What would you think about a company who did this? - GoFuckYourself.com

AaronM · 08-11-2005, 08:14 AM

If a company gave your contact info out to somebody if they inquired about your ref code......Would that be OK with you or.......?

I'm talking about giving out your name, address, and phone number to a random, private party.

Would tha sit well with you?

EroticySteve · 08-11-2005, 08:16 AM

Not a cool move.

fatal attraction · 08-11-2005, 08:16 AM

Hell no!

Tera · 08-11-2005, 08:21 AM

Wow we would never do that, EVER.

If somebody inquires about an affiliate code, either to do business with that person or out of curiosity, I always contact the person attatched to the affiliate code first. And leave it up to that person to contact the other person if all parties are okay with it.

If it's a processor asking about an affiliate code then thats another story and it goes on a case by case basis depending on the situation.

That is personal information and should never be given out to just anybody. People sign up to affiliate programs expecting a certain level of privacy

Dirty Dane · 08-11-2005, 08:27 AM

It would be illegal here, unless the recorded person gave permission to do so.

Linkster · 08-11-2005, 08:27 AM

More than just respecting their privacy - most reputable programs put a legal blurb in their TOS that states they will not give out any private info - it would definitely be something that someone could get bit on

ronaldo · 08-11-2005, 08:35 AM

I refuse to even give out someone's icq number unless they've told me it's okay.

Now if I KNOW both parties extremely well and it could be a mutually beneficial relationship, at BEST I'd give them an email that they could contact them through.

I may also go the extra mile and phone someone and see if it's OKAY to pass out that information, but never would I hand out someones personal contact information to someone without prior consent from that party.

sherie · 08-11-2005, 08:37 AM

No freaking way!

mortenb · 08-11-2005, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

It would be illegal here, unless the recorded person gave permission to do so.

What he said.

Sosa · 08-11-2005, 08:39 AM

fuck that. I'd be pissed off

american pervert · 08-11-2005, 08:40 AM

Depends if the person was a scammer.. .if they were, yes. I would give it out to help protect other programs

vicki · 08-11-2005, 08:40 AM

Python gave out a spammers name, address, and CELL phone number to the journalist from a TV 'news' show. This was in Canada's jurisdiction and aired only a few days ago

was it right ?? heck if I know but the spammer was not following their TOS... sooooo, you decide

mardigras · 08-11-2005, 08:41 AM

Is this to do with the investigative report on TV?

I do think it should be allowed if the person is breaking laws but only under subpaoena by authorized law enforcement officials.

iwantchixx · 08-11-2005, 08:41 AM

Not one bit cool at all. The only way I would be cool with it is if the company contacted me and got my permission first.

Azlord · 08-11-2005, 08:42 AM

hrm... I think I see where you are going with this.

beemk · 08-11-2005, 08:47 AM

not unless there was a court order would it be acceptable. who did this?

RogerV · 08-11-2005, 08:49 AM

nobody knows who did it?

SAM SIYC · 08-11-2005, 08:50 AM

No way!!

very unprofessional!
i wonder if you can sue them actually!

wedouglas · 08-11-2005, 08:50 AM

Yeah, if wanted to violate my TOS...

gopsycho · 08-11-2005, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicki

Python gave out a spammers name, address, and CELL phone number to the journalist from a TV 'news' show. This was in Canada's jurisdiction and aired only a few days ago

was it right ?? heck if I know but the spammer was not following their TOS... sooooo, you decide

I think that it's crazy that they gave out that guys info. It's not like they gave it out because they were ordered to by a court. They gave it out to a reporter who ASKED them for the info. They guy may very well have been violating there TOS, but come on... giving out his info like that was just wrong.

BuggyG · 08-11-2005, 08:55 AM

nah.. it's a no-no in my books

AaronM · 08-11-2005, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicki

Python gave out a spammers name, address, and CELL phone number to the journalist from a TV 'news' show. This was in Canada's jurisdiction and aired only a few days ago

Really? Who knew?

Dateline what?

brand0n · 08-11-2005, 09:04 AM

seems like breach of trust... if u ask me

AaronM · 08-11-2005, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopsycho

I think that it's crazy that they gave out that guys info. It's not like they gave it out because they were ordered to by a court. They gave it out to a reporter who ASKED them for the info. They guy may very well have been violating there TOS, but come on... giving out his info like that was just wrong.

Although I fully agree with your statement......I know that report twisted some facts and made certain people out to be things that they are not. So....I will be giving Python the benefit of the doubt in this case. Perhaps they did contact the guy and ask first. God knows the media doesn't know how to be subjective and tell the entire truth with stories like this.

As far as the story goes...At the end of the day, they found the spammer but they never seemed to care how the spammer actually got the specific person's email in the first place.

vicki · 08-11-2005, 09:09 AM

I know of a domain registrar (popular with this industry) that was offered a high 5 digit sum at a Vegas convention - to turn over a list of 'porn' domains so the buyer could add them into their database for one of the most popular website blocking software suites available at the time.

The domain registrar flat out told them NO
After the sw guys walked away I asked him why he refused since it was only the domain names and not the owner details.
He said simply, "My customers privacy comes above everything else."

I follow the same rule, I sign (and have my customers sign) an NDA. I'm legally bound to keeping their information PRIVATE.

Its just good business imho

Manowar · 08-11-2005, 09:13 AM

no fucking way

Robx · 08-11-2005, 09:15 AM

Especially in this industry, I think that privacy is important. If someone wants to give out their information, they will. If not, they would much rather stay anonymous for any number of reasons.

I think that you'd loose a lot of respect if you gave out customer information in any industry. However, in Adult, most people (especially the people who haven't been around long) would much rather deal with a company they could trust and respect.

Brujah · 08-11-2005, 09:17 AM

Will we ever know which company does these things and what their reasons for doing it are ?

nojob · 08-11-2005, 09:23 AM

I'll Never Tellll.

AaronM · 08-11-2005, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

Will we ever know which company does these......

Read the thread....THEN reply.

SouthernGirl · 08-11-2005, 09:26 AM

definitely not cool

justsexxx · 08-11-2005, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicki

I know of a domain registrar (popular with this industry) that was offered a high 5 digit sum at a Vegas convention - to turn over a list of 'porn' domains so the buyer could add them into their database for one of the most popular website blocking software suites available at the time.

The domain registrar flat out told them NO
After the sw guys walked away I asked him why he refused since it was only the domain names and not the owner details.
He said simply, "My customers privacy comes above everything else."

I follow the same rule, I sign (and have my customers sign) an NDA. I'm legally bound to keeping their information PRIVATE.

Its just good business imho

Which registrar was this? I have to move a couple of domains, and I like them already...

Yngwie · 08-11-2005, 09:30 AM

that would piss me off and has pissed me off since it happened. I won't get into that story though.

TheLegacy · 08-11-2005, 09:37 AM

I spoke with Aly and Judson right after the show after watching it and I know the owners and crew at Python personally and stand behind them on this one. Python I feel did nothing against their policies and Im sure that Rich and Dave spent a long time with lawyers etc. and the team before all this took place. It was a "damned if you do, damned if you dont" situation - and Python is going to side with not being associated with those who spam... as does most programs who have in their policy.

I do wonder if it ever would have made it to TV is they refused to send the information

Sarah_Jayne · 08-11-2005, 09:38 AM

I would not be a happy camper.

Pete-KT · 08-11-2005, 09:40 AM

Nope not ok with it, My email is always sold though from other afilaite programs and I know this because I use a differnt one for each affiliate that i signup for.

vicki · 08-11-2005, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Which registrar was this? I have to move a couple of domains, and I like them already...

It was Gord from www.domainnamesystems.com

old school and still the best service

Bigdogg · 08-11-2005, 09:57 AM

Yea, I saw dateline show.. I think it was fuck up what they did.. They should have never gave out his info without court order.. I wouldnt promote them again.. thats for sure..

Peaches · 08-11-2005, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicki

It was Gord from www.domainnamesystems.com

old school and still the best service

I beg to differ, but that's another story on its own

Shoehorn! · 08-11-2005, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

If a company gave your contact info out to somebody if they inquired about your ref code......Would that be OK with you or.......?

I'm talking about giving out your name, address, and phone number to a random, private party.

Would tha sit well with you?

I'd be pissed.

Brujah · 08-11-2005, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

Read the thread....THEN reply.

You started the thread. I did read the thread. You didn't (as usual) provide any details. More fake drama ?

If you meant the Python incident, I'm surprised someone didn't post the TIMELINE since it was news weeks ago.

Unlike others, I DO read threads before I reply.

vicki · 08-11-2005, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

I beg to differ, but that's another story on its own

ok don't tell him I used the word 'OLD' when referring to him hahahahha

now that I think about it, that was the vegas convention when I first met you at his booth! .... boy am I aging myself here lol

SleazyDream · 08-11-2005, 10:45 AM

ummmm, let me get this straight - do you think it's OK protect those people who do things like illegailly SPAM and jepordise your company and TOS?

DaLord · 08-11-2005, 10:46 AM

I'm pretty sure my viking temper would explode all over. That's truely a shitty thing to do.

RayVega · 08-11-2005, 10:50 AM

Not cool at all.

crockett · 08-11-2005, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

If a company gave your contact info out to somebody if they inquired about your ref code......Would that be OK with you or.......?

I'm talking about giving out your name, address, and phone number to a random, private party.

Would tha sit well with you?

depends if it was dateline or not..

DaddyHalbucks · 08-11-2005, 10:51 AM

The registrar MONIKER is also very good about keeping client information private.

08-11-2005, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

ummmm, let me get this straight - do you think it's OK protect those people who do things like illegailly SPAM and jepordise your company and TOS?

Since they are a Canadian company, it's quite possible they broke some laws by giving that info out. (PIPEDA)

Of course the person deserves to get fucked, but they might have opened themselves up to some problems by doing that.

Peaches · 08-11-2005, 12:30 PM

Many suspect it wasn't really a true webmaster, but a shill for the TV show. But I've only heard rumors, no facts.

08-11-2005, 08:14 AM	#1
AaronM GFY Royality ;) Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,921	What would you think about a company who did this? If a company gave your contact info out to somebody if they inquired about your ref code......Would that be OK with you or.......? I'm talking about giving out your name, address, and phone number to a random, private party. Would tha sit well with you?

08-11-2005, 08:16 AM	#2
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08-11-2005, 08:21 AM	#4
Tera Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 1,426	Wow we would never do that, EVER. If somebody inquires about an affiliate code, either to do business with that person or out of curiosity, I always contact the person attatched to the affiliate code first. And leave it up to that person to contact the other person if all parties are okay with it. If it's a processor asking about an affiliate code then thats another story and it goes on a case by case basis depending on the situation. That is personal information and should never be given out to just anybody. People sign up to affiliate programs expecting a certain level of privacy __________________ [email protected] ICQ 96593794

08-11-2005, 08:27 AM	#5
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08-11-2005, 08:27 AM	#6
Linkster Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: DeltaHell Posts: 3,216	More than just respecting their privacy - most reputable programs put a legal blurb in their TOS that states they will not give out any private info - it would definitely be something that someone could get bit on __________________ Porn Links Crak for your bank account - Get Addicted FREE LIVE CAM SHOWS

08-11-2005, 08:16 AM	#3
fatal attraction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: where ever he is! Posts: 6,522	Hell no!

08-11-2005, 08:35 AM	#7
ronaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ#: 272000271 Posts: 5,475	I refuse to even give out someone's icq number unless they've told me it's okay. Now if I KNOW both parties extremely well and it could be a mutually beneficial relationship, at BEST I'd give them an email that they could contact them through. I may also go the extra mile and phone someone and see if it's OKAY to pass out that information, but never would I hand out someones personal contact information to someone without prior consent from that party.

08-11-2005, 08:37 AM	#8
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08-11-2005, 08:39 AM	#10
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08-11-2005, 08:40 AM	#11
american pervert Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,834	Depends if the person was a scammer.. .if they were, yes. I would give it out to help protect other programs __________________ I can resist everything except temptation

08-11-2005, 08:40 AM	#12
vicki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Deep in the heart o' Texas Posts: 1,478	Python gave out a spammers name, address, and CELL phone number to the journalist from a TV 'news' show. This was in Canada's jurisdiction and aired only a few days ago was it right ?? heck if I know but the spammer was not following their TOS... sooooo, you decide __________________ If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment. HR merchant accounts from 3.45% solid biz since 98 victoriakozub AT gmail.com skype: victoria.kozub \| ICQ: 74296746

08-11-2005, 08:41 AM	#13
mardigras Bon temps! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: down yonder Posts: 14,194	Is this to do with the investigative report on TV? I do think it should be allowed if the person is breaking laws but only under subpaoena by authorized law enforcement officials. __________________ .

08-11-2005, 08:41 AM	#14
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	Not one bit cool at all. The only way I would be cool with it is if the company contacted me and got my permission first.

08-11-2005, 08:42 AM	#15
Azlord Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: City... City of Satan Posts: 2,651	hrm... I think I see where you are going with this.

08-11-2005, 08:47 AM	#16
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	not unless there was a court order would it be acceptable. who did this? __________________ I host with Vacares

08-11-2005, 08:49 AM	#17
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	nobody knows who did it?

08-11-2005, 08:50 AM	#18
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08-11-2005, 08:50 AM	#19
wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	Yeah, if wanted to violate my TOS...

08-11-2005, 08:55 AM	#21
BuggyG Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa Posts: 4,179	nah.. it's a no-no in my books

08-11-2005, 09:04 AM	#23
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	seems like breach of trust... if u ask me __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

08-11-2005, 09:09 AM	#25
vicki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Deep in the heart o' Texas Posts: 1,478	I know of a domain registrar (popular with this industry) that was offered a high 5 digit sum at a Vegas convention - to turn over a list of 'porn' domains so the buyer could add them into their database for one of the most popular website blocking software suites available at the time. The domain registrar flat out told them NO After the sw guys walked away I asked him why he refused since it was only the domain names and not the owner details. He said simply, "My customers privacy comes above everything else." I follow the same rule, I sign (and have my customers sign) an NDA. I'm legally bound to keeping their information PRIVATE. Its just good business imho __________________ If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment. HR merchant accounts from 3.45% solid biz since 98 victoriakozub AT gmail.com skype: victoria.kozub \| ICQ: 74296746 Last edited by vicki; 08-11-2005 at 09:11 AM..

08-11-2005, 09:13 AM	#26
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	no fucking way

08-11-2005, 09:15 AM	#27
Robx Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The middle of nowhere Posts: 357	Especially in this industry, I think that privacy is important. If someone wants to give out their information, they will. If not, they would much rather stay anonymous for any number of reasons. I think that you'd loose a lot of respect if you gave out customer information in any industry. However, in Adult, most people (especially the people who haven't been around long) would much rather deal with a company they could trust and respect. __________________ Contact Us About Getting Your Paysites Exposed To Millions Of People On The Peer To Peer Networks! ICQ 124-249-781

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08-11-2005, 09:23 AM	#29
nojob The Original NoJob Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Jerzzey Posts: 3,682	I'll Never Tellll.

08-11-2005, 09:26 AM	#31
SouthernGirl So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: rural TN Posts: 615	definitely not cool

08-11-2005, 09:30 AM	#33
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08-11-2005, 09:37 AM	#34
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08-11-2005, 09:38 AM	#35
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08-11-2005, 09:40 AM	#36
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	Nope not ok with it, My email is always sold though from other afilaite programs and I know this because I use a differnt one for each affiliate that i signup for.

08-11-2005, 09:57 AM	#38
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08-11-2005, 10:45 AM	#43
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08-11-2005, 10:46 AM	#44
DaLord Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,318	I'm pretty sure my viking temper would explode all over. That's truely a shitty thing to do.

08-11-2005, 10:50 AM	#45
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08-11-2005, 10:51 AM	#47
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