic to for months, Im trying to get a feel for what other program owners are doing. . A lot of guys like to keep things to themselves.

Murderous 08-12-2005 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatrickKing
I feel the same way, a few I have checked their www's and found nothing,
real webbies or bogus how do you tell? Is it comon practice to give bullshit domains? I never do.

I would say it depends on how long ago they signed up. If they signed up yesterday and it is dead, maybe it needs to propgate... if they signed up last week and it is dead, maybe it is down, if they signed up last month and it is dead, it is probably fake, if they signed up last year and it is dead, maybe that is no longer their primary domain any longer.

I sign up to sponsors and put them on reserve until I am ready, sometimes I clean out my bookmarks and instead of tossing an affiliate who has a site or two I am interested in, I sign up so it is out of the way.

Some sponsors I sighned up to years ago and still have not got around to using them, I was on a freehost with a subdomain and it is dead, but I will login and update my contact info or whatnot when I am ready.

Send out some newsletters and remind folks what is going on these days, I often forget about a sponsor and get an email and I am like shit... there is that site I was looking for.

Also... something for ALL sponsors to think about. I will sign up and the form times out, or I don't get my welcome aboard email. I do not want to signup again cause I like my user ID and support sucks and will not return messages... SPACASH!

LittleMack 08-12-2005 04:52 PM

I would not delete the affiliates. What you need to do is communicate with your folks and tell them about what your program offers. This can be a email that will spur some of the dormant affiliates to start sending traffic. You might also be able to help out those that need help with the program.

PatrickKing 08-12-2005 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Murderous
I would say it depends on how long ago they signed up. If they signed up yesterday and it is dead, maybe it needs to propgate... if they signed up last week and it is dead, maybe it is down, if they signed up last month and it is dead, it is probably fake, if they signed up last year and it is dead, maybe that is no longer their primary domain any longer.

I sign up to sponsors and put them on reserve until I am ready, sometimes I clean out my bookmarks and instead of tossing an affiliate who has a site or two I am interested in, I sign up so it is out of the way.

Some sponsors I sighned up to years ago and still have not got around to using them, I was on a freehost with a subdomain and it is dead, but I will login and update my contact info or whatnot when I am ready.

Send out some newsletters and remind folks what is going on these days, I often forget about a sponsor and get an email and I am like shit... there is that site I was looking for.

Also... something for ALL sponsors to think about. I will sign up and the form times out, or I don't get my welcome aboard email. I do not want to signup again cause I like my user ID and support sucks and will not return messages... SPACASH!

Thanks... This is useful info. :) and a nice insight.

PatrickKing 08-12-2005 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleMack
I would not delete the affiliates. What you need to do is communicate with your folks and tell them about what your program offers. This can be a email that will spur some of the dormant affiliates to start sending traffic. You might also be able to help out those that need help with the program.

:thumbsup
Thanks Bro!

PatrickKing 08-12-2005 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Makingcoin
Delete them all!!! :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

As funny as that sounds, I know someone who did just that. All his dormant affiliates were bounced. I tried to tell him that was burning potential bridges.
What do I know Im just a simple fat dude lol :) :1orglaugh

american pervert 08-14-2005 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murderous
I would say it depends on how long ago they signed up. If they signed up yesterday and it is dead, maybe it needs to propgate... if they signed up last week and it is dead, maybe it is down, if they signed up last month and it is dead, it is probably fake, if they signed up last year and it is dead, maybe that is no longer their primary domain any longer.

I sign up to sponsors and put them on reserve until I am ready, sometimes I clean out my bookmarks and instead of tossing an affiliate who has a site or two I am interested in, I sign up so it is out of the way.

Some sponsors I sighned up to years ago and still have not got around to using them, I was on a freehost with a subdomain and it is dead, but I will login and update my contact info or whatnot when I am ready.

Send out some newsletters and remind folks what is going on these days, I often forget about a sponsor and get an email and I am like shit... there is that site I was looking for.

Also... something for ALL sponsors to think about. I will sign up and the form times out, or I don't get my welcome aboard email. I do not want to signup again cause I like my user ID and support sucks and will not return messages... SPACASH!

We send out sign out letters, so if you didn't get one, you can email me and I'll activate your account by hand. Any questions email me [email protected] or icq- 19375153

JuiceMonkey 08-14-2005 04:24 PM

yeah
unless you are LOSING MONEY some how on affiliates why not leave them?

lagwagon 08-14-2005 04:26 PM

send them over to me, I will take the affiliates off your hands for you.

High Quality 08-14-2005 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagwagon
send them over to me, I will take the affiliates off your hands for you.

Please forward that list. Thanks.

porn-dog 08-14-2005 04:31 PM

How about instead of deleting them, talk to them, you are expecting way to much... its not their life's goal to send you traffic, and make you money, they have other things on the go for sure. Encourage them, email the ones that are slacking with a "Hey, how are ya, just wanted to check if there was anyway I could help YOU make more money!, feel free to ICQ me if you need anything, ANYTIME"

Then you will establish a good relationship with your webmasters.

Grinder 08-14-2005 04:40 PM

I belong to hundreds of affiliate programs and many of them sit dormant.

Most of my traffic goes to my own paysites now, but sometimes I'll start getting in a flood of Asian traffic (as an example). I don't have any Asian sites so I'll start spreading it out into programs that have Asian sites. Some of these programs I have not sent traffic to for years. The ones that convet the best then get the traffic and several sign-ups per day. The one's have dropped me have lost out.

$pikes 08-14-2005 04:42 PM

Don't delete them but realize a good portion of the ones that never sent traffic are surfers that hit your $webmasters$ link on your tours (assuming you have that) and also webmasters that are signing up to your program and are just lookie-loo's.

:2 cents:

Big Red Machine 08-14-2005 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatrickKing
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
What do I know Im just a simple fat dude lol :) :1orglaugh

Pat hahaha you always crack me the f up

detoxed 08-14-2005 05:55 PM

Why would you EVER try to drop an affiliate? They could start sending traffic 5 years from now. Is it that hard to keep an extra 5kb of affiliate data for a while?

PatrickKing 08-14-2005 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porn-dog
How about instead of deleting them, talk to them, you are expecting way to much... its not their life's goal to send you traffic, and make you money, they have other things on the go for sure. Encourage them, email the ones that are slacking with a "Hey, how are ya, just wanted to check if there was anyway I could help YOU make more money!, feel free to ICQ me if you need anything, ANYTIME"

Then you will establish a good relationship with your webmasters.

Please read the thread before posting ... Thanks!

Paraskass 08-14-2005 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murderous
Also... something for ALL sponsors to think about. I will sign up and the form times out, or I don't get my welcome aboard email. I do not want to signup again cause I like my user ID and support sucks and will not return messages... SPACASH!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

american pervert 08-14-2005 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Paraskass
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


I'm still waiting to help him. [email protected]

baddog 08-14-2005 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatrickKing
I have 721 affiliates right now and only 346 of them are sending traffic and sales is this a normal number or do I need to clean house?
Some are new sign ups and I know it takes a while to get yer groove on ,
Whats your cut off point or do you just let it roll?

:thumbsup


Sounds like a damn fine ratio to me. I never get rid of affiliates unless I catch them cheating or if they opt out of the email list


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