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Old 08-13-2005, 07:04 PM   #1
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Free TGP hosting-What free scripts do you want????

Just as the title states, what scripts would you want with free TGP hosting? Comus thumbs etc. Please post your opinions thanks
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Old 08-13-2005, 07:09 PM   #2
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Comus Thumbs or Smart Thumbs for thumb scripts and ATX for trade script. However, I wouldn't use it myself if I had to give up a top banner spot as payment, assuming that's what it'd cost for being "free". My assumption might be wrong though.

One other suggestion, I'd say you'd need to impose a certain level to be achieved within a certain period of time, for each freehosted TGP/MGP. I don't see thousands of 100/day sites justifying the script costs, unless the bulk discount you get on them really reduces cost to a minimum.
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I don't see thousands of 100/day sites justifying the script costs, unless the bulk discount you get on them really reduces cost to a minimum.
what if he worked a deal with the script owners, for a bulk server license...unlimited domains? then it would be just fine
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Comus Thumbs or Smart Thumbs for thumb scripts and ATX for trade script. However, I wouldn't use it myself if I had to give up a top banner spot as payment, assuming that's what it'd cost for being "free". My assumption might be wrong though.

One other suggestion, I'd say you'd need to impose a certain level to be achieved within a certain period of time, for each freehosted TGP/MGP. I don't see thousands of 100/day sites justifying the script costs, unless the bulk discount you get on them really reduces cost to a minimum.
Good post, I am just kicking around ideas at the moment. If smart thumbs has a free version I could use it. What I want to do is give out accounts with the scripts already installed and ready to go. As far as trade scripts other than my own, if I did this then yeah I would have to have a header and footer. I am thinking if guys use ttt on the site I would not have to have any headers or footers.
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what if he worked a deal with the script owners, for a bulk server license...unlimited domains? then it would be just fine
I'd say that's a big IF. I've been dealing with the owners of all the scripts I mentioned above and if I were them I'd be cautious with offering such a "server license", as it would diminish the retail value of their products. Not saying Tom wouldn't be able to pull off getting a good deal, but all people involved in this are businessmen, and as such they're looking out for the value of what they sell.
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what if he worked a deal with the script owners, for a bulk server license...unlimited domains? then it would be just fine
Guys who would host their tgps on a free host would most likely not use a paid script, they would use the free version of the paid ones
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you could work out a deal with the tgp script companies, for a special coded version of the script for your servers, that threw hits to your galleries/tgps...like 1:500 clicks went spcifically to your own galleries or tgp's....just a thought
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you could work out a deal with the tgp script companies, for a special coded version of the script for your servers, that threw hits to your galleries/tgps...like 1:500 clicks went spcifically to your own galleries or tgp's....just a thought
Well Comus has a free version that takes 1% of the clicks, Pretty sure that is the deal he has.
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Guys who would host their tgps on a free host would most likely not use a paid script, they would use the free version of the paid ones
yes, but if you were making money off being the free host, YOU set up the people wanting the free hosting with a copy of comus that YOU worked a deal out for

the tgp'ers won't need to buy anything, cause you already worked out a deal with comus to have unlimited domains
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Well Comus has a free version that takes 1% of the clicks, Pretty sure that is the deal he has.
but wouldn't you want to work some deal out with Comus to better your customers and such?
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Good post, I am just kicking around ideas at the moment. If smart thumbs has a free version I could use it. What I want to do is give out accounts with the scripts already installed and ready to go. As far as trade scripts other than my own, if I did this then yeah I would have to have a header and footer. I am thinking if guys use ttt on the site I would not have to have any headers or footers.
How about if someone used say TTT and then a licensed thumb script of their own, would that leave out the header+footer?
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Well Comus has a free version that takes 1% of the clicks, Pretty sure that is the deal he has.
It takes 2%.
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Why not get a price on getting your own script coded? Then you could get 2% .
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How about if someone used say TTT and then a licensed thumb script of their own, would that leave out the header+footer?
Yes, but then the problem arises of letting guys have ssh to install their own scripts
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Yes, but then the problem arises of letting guys have ssh to install their own scripts
Good point. However, I was more thinking of Comus, which you said could come pre-installed, for which I get my own license.
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Good point. However, I was more thinking of Comus, which you said could come pre-installed, for which I get my own license.
But then there is a problem to make sure the user paid for the license. I am trying ot make things as hassle free as is possible. For guys who have tgps total traffic of 100k a day or more I would jsut give them the server to do whatever they wanted as long as they used ttt on it. I have a ton of them, good servers, 1 gig ram dual 160 gig hard drives p4 s
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But then there is a problem to make sure the user paid for the license. I am trying ot make things as hassle free as is possible. For guys who have tgps total traffic of 100k a day or more I would jsut give them the server to do whatever they wanted as long as they used ttt on it. I have a ton of them, good servers, 1 gig ram dual 160 gig hard drives p4 s
Actually, Comus has a license key which you must enter in the appropriate field, in order for it to be 2% or fully licensed. If it can't detect the proper license key then it will skim up to 20% (demo mode). So you wouldn't have to worry about it being paid or not, it detects that automatically.

I'll take a few servers though. Will hit you up next week about this, sounds like a good deal.
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I think that vannila TGP is also a very good script option...
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Actually, Comus has a license key which you must enter in the appropriate field, in order for it to be 2% or fully licensed. If it can't detect the proper license key then it will skim up to 20% (demo mode). So you wouldn't have to worry about it being paid or not, it detects that automatically.

I'll take a few servers though. Will hit you up next week about this, sounds like a good deal.

Sure those details could be worked out. CT is a fantastic program IMO.

I'd never go for free hosting and the rest and ya can't give someone SSH. I want to much control and hate rules. Then there is SEO, seems to be a problem issue with the type of prgram you're throwing around here.

Why not just do them all yourself? Well, ya did that awhile back. How many TGPs did ya have? It was a big number. Had some trades with ya which was fine, but then google went PR0 on ya. PR still counts for quality of traffic etc..

Good luck on the new project.
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But then there is a problem to make sure the user paid for the license. I am trying ot make things as hassle free as is possible. For guys who have tgps total traffic of 100k a day or more I would jsut give them the server to do whatever they wanted as long as they used ttt on it. I have a ton of them, good servers, 1 gig ram dual 160 gig hard drives p4 s
You know a bunch of webmasters would jump on that. That server could handle the 100K no problem (depends on bandwidth available and so on). So they could even add other sites.... AVS, small paysites, mass email....
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Y not have the people that want to host with you have a opition they bring their own domain and tgp script use your ttt script.. I would throw one up for something like this.

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I wanted a hun-like TGP. I used phplinkdirectory.com as base, modified it to my needs, and having a programmer right now doing some last technical modifications. I've spent $80..

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Skimming actual httpd requests, surfers are going to love that!
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www.fhporn.com is a text link based site like that,

i spent $0
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www.fhporn.com is a text link based site like that,

i spent $0
It's not the frontpage that is the issue, its' the admin backend. You can make a TGP just using M$ Frontpage.

I wanted: CSV bulk link import, auto publish, 404 bot, etc.. But most important: A button in my browser, which allows me to add a gallery I see and like instantly to my own list by one click.
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Unless Tony has finally got around to limiting the options in the free version of Comus, one of the problems you will face with it, is the ability of newbies to overload your server(s) with bad setups.

Comus takes a lot of flack for being heavy on server resources, which fundamentally it isn't. But there are settings and sorts which can turn it into a hog when combined without much thought as to the consequences. Unfortunately, free-script users are far worse at reading instructions than those who buy scripts and I suspect those who put free scripts on free hosts will be worse still.
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I'd say that's a big IF. I've been dealing with the owners of all the scripts I mentioned above and if I were them I'd be cautious with offering such a "server license", as it would diminish the retail value of their products. Not saying Tom wouldn't be able to pull off getting a good deal, but all people involved in this are businessmen, and as such they're looking out for the value of what they sell.
plus also not looking forward to litterally a thousand of newbies glogging up support forums cause they fucked settings over. Dont get me wrong all scripts mentioned are great but they all do require a certain level off knowledge. And thats where most off them fail.
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But then there is a problem to make sure the user paid for the license. I am trying ot make things as hassle free as is possible. For guys who have tgps total traffic of 100k a day or more I would jsut give them the server to do whatever they wanted as long as they used ttt on it. I have a ton of them, good servers, 1 gig ram dual 160 gig hard drives p4 s
sounds like a good deal. just remeber like i said in my last post try to get people that do know a little of comus or are willing to spend a bit of time reading the manual and getting to know the script. if they dont i forsee your servers being filled with sites that produce a massive load on the servers. effectively making you less money and really not helping others hosted on that box.

Perhaps we could have tony code a special version for ya (lets talk about this later this week, as i can inform tony then (if you allready didnt do that :D))

laterz and good luck with the new thing,

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It's not the frontpage that is the issue, its' the admin backend. You can make a TGP just using M$ Frontpage.

I wanted: CSV bulk link import, auto publish, 404 bot, etc.. But most important: A button in my browser, which allows me to add a gallery I see and like instantly to my own list by one click.
mine has bulk import, auto publish, 404/change check bot, etc.
the only thing is.. to operate it you must be an expert in C/Perl/Php/Shell/Cron and a few other things ;)
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mine has bulk import, auto publish, 404/change check bot, etc.
the only thing is.. to operate it you must be an expert in C/Perl/Php/Shell/Cron and a few other things ;)
I'm just a sigwhore. I need to spend $80 on a programmer so I can work with it. Ah well, as long as it works for both of us..
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I would build a couple of tgp's on this deal
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jayeff, boneless, great posts. Didn't consider the resource hogging issues as I've never really run into them myself, but I'm confident that given enough Comus newbies on a single server, that box will get to its knees in no time.
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that many tgps using comus on one server would bury the MySql connections, you could just sit back and watch the server melt!
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that many tgps using comus on one server would bury the MySql connections, you could just sit back and watch the server melt!

MySql will die as you said.
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TTT would be good enoughf for me to build some tgp's on a free host
(If it was Chokers free host)
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