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Old 08-12-2005, 03:26 PM   #51
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Old 08-12-2005, 03:40 PM   #52
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post a picture of yourself with one of your models holding a sign that says "iam not perfection jeff" and we will all believe you, this will put it all to rest.

bush up on my vocabulary? what for, i am aware they are both words. but your ICQ nick is maniac. so which is it douche bag?
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Old 08-12-2005, 03:44 PM   #53
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I met Shooting Manic a couple of months ago, he seem like a nice guy. There was never any reference of him being this Perfection Jeff Character. What sparked your interest in bringing this news to everyone's attention?

I did a search on the old perfection Jeff threads and there are similarities. But I am sure if you compare my posts to someone who is selling penis pills you would find the same. I found a prior thread where he stated that he was not Perfection Jeff. Without evidence I am going to have to keep my same views.
ok, someone will dig up a pic of the old jeff, and you can see if its the same person.
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Old 08-12-2005, 03:58 PM   #54
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THIS IS PERFECTION JEFF.

is that the same guy you met recently?
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Old 08-12-2005, 04:18 PM   #55
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post a picture of yourself with one of your models holding a sign that says "iam not perfection jeff" and we will all believe you, this will put it all to rest.

bush up on my vocabulary? what for, i am aware they are both words. but your ICQ nick is maniac. so which is it douche bag?

Its brush up and my icq is shooting manic you dipshit. thats how it is registered.
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Old 08-12-2005, 04:19 PM   #56
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THIS IS PERFECTION JEFF.

is that the same guy you met recently?

LOLOLOLOL! Holy fuck! No wonder you give this guy shit!


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Old 08-12-2005, 04:23 PM   #58
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Old 08-12-2005, 04:25 PM   #59
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LOLOLOLOL! Holy fuck! No wonder you give this guy shit!


yea, pretty much he is a class ASS.
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other then the shaving thing with ccbill, does jeff still owe people money?
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other then the shaving thing with ccbill, does jeff still owe people money?
yes he does, thats one of the reasones he changed his nick to shooting manic
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yes he does, thats one of the reasones he changed his nick to shooting manic
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Pics of Perfection Jeff, mind you these go back about 2 yrs, and btw I have No problems with Jeff at this point.Anything that was between us has been settled







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JFK to the rescue.

NoJob, is this the asshole that you once met?
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i just saw some more proof from an un-named source on icq. its definitely him.
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Shooting Manic - are you saying you are not Perfection Jeff?
damn he didnt answer you, bump for an answer. i dont think hes said that he isnt perfection jeff yet.

so where the answer manic? are you perfection jeff? yes or no?
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http://whois.sc/perfectionteens.com

http://whois.sc/dreamsweetly.com

Lightspeed Affiliate ID: perfection

Not surprised people are wondering... I know I became suspicious of this after so much trouble getting paid.
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Pics of Perfection Jeff, mind you these go back about 2 yrs, and btw I have No problems with Jeff at this point.Anything that was between us has been settled







How coud you not trust a face like that?
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Actually Jeff lived /lives in Michigan when I dealings with him
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You all still at it?

Please, get a life. How in the world to you think this even sort of matters to me? I've invited several people out to my studio and home for a party and to set this rumor aside once and for all. Now, thanks to JFK we all can see what the guy looks like.

You can sit here and speculate all you like. It's a riot actually.

So, as I stated above, come on out, meet me, hang with the models, ride the boat and jetskis and have a ball, on me. If you arnt willing to do that someone must be paying you to discredit me. Or, you are so bitter about your own miserable life that attacking hard working , successful people is the only thing that makes you feel good when you fall asleep at night.

The party is the 27th, all day long. All the beer, booze, boats and babes you can handle. Be there or be very gay!


All four of these girls will be there plus several more.

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Old 08-12-2005, 05:39 PM   #72
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http://whois.sc/perfectionteens.com

http://whois.sc/dreamsweetly.com

Lightspeed Affiliate ID: perfection

Not surprised people are wondering... I know I became suspicious of this after so much trouble getting paid.
PerfectionTeens.com (a Perfection Jeff site) IP address: 64.38.198.23
DreamSweetly.com (a Shooting Manic site) IP address:64.38.198.23

Funny how these 'different people' both use the EXACT SAME SERVER.
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PerfectionTeens.com (a Perfection Jeff site) IP address: 64.38.198.23
DreamSweetly.com (a Shooting Manic site) IP address:64.38.198.23

Funny how these 'different people' both use the EXACT SAME SERVER.
Nice Work Columbo.
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PerfectionTeens.com (a Perfection Jeff site) IP address: 64.38.198.23
DreamSweetly.com (a Shooting Manic site) IP address:64.38.198.23

Funny how these 'different people' both use the EXACT SAME SERVER.

I own perfectionteens, what about it? Yes, I keep them on the same server, so, do you keep each of your domains on different boxes? Should i list all the other domains I have on that box? Since a couple of you living in moms basement seem to have a ton of time on your hands, maybe you can tie to me the Pope also.

I have no affiliation what so ever with perfection girls or cash or whatever it is. I have sent traffic way back when I first started playing with sending traffic. I had a name similar to that program so I used it for typins. I don't even think that domain is even live anymore or has anything on it for that matter.

How do you guys make a living anyways?



Anyways, hope to meet some of you on the 27th.

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I don't even think that domain is even live anymore or has anything on it for that matter.
You just deleted everything a few minutes ago before anyone grabbed screencaps. So if it is as you say then why are you feigning ignorance about what's on it?

There's still a screencap of your site available here though: http://whois.sc/perfectionteens.com
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You just deleted everything a few minutes ago before anyone grabbed screencaps. So if it is as you say then why are you feigning ignorance about what's on it?

There's still a screencap of your site available here though: http://whois.sc/perfectionteens.com

Wow, you are AMAZING! LOLOLOLOL!

Dont you think I know what was on my domain? Yeah so what? I seen that screencap, its a fpa from that program. So? Your point?

Night all, you are a riot.

If i had as much time on my hands as a couple of you kids do, I would be lving in a cardboard box.


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Wow, you are AMAZING! LOLOLOLOL!

Dont you think I know what was on my domain? Yeah so what? I seen that screencap, its a fpa from that program. So? Your point?
My point is that you're avoiding the question. Namely, why are you feigning ignorance of what was on your site. You just removed the pages from the domain earlier tonight then you claimed you didn't even know what was on it anymore.

Maybe if you post a few pics of girls again or try to insult someone you think this will be forgotten?
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why not give why a call and he should be able to tell from the voice
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nice shirt erik has in that pic
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My point is that you're avoiding the question. Namely, why are you feigning ignorance of what was on your site. You just removed the pages from the domain earlier tonight then you claimed you didn't even know what was on it anymore.

Maybe if you post a few pics of girls again or try to insult someone you think this will be forgotten?

First off, Ive never insulted anyone in this thread that has not unjustly attacked me. Second, I did not claim ignorance of what was on that domain. Read what I wrote again. I made it very clear that I sent them traffic and since I had a similar name to a site they had, I thought I would gain and pick up some typin traffic from it. That fpa was one I got from that cash site. I said I didnt think that was live anymore or if anything was still on it. I didnt say I didnt know what was on it. Take another look at what i wrote.

I post girls because thats what i do. I posted them in this thread inviting all the people making their accusations to come on out to a party we will have in their honor and put the rumor to rest once and for all. You act as if I started this thread. Once my name is used its open season for me to take advantage of its use.

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haha was that the 80's?
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why not give why a call and he should be able to tell from the voice

Come on man. Do you really think it matters if WHY gives me a thumbs up or not? Who is he anyways? Some spammer I have been told today is all I know. Does he buy content? No! Would he even have the budget to order from me if he did? Not enough for one set I would guess.

My clients know me and I can tell you they are all very happy and we are LFAO at this thread. One of my clients even took time out of his day to post in this thread.

Why ask me to get a picture of me, with the some models, holding a sign saying.. "I'm not perfection jeff" I will see what I can do about getting that tomorrow during a shoot we have scheduled. LOL What a joke that I have to take time of of my day to jump through a hoop for some kid named 'WHY" I'm asking myself the same question..... WHY?

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First off, Ive never insulted anyone in this thread that has not unjustly attacked me.
Well it's not an 'unjust' attack when it's fairly obvious that's whats being claimed is true.

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Second, I did not claim ignorance of what was on that domain. Read what I wrote again.
"I don't even think that domain is even live anymore or has anything on it for that matter."

You said you "don't even think"; yet you obviously knew exactly what was on it since you had just deleted the pages minutes earlier.

That's all I was asking about. To be perfectly honest, I really don't care if you are Perfection Jeff since I don't have any reason to deal with either of you. I just found the contradiction a little amusing. Perhaps that you dedicated an entire domain to his sites is merely as you say coincidence.
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Thing is, either does anyone else in this thread except for Shap and well, you can read his remarks about me and the type of business I run on page one if this thread. Yet, here we are.

Shap, and my other clients are the only opinions that matters to me. Hense, this thread is meaningless and a waste of time for everyone involved.

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I will go to this party and see whats up I have met Jeff before at a starbucks to talk business and i know him, so I will see who this guy is and if its the same guy I will post it in here if its a differnt guy I will let you guys know.
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I will go to this party and see whats up I have met Jeff before at a starbucks to talk business and i know him, so I will see who this guy is and if its the same guy I will post it in here if its a differnt guy I will let you guys know.
are you fucking kidding me? did you not see all the proof in this thread? if this guy cant go out of his way to use different server/birthday/affiliate program codes.... then im sure he wont go out of his way to hire anyone to pretend like they're "shooting manic". and no i will not go out of my way to hang out with someone that scams people and make plans for the weekend.
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are you fucking kidding me? did you not see all the proof in this thread? if this guy cant go out of his way to use different server/birthday/affiliate program codes.... then im sure he wont go out of his way to hire anyone to pretend like they're "shooting manic". and no i will not go out of my way to hang out with someone that scams people and make plans for the weekend.
Brandon whats the big lose? you go to a lake house have some drinks and fuck wit the models if its him big deal if its not then its all kool.
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Interesting thread! Yes Jeff..........I'm still here! And will be asshole!
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Brandon whats the big lose? you go to a lake house have some drinks and fuck wit the models if its him big deal if its not then its all kool.
sorry to hear that you're so naive.
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I will go to this party and see whats up I have met Jeff before at a starbucks to talk business and i know him, so I will see who this guy is and if its the same guy I will post it in here if its a differnt guy I will let you guys know.
If you want to be associated with scum like him, good for you
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How does that make me Naive you idiot, I can care less who it is Jeff never did anything wrong against me so If i go party and have fun is that a Lose?
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How does that make me Naive you idiot, I can care less who it is Jeff never did anything wrong against me so If i go party and have fun is that a Lose?
wow, maybe I'm wrong but it sure as hell sounded like you just said, he didn't fuck me over...so why do I care who he did fuck over?????? As long as I can party..am I wrong??? or what did you mean??? might want to ask around who the fuck I know first...........
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Old 08-13-2005, 04:10 AM   #94
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No i didnt say i dont care if he fucked anyone else over, I stopped talking to perfection Jeff when i found out he did fuck so many people over, He lives about 5 minutes from my house and this new shoting manic person lives about 10 minutes away so Whats it gonan hurt if I go over there see who this guy really is and either a) put the story to rest that its someone else or b) come back with pictures and prove that its Jeff himself hiding behind this new nick. When people get screwed over in the industry and if i can help then I will do everything i can to help out. I know that Jeff screwed you over Fatal and if you want I know where he lives and don't mind takin you over there.
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Old 08-13-2005, 04:34 AM   #95
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No i didnt say i dont care if he fucked anyone else over, I stopped talking to perfection Jeff when i found out he did fuck so many people over, He lives about 5 minutes from my house and this new shoting manic person lives about 10 minutes away so Whats it gonan hurt if I go over there see who this guy really is and either a) put the story to rest that its someone else or b) come back with pictures and prove that its Jeff himself hiding behind this new nick. When people get screwed over in the industry and if i can help then I will do everything i can to help out. I know that Jeff screwed you over Fatal and if you want I know where he lives and don't mind takin you over there.

Thanks for the chat!
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Old 08-13-2005, 04:35 AM   #96
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Oh no problem if you wanna come out to the "party" he is havign let me now we can figure out who this guy really is
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Old 08-13-2005, 04:50 AM   #97
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Oh no problem if you wanna come out to the "party" he is havign let me now we can figure out who this guy really is
I just might do that! I would love to fuck with this idiot!
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Old 08-13-2005, 07:32 AM   #98
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It is pretty clear tha is him..

Maybe he is not the guy shooting the pics, but Im 100% sure he is associated with that company, that nick, those sites!

I mean HUUUUUGE coincidence that he would use the nick perfection on lighstpeed, and when i had my shit with jeff ( he redirected some shit ) I clearly remember his aff user with lightspeed WAS perfection..

Dude.. You can go and have your photographer show up for you at that party and have everyone u want make it seem like u are not associated.. but it is pretty clear to ppl with 1/4 of a brain that it is you!!

Whoever wants to be scammed by him.. go ahead and keep on doing business.. I learned my lesson!

And abut the spelling, why is shooting_manic your handle and the text on your signature in yellow shooting maniAc ? (( of course u can go back and edit it, but im taking a screen grab just to prove ;) ))
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Old 08-13-2005, 07:36 AM   #99
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Read this and either take me up on my offer of a free flight from anywhere in the U.S. I will cover all your travel expenses here and you can party with our models and on the lake with us all weekend. If you can't do that then it's clear you have some other agenda, or, well, youre gay.

"Ive invited a local guy (beemk?) to my home for a party as well as offered to fly another guy (RRACY) who said the same exact thing to put this rumor to rest once and for all. Neither have taken me up on my offer. I will extend this offer again here. Come to my lake home, stay the weekend, help me shoot. Use the boat and jetskis, party with our models. You can come put this rumor to rest once and for all."
hey jeff you never sent that money yet, like you promised 10 times.

"the checks in the mail"

you know her address.
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