Bill doesn't even know who i am, i replied here because i do business with him monthly and the nubiles.net operation is a class act.

wtf is this about and who cares?

Nubiles...
 

I have been a shooter for the crew @ Nubiles for almost a year now and these guys are top notch. Never had any problems with them & they are very easy to work with.

Im curious who you are? But thanks for the kind words. A person can only do so much damage before they learn.

hey Bill, I'm Scott from DVDSuperStar

:1orglaugh I knew I recognized that nickname! Hi, you know who! :winkwink:

So now that SM paid PJ's debt to you, you still think that the two are the same, right?

I never said that. Who are you by the way???

i'm confused.

heheh :winkwink: :helpme

all i know is i deal with Bill and crew frequently and they are absolute professionals, from 2257 clarifications to offering top-notch content to the www.nubiles.net members.

Bill and Troy always promptly reply to my emails and icq's and are absolute professionals, it's a pleasure doing business with them- period.

I'm Lizzie...been around for years :) Don't post alot, but this thread really caught my attention.

I am curious as to why a guy (shooting_manic) claims he has nothing to do with perfection Jeff, says he isn't perfection Jeff, doesn't care what perfection Jeff did to anyone, but he pays perfection Jeff's debts.

Isn't that strange to anyone else?

250..........

I must dream :upsidedow :1orglaugh

hahaha! I just reread that..you know who the hell I am! :1orglaugh


icq in my sig. :winkwink:

heya gorgeous! hahahah, u got me on that one ehehe :winkwink:

what choo up to?

:1orglaugh icq me sexy!

hitted! :winkwink:

Nubiles is great people, it was a pleasure running into you guys in vegas at internext

You sir are amazing! :winkwink:

hehe, the pleasure was all mine :winkwink:

No wire yet :(

I have a question for you Bill. Why would you pay this reject before receiving the work? All the sites and magazines that buy content from photogs inspect the work, model releases and id's before cutting checks. I hope he didn't request payment before the work was done cuz he had no money? :warning

Its Sat... no shit. I told you quite clearly that it was sent at 3:32 yesterday. My bank, Bank One might not post till monday. Or, your bank might not post it till monday.


I expect a full and total retraction on Monday morning.

Yeah RRAY, im broke.. hahahaha can I have a loan? Maybe your halfway house in downtown Detroit has a room? Getting a bit clse to home am I?

dunno about him, but i ask for 50% upfront to make sure i can cover the model, photographer, makeup, wardrobe, etc. costs for at least 50% of the project.

At least with new clients, there are too many deadbeats around to start shooting without a deposit :2 cents:

for recurring clients we don't ask for a deposit - but for new customers we had to do that since we had some bad experiences in the past :2 cents:

I dont ask for a 100% deposit either. Never have and never will. I will take a deposit to secure a certain model for a client, thats done all the time or for orders over 20k which all of mine are really. I normally take a 25% deposit for orders that size to cover upfront model expenses, outfits and locations if needed. Then the client pays the other 50-75% when the content is delivered.

Bill paid upfront and he was never ask to. No biggie. He wired it without me even asking. H edoes pay well and thats great. He didnt get his order fast enough so I gave it to him for free. Seems fair to me.

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One thing to think about is time.Running to the bank for every 50% deposit means twice the amount of trips to the bank. You get to the bank, you wait in line, you wait for the teller to write the wire, you have to deal with her looking at your account and asking what you do. Thats at least an hour of time. Its so much easier to send a payment once. Most photographers ask for the payment when they send the work. Very few asked for it in the beginning. I fucked up, I couldnt image why someone would want to take my money and not produce anything, or not work quickly to make things right, and then still come to this board.

If this guy really sent the content, lets see the tracking #.

I am sure he will send a wire eventually, but the question is why does it have to be like this? I expressed concern so long ago. Why not just pay the $20 fed ex and overnight it. Or why not just say the shoot got ruined (if it was never shot) and return the money back then. It shouldnt be this difficult.

Theres been more than one time when a photographer has said hes low on funds and asked me to run by the fed ex and get a check out or deposit in his account. You just do it, thats a part of working together.

This is going to be a major drama again, history all over

Wow... let's hope his bank doesn't screw up 2 wire attempts followed by a Western Union screw up as was in my case :warning

Good thing you're not in Canada or you might end up with $1500 Canadian back :disgust

good luck getting paid/content nubiles! let us know how it works out

will jeff ever quit ?

I hear what you're saying Bill. Let us know what happens in this very informative thread about this sociopath from MI.

Sorry to hear about your problems , did you ask for a tracking #(as if it matters) ?? As much as I hate to say, this is the same type of BULLSHIT... JEFF was pulling on people! Promises upon promises , phony tracking #'s,bank transfers and wires that never arrive, bad cheques. When you get your content, if you do , just hope the Girls have been paid! Jeff had a chance to re-invent himself and make good, looks like he just fucked up again :2 cents: in

Nice spelling moron.. hahahahahhahahahahahahahah! Hard to excpect more when youve hit bottom in the projects in Detroit. If you need a load, hit me up. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


JFk, you know better and youre smart. Read my responsed. Ive done everything I said I would do. When this Jeff asshole does the same, let me know.


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hmmmm.....interesting icq!

I met shooting_manic at a party, it's Jeff. i have no idea why anyone is even arguing it isn't.

I've search for pictures from this party, very few on gfy. I haven't given up yet though. :winkwink:

I just read the first and last pages of this thread so excuse me if this has been brought up already, but here's an easy solution.... post a picture of yourself?

People know what Perfection Jeff looks like, you say you're not him, post a picture.

Am I missing something?

I know you could post a fake pic easily, but that would seriously limit your ability to meet new people in this biz. So I say posting a pic here in this thread for all to see is a good solution. doooooooooo it

a pic with this thread on a monitor in the background should be pretty much solid proof :2 cents:

It's a bit ironic you'd question my spelling when you can't make even one post without spelling errors. :1orglaugh

LOL! Yeah, whatever dude, If Ebonics was my native tougue I guess I would have an excuse.


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any comment on the solution I proposed?

Sure, when you start buying content from me. That and nothing more earns you the right. Hard to beleive that the industry actual survives without gfy . :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


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