Not really . Patience is my virtue.

I agree we can all do with out the " wakekekeke " in EVERY post.

GFY brings out the wierdest thoughts in people I guess.

Dugmor, I know you're being respectful and all and I appreciate it. This thread turned into something somewhat educational so thank you for that. But I have a small sense that you might have taken it a little personally though...

Bumping old threads isn't on the rules page or anything and I didn't really mean to make a huge issue out of it. I just wanted your posters to know that it's irritating people and I was getting complaints on icq so I thought just a little heads up for them will make them chill out a little before making further asses out of themselves. Plus I also needed the complainers to stop bugging me so I could get some actual work done.

No big deal... They didn't know any better... But WOW that thread that Sin posted EESH... I didn't even see that one. That's messed up. It's almost like they're ridiculously high on crack literally. OK I'll stop picking on you haha...

I don't know about respected, but I'm filipino as well.

I'd like to think Eros would have said that about any nationality.

Maybe I was wrong. There are Filipinos who have never left the P.I. that speak better english than you or me.

English is the 2nd language of the Phillipines. You are starting to show your ignorance.

You told me you were swedish :helpme

I was trying to get into your pants.

All these years later, still no joy. :(

Hope springs eternal! :upsidedow

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

she doesn't seem to be that smart...how the hell did she managed to finished her degree :helpme :Oh crap

SIGH! Poor RRRed. At least soon, I should be fitted with my own Super Moderator decoder ring and share some of the burden. :Oh crap

Fire Stacey_JoinRightNow too for doing the same shit on every forum and creating a 4page thread about it on **another board**:
http://bbs.i-would-love-to-keep-this...but-i-cant.com

While you're at it, fire yourself too.

Very soon!! Thank you for the .gif btw I'm likin it

Give me a fucking break.

show me any of these board whores hired from the PI are at the same level of comprehension as you or me.

That's the issue at hand, not just speaking it, but understanding it within the context of the discussion.

The simple fact is this is a very difficult business that entails a lot of subtelties when it comes to language. Why? Because we are advertisers and a lot of our customers speak english as a first language, and most if not all of the rest speak it as a second language.

We as a group, an industry spend hours upon hours "tweakin" text, ad copy whatever you want to call it to maximize conversions, SE placement etc.

So with that in mind, if you want to hire "marketing" people who speak the language, but fail to understand it in all it's subtleties then good luck with that.

I think it would be wiser to take the salaries of 3 combined "marketing" people from the PI and combine that and add a few $'s and hire 1 marketing person who has shown success in this business and leave the grunt work to employees who get paid a grunts pay.

Come on Dugmor quit spinning the bullshit.

These girls are never going to become some serious affiliate managesr for your company.

I have said this before. What's the difference between a webmaster and an affiliate manager?

Affiliate managers have tits.

You are following the same path as a lot of companies. Hire a chick so the guys swoon over titties and ass they'll never see or touch.

But you added a twist. They are now Filipino chicks.

As far as having trouble with outsourced employees out of the philippines.

Yeah I dealt with the issue myself. Had a filipinio partner here in Vegas with a crew out of Angeles city, here and Los Angeles and even with hands on training, face to face training after 6 months I learned a lot about trying to teach people how to design for adult.

You either get it or you don't.

I can spot outsourced work a mile away.

#1 the quality.
Ranged from fucking absolutely fantastic, to downright horrible.
But the ratio was something like 1 out of 10 were great, the rest were borderline awful.

The color schemes used clash as well.

#2 the overuse of graphics to hide their lack of sales skills, or understanding of flow when it comes to ad copy.

#3 THE ENGRISH
Bad english is fine if you are submitting your own galleries, but if I want to use an FHG from a company based out of the US I don't wanna see shit like...
"click here for indeed lively porn all that can be presented is here."

#4 Theft.
And as evidenced by a lot of threads here on GFY and an issue I suffered from some of our own designers..because most cannot quite grasp the concept fo designing for adult they go out and steal concepts.

Not just part of them the entire concept down to the HTML.

I had to set up a system in place to overly analyze each and every design to ensure that this would not happen, and after threats of termination if it did they still tried to get by with it.

In the end what I learned was it was not worth it.

It was not worth my reputation to save a few $'s and try to build up a business I built up on hours upon hours of hard work.

I think in the end many US companies will come to understand this as well.

Sure if you want to be able to throw out a new site a week along with 200+ FHG's no cheaper way to do it than finding someone in the PI.

But my question once again is it better to have 1 high quality converting site or 10 mediocre sites?

I'd rather be in Quiet's position honestly.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Oh my side... I'm trying to memorize this. Thank you for the morning laugh.

I had a really awesome Russian girl that did the best design work ever. But I'd have to always write up our text. I never did it from the beginning or a project though cuz I thought there's no way for her to learn unless she just does it. (But secretly it was so I could fall off my couch laughing... not at her you know what I mean... just it was I guess you could say "cute")

Anyway I'm out of here for most of the day... thanks for the chuckle

You're welcome :winkwink:

This was actually a line a friend of mine found on a gallery about 4 years ago and from that point on we called anything outsourced or that had bad engrish in it...indeed lively porn.

It became an inside joke. He would send me a message with a link saying "check this out, it is most indeed lively."

Here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
from Pro Adult Outsourcing.

http://www.eroswebmaster.com/storage/examples/1.jpg

I looked at their portfolio and this one just stood right out because I have seen http://www.ispycameltoe.com so much.

Look at all the "similarities" in just this one example...LOL

This is the constant kind of bullshit you have to put up with when dealing with outsourced employees.

Let's not forget about the indeed lively text.
"see such kind of pussy in need of big cock"

eros - while you approach is "to kill", I must agree with almost everything you said on this thread.

You do seem to generalize alot about the results of work coming from non-english people tho...

So, what Pinoy or group of Pinoys pissed you off?

Generalizations is usually the first step when noticing racism.

100..........

Out of everything I said in that post you as a businessman can't see past some sort of bias...grow the fuck up

Fuck you dumbass

Because if you're targetting a predominantly english speaking audience *and by that I'm referring to those around the world who speak it as a 1st or 2nd language* then it's highly unprofessional to use ideed lively engrish in your ad copy.

Wow someone said that to me at the last show when sixnine came up to me to say hi... Like a reflex I threw my keys and wallet at him and begged him not to kill me.

Hmm... maybe they were right :helpme

I'll bet the nut I have thats smaller than the bigger one i have that they are all phillipino posters told to post away.

duke