haha was that the 80's?

Come on man. Do you really think it matters if WHY gives me a thumbs up or not? Who is he anyways? Some spammer I have been told today is all I know. Does he buy content? No! Would he even have the budget to order from me if he did? Not enough for one set I would guess.

My clients know me and I can tell you they are all very happy and we are LFAO at this thread. One of my clients even took time out of his day to post in this thread.

Why ask me to get a picture of me, with the some models, holding a sign saying.. "I'm not perfection jeff" I will see what I can do about getting that tomorrow during a shoot we have scheduled. LOL What a joke that I have to take time of of my day to jump through a hoop for some kid named 'WHY" I'm asking myself the same question..... WHY?

:)

Well it's not an 'unjust' attack when it's fairly obvious that's whats being claimed is true.

"I don't even think that domain is even live anymore or has anything on it for that matter."

You said you "don't even think"; yet you obviously knew exactly what was on it since you had just deleted the pages minutes earlier.

That's all I was asking about. To be perfectly honest, I really don't care if you are Perfection Jeff since I don't have any reason to deal with either of you. I just found the contradiction a little amusing. Perhaps that you dedicated an entire domain to his sites is merely as you say coincidence.

Thing is, either does anyone else in this thread except for Shap and well, you can read his remarks about me and the type of business I run on page one if this thread. Yet, here we are.

Shap, and my other clients are the only opinions that matters to me. Hense, this thread is meaningless and a waste of time for everyone involved.

:thumbsup

I will go to this party and see whats up I have met Jeff before at a starbucks to talk business and i know him, so I will see who this guy is and if its the same guy I will post it in here if its a differnt guy I will let you guys know.

are you fucking kidding me? did you not see all the proof in this thread? if this guy cant go out of his way to use different server/birthday/affiliate program codes.... then im sure he wont go out of his way to hire anyone to pretend like they're "shooting manic". and no i will not go out of my way to hang out with someone that scams people and make plans for the weekend.

funny this thread is meaningless but you replied 16 times, more than anyone else that posted in this thread.

Brandon whats the big lose? you go to a lake house have some drinks and fuck wit the models if its him big deal if its not then its all kool.

Interesting thread! Yes Jeff..........I'm still here! And will be asshole! :winkwink:

sorry to hear that you're so naive.

If you want to be associated with scum like him, good for you :2 cents:

How does that make me Naive you idiot, I can care less who it is Jeff never did anything wrong against me so If i go party and have fun is that a Lose?

wow, maybe I'm wrong but it sure as hell sounded like you just said, he didn't fuck me over...so why do I care who he did fuck over?????? As long as I can party..am I wrong??? or what did you mean??? might want to ask around who the fuck I know first........... :2 cents:

No i didnt say i dont care if he fucked anyone else over, I stopped talking to perfection Jeff when i found out he did fuck so many people over, He lives about 5 minutes from my house and this new shoting manic person lives about 10 minutes away so Whats it gonan hurt if I go over there see who this guy really is and either a) put the story to rest that its someone else or b) come back with pictures and prove that its Jeff himself hiding behind this new nick. When people get screwed over in the industry and if i can help then I will do everything i can to help out. I know that Jeff screwed you over Fatal and if you want I know where he lives and don't mind takin you over there.

Thanks for the chat! :thumbsup

Oh no problem :) if you wanna come out to the "party" he is havign let me now we can figure out who this guy really is

I just might do that! I would love to fuck with this idiot! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

It is pretty clear tha is him..

Maybe he is not the guy shooting the pics, but Im 100% sure he is associated with that company, that nick, those sites!

I mean HUUUUUGE coincidence that he would use the nick perfection on lighstpeed, and when i had my shit with jeff ( he redirected some shit ) I clearly remember his aff user with lightspeed WAS perfection..

Dude.. You can go and have your photographer show up for you at that party and have everyone u want make it seem like u are not associated.. but it is pretty clear to ppl with 1/4 of a brain that it is you!!

Whoever wants to be scammed by him.. go ahead and keep on doing business.. I learned my lesson! :thumbsup

And abut the spelling, why is shooting_manic your handle and the text on your signature in yellow shooting maniAc ? (( of course u can go back and edit it, but im taking a screen grab just to prove ;) ))

hey jeff you never sent that money yet, like you promised 10 times.

"the checks in the mail"

you know her address.

You can run but you can't hide :2 cents:

100 exposed jeffs!

I thougth everybody already knew that long time ago....

To funny. See how liars can't stop lying. This a great example. He is just a piece of shit. I laughed at him many times when I said "bad" things about him on GFY. 5 minutes later he came on ICQ, please stop, I'm sending you traffic etc. Lol, like I needed his 3 hits.

because people are posting lots of proof that its the same guy, and you're completely ignoring it because you dont want your hopes of getting to hang out with a few skanky models with this imaginary guy at his lake house for the weekend shattered.

# Showing or characterized by a lack of sophistication and critical judgment

learn the proper use of lose / loss before you try and call me an idiot.

Brandon, Call me when your free to talk you have my cell #

Bump for justice.

will the real Perfection Jeff please stand up :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You have high hopes........... :2 cents:

Shap, I find it disturbing that you don't even give the accusations the benefit of a doubt. I don't know who this guy is or whether he is Perfection Jeff or not, but I think someone like you should really try to get things clarified for himself, just so this thing doesn't come back and bite you in the ass. You COULD be doing business with a known scammer and by saying that you don't care that he is one and will continue doing business with him, you're giving a slap in the face to all those who got fucked over by him, should he turn out to be the scammer some are claiming that he is. Some of those scammed by Perfection Jeff might well be your affiliates or even other honest people you might be doing business with. Think about it.

Its hot in Vegas today.

http://www.kaiserreich.com/files/tra...t/whocares.jpg
bitter, are we?

hey look another site on SM's server that promotes only perfectioncash sites:
http://www.soloteengirls.com/

same IP as the others http://www.whois.sc/soloteengirls.com

Time on you hands? :thumbsup

Yeah, another one of my domains and go figure, I would promote solo teen girls on a soloteengirls.com domain. Same frinking fpa as the other. Wow!
Holy shit, its on the same box as my other domains also. :1orglaugh

I have like 20 domains on that box... find them all and get a cookie.

:)

I own http://www.singleteengirl.com also.... look whats on there. Holy shit! A solo site!

oh crap :Oh crap

Well it forwards directly to caseycute with no ref code at all. About a year ago I got promo content from "Perfection Jeff" for both caseycute and baileysbed while chatting with him on icq, before I learned of his rep and found out these sites don't convert on my traffic.

Now you're sending traffic to caseycute with no ref code, which means you're only making money from it if you own it or get a cut from the owner - and BaileysBed is on PerfectionCash.

So one site is on PerfectionCash and the other on Dubcash.

Yet when I spoke with Perfection Jeff he was taking care of both baileysbed and caseycute at the same time. Meaning either you and Jeff are the same person or you are or were working together on the sites.

This I have to see. Post the logs. I have never had anything to do with baileysbed and I shot caseycute in march for dubcash and yes, I am a partner in the caseycute site so no need for a ref code.

Well I did just look up those caseycute gals I made and found that was only 6 months ago, not a year as I had said, but I did get have an icq chat w/ PJ about these sites... I was after members content for the promo & he kept trying to get me to post NN pics only or something and made starnge comments which is why I remember it so vividly... and I would be glad to post the ICQ converstion I had with him if I had the logs. For that matter maybe I do have them & don't know where they're located, don't see anything in program files/icqlite though

Oh is that so? heres some icq logs (as if there isnt enough proof this guy is perfection jeff)

i'm curious to what kind of lies you will come up with this time?

http://www.beemk.com/pj1.jpg

http://www.beemk.com/pj2.jpg

Shap, I agree with DX :disgust

Post a pic of yourself on your machine.