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AaronM 08-11-2005 08:14 AM

What would you think about a company who did this?
 
If a company gave your contact info out to somebody if they inquired about your ref code......Would that be OK with you or.......?

I'm talking about giving out your name, address, and phone number to a random, private party.

Would tha sit well with you?

EroticySteve 08-11-2005 08:16 AM

Not a cool move.

fatal attraction 08-11-2005 08:16 AM

Hell no! :mad:

Tera 08-11-2005 08:21 AM

Wow we would never do that, EVER.

If somebody inquires about an affiliate code, either to do business with that person or out of curiosity, I always contact the person attatched to the affiliate code first. And leave it up to that person to contact the other person if all parties are okay with it.

If it's a processor asking about an affiliate code then thats another story and it goes on a case by case basis depending on the situation.

That is personal information and should never be given out to just anybody. People sign up to affiliate programs expecting a certain level of privacy

Dirty Dane 08-11-2005 08:27 AM

It would be illegal here, unless the recorded person gave permission to do so.

Linkster 08-11-2005 08:27 AM

More than just respecting their privacy - most reputable programs put a legal blurb in their TOS that states they will not give out any private info - it would definitely be something that someone could get bit on

ronaldo 08-11-2005 08:35 AM

I refuse to even give out someone's icq number unless they've told me it's okay.

Now if I KNOW both parties extremely well and it could be a mutually beneficial relationship, at BEST I'd give them an email that they could contact them through.

I may also go the extra mile and phone someone and see if it's OKAY to pass out that information, but never would I hand out someones personal contact information to someone without prior consent from that party.

sherie 08-11-2005 08:37 AM

No freaking way!

mortenb 08-11-2005 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
It would be illegal here, unless the recorded person gave permission to do so.

What he said.

Sosa 08-11-2005 08:39 AM

fuck that. I'd be pissed off

american pervert 08-11-2005 08:40 AM

Depends if the person was a scammer.. .if they were, yes. I would give it out to help protect other programs

vicki 08-11-2005 08:40 AM

Python gave out a spammers name, address, and CELL phone number to the journalist from a TV 'news' show. This was in Canada's jurisdiction and aired only a few days ago

was it right ?? heck if I know but the spammer was not following their TOS... sooooo, you decide

mardigras 08-11-2005 08:41 AM

Is this to do with the investigative report on TV? :upsidedow
I do think it should be allowed if the person is breaking laws but only under subpaoena by authorized law enforcement officials.

iwantchixx 08-11-2005 08:41 AM

Not one bit cool at all. The only way I would be cool with it is if the company contacted me and got my permission first.

Azlord 08-11-2005 08:42 AM

hrm... I think I see where you are going with this.

beemk 08-11-2005 08:47 AM

not unless there was a court order would it be acceptable. who did this?

RogerV 08-11-2005 08:49 AM

nobody knows who did it?

SAM SIYC 08-11-2005 08:50 AM

No way!!

very unprofessional!
i wonder if you can sue them actually!

wedouglas 08-11-2005 08:50 AM

Yeah, if wanted to violate my TOS...

gopsycho 08-11-2005 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicki
Python gave out a spammers name, address, and CELL phone number to the journalist from a TV 'news' show. This was in Canada's jurisdiction and aired only a few days ago

was it right ?? heck if I know but the spammer was not following their TOS... sooooo, you decide

I think that it's crazy that they gave out that guys info. It's not like they gave it out because they were ordered to by a court. They gave it out to a reporter who ASKED them for the info. They guy may very well have been violating there TOS, but come on... giving out his info like that was just wrong.

BuggyG 08-11-2005 08:55 AM

nah.. it's a no-no in my books

AaronM 08-11-2005 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicki
Python gave out a spammers name, address, and CELL phone number to the journalist from a TV 'news' show. This was in Canada's jurisdiction and aired only a few days ago


Really? Who knew? :glugglug

Dateline what?

brand0n 08-11-2005 09:04 AM

seems like breach of trust... if u ask me

AaronM 08-11-2005 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopsycho
I think that it's crazy that they gave out that guys info. It's not like they gave it out because they were ordered to by a court. They gave it out to a reporter who ASKED them for the info. They guy may very well have been violating there TOS, but come on... giving out his info like that was just wrong.



Although I fully agree with your statement......I know that report twisted some facts and made certain people out to be things that they are not. So....I will be giving Python the benefit of the doubt in this case. Perhaps they did contact the guy and ask first. God knows the media doesn't know how to be subjective and tell the entire truth with stories like this.

As far as the story goes...At the end of the day, they found the spammer but they never seemed to care how the spammer actually got the specific person's email in the first place.

vicki 08-11-2005 09:09 AM

I know of a domain registrar (popular with this industry) that was offered a high 5 digit sum at a Vegas convention - to turn over a list of 'porn' domains so the buyer could add them into their database for one of the most popular website blocking software suites available at the time.

The domain registrar flat out told them NO
After the sw guys walked away I asked him why he refused since it was only the domain names and not the owner details.
He said simply, "My customers privacy comes above everything else."

I follow the same rule, I sign (and have my customers sign) an NDA. I'm legally bound to keeping their information PRIVATE.

Its just good business imho

Manowar 08-11-2005 09:13 AM

no fucking way

Robx 08-11-2005 09:15 AM

Especially in this industry, I think that privacy is important. If someone wants to give out their information, they will. If not, they would much rather stay anonymous for any number of reasons.

I think that you'd loose a lot of respect if you gave out customer information in any industry. However, in Adult, most people (especially the people who haven't been around long) would much rather deal with a company they could trust and respect.

Brujah 08-11-2005 09:17 AM

Will we ever know which company does these things and what their reasons for doing it are ?

nojob 08-11-2005 09:23 AM

I'll Never Tellll.

AaronM 08-11-2005 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
Will we ever know which company does these......


Read the thread....THEN reply.

SouthernGirl 08-11-2005 09:26 AM

definitely not cool

justsexxx 08-11-2005 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicki
I know of a domain registrar (popular with this industry) that was offered a high 5 digit sum at a Vegas convention - to turn over a list of 'porn' domains so the buyer could add them into their database for one of the most popular website blocking software suites available at the time.

The domain registrar flat out told them NO
After the sw guys walked away I asked him why he refused since it was only the domain names and not the owner details.
He said simply, "My customers privacy comes above everything else."

I follow the same rule, I sign (and have my customers sign) an NDA. I'm legally bound to keeping their information PRIVATE.

Its just good business imho

Which registrar was this? I have to move a couple of domains, and I like them already...

Yngwie 08-11-2005 09:30 AM

that would piss me off and has pissed me off since it happened. I won't get into that story though.

TheLegacy 08-11-2005 09:37 AM

I spoke with Aly and Judson right after the show after watching it and I know the owners and crew at Python personally and stand behind them on this one. Python I feel did nothing against their policies and Im sure that Rich and Dave spent a long time with lawyers etc. and the team before all this took place. It was a "damned if you do, damned if you dont" situation - and Python is going to side with not being associated with those who spam... as does most programs who have in their policy.

I do wonder if it ever would have made it to TV is they refused to send the information

Sarah_Jayne 08-11-2005 09:38 AM

I would not be a happy camper.

Pete-KT 08-11-2005 09:40 AM

Nope not ok with it, My email is always sold though from other afilaite programs and I know this because I use a differnt one for each affiliate that i signup for.

vicki 08-11-2005 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
Which registrar was this? I have to move a couple of domains, and I like them already...


It was Gord from www.domainnamesystems.com


old school and still the best service

Bigdogg 08-11-2005 09:57 AM

Yea, I saw dateline show.. I think it was fuck up what they did.. They should have never gave out his info without court order.. I wouldnt promote them again.. thats for sure.. :2 cents:

Peaches 08-11-2005 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicki
It was Gord from www.domainnamesystems.com


old school and still the best service

I beg to differ, but that's another story on its own :thumbsup

Shoehorn! 08-11-2005 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
If a company gave your contact info out to somebody if they inquired about your ref code......Would that be OK with you or.......?

I'm talking about giving out your name, address, and phone number to a random, private party.

Would tha sit well with you?

I'd be pissed.

Brujah 08-11-2005 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Read the thread....THEN reply.

You started the thread. I did read the thread. You didn't (as usual) provide any details. More fake drama ?

If you meant the Python incident, I'm surprised someone didn't post the TIMELINE since it was news weeks ago.

Unlike others, I DO read threads before I reply.

vicki 08-11-2005 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches
I beg to differ, but that's another story on its own :thumbsup


ok don't tell him I used the word 'OLD' when referring to him hahahahha

now that I think about it, that was the vegas convention when I first met you at his booth! .... boy am I aging myself here lol

SleazyDream 08-11-2005 10:45 AM

ummmm, let me get this straight - do you think it's OK protect those people who do things like illegailly SPAM and jepordise your company and TOS?

DaLord 08-11-2005 10:46 AM

I'm pretty sure my viking temper would explode all over. That's truely a shitty thing to do.

RayVega 08-11-2005 10:50 AM

Not cool at all.

crockett 08-11-2005 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
If a company gave your contact info out to somebody if they inquired about your ref code......Would that be OK with you or.......?

I'm talking about giving out your name, address, and phone number to a random, private party.

Would tha sit well with you?


depends if it was dateline or not.. :winkwink:

DaddyHalbucks 08-11-2005 10:51 AM

The registrar MONIKER is also very good about keeping client information private.

evildick 08-11-2005 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
ummmm, let me get this straight - do you think it's OK protect those people who do things like illegailly SPAM and jepordise your company and TOS?

Since they are a Canadian company, it's quite possible they broke some laws by giving that info out. (PIPEDA)

Of course the person deserves to get fucked, but they might have opened themselves up to some problems by doing that.

Peaches 08-11-2005 12:30 PM

Many suspect it wasn't really a true webmaster, but a shill for the TV show. But I've only heard rumors, no facts.


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