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Old 02-07-2002, 02:56 AM   #1
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I'm selling traffic -- two banner spots.

I'm selling two banner spots -- both will be 160x240 and you can use supporting text -- I will change this text as often as I can for you, if needed. If you like, you can host the banner yourself so that you can switch the ads around. If you need to change the URL to send traffic to -- that is your responsibility to code a cgi redirect (very easy).

First banner spot $600 (thefly)
160x240 banner on first page (top) of http://www.thefly.net/topfly.html (25,000 visitors/day)

Second banner spot $400 (socalsweets)
160x240 banner on first page (top left margin) of
http://www.socalsweets.com/models.html (20,000 visitors/day)

You can look at the trades on these sites. This is not bookmark traffic. The majority of this traffic is from non-blind link trades.

I will not be offering samples of the traffic. Payment in advance by wire will be accepted only for 30 days of advertising on my sites. If you are interested -- reply in this thread. I will accept the most appealing offer.

Maximum file size of banner ~15k (.jpeg or .gif)

The reason I am selling this traffic is because of the problems with IBill -- I don't know who to trust with my traffic.

Any questions, please post here or email [email protected]

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Old 02-07-2002, 03:01 AM   #2
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nice!

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Old 02-07-2002, 07:25 AM   #3
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How bout I give you $0.50 and you let me wank to those nacked pic's of your mom that you have??

Unless you can get em to me cheaper Bone.. I know you have the whole collection hidden away somewhere.. hehe


Good offer Fly.. Im gonna have to pass though..
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Old 02-07-2002, 07:30 AM   #4
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I might of misunderstood, but how can you charge 600 dollars to run an add on a site that only gets 25,000 visitors/day ?
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Old 02-07-2002, 12:55 PM   #5
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Many months that $600 spot makes well over $1000 on an affiliate program -- (after shaving, etc.) -- I guess you don't know what good traffic is worth.
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Old 02-07-2002, 12:59 PM   #6
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I'll have to agree with TheFly, that is about what it's worth. I have a site that gets around the same hits and what he's asking sounds about right.
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Old 02-07-2002, 01:32 PM   #7
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I would be interested but I have to pay my taxes!

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Old 02-07-2002, 01:43 PM   #8
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hahaha riiight, I have over 60,000 Bookmarkers alone on my one site, plus about 50k in trades to it everyday.... And thats only one out of my 4... I control about 500k unique a day and send about 2000 signups a month... I guess my traffic sucks I guess I could technically charge 5000 a month for a stupid little banner ad?
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Old 02-07-2002, 02:12 PM   #9
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hahaha riiight, I have over 60,000 Bookmarkers alone on my one site, plus about 50k in trades to it everyday.... And thats only one out of my 4... I control about 500k unique a day and send about 2000 signups a month... I guess my traffic sucks I guess I could technically charge 5000 a month for a stupid little banner ad?

It's not about the counter numbers, it's about the quality of traffic.

Petes traffic kicks ass. It's not your typical TGP or Movie site traffic.
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Old 02-07-2002, 02:17 PM   #10
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Hmm then why are you crying? Your traffic must suck.

$600/month is only $20/day -- even on Amateur Pages Click-Pic program that's only 333 clickthroughs/day at $.06 -- that's no problem for a banner at the top of a 25k site -- unless you got a lot of shit lolita or hardcore traffic...
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Old 02-07-2002, 02:19 PM   #11
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hahaha riiight, I have over 60,000 Bookmarkers alone on my one site, plus about 50k in trades to it everyday.... And thats only one out of my 4... I control about 500k unique a day and send about 2000 signups a month... I guess my traffic sucks I guess I could technically charge 5000 a month for a stupid little banner ad?
Let's see your 500k lolita uniques/day...
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Old 02-07-2002, 02:22 PM   #12
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Looking at most of these new large sites at their refferers lists, they all have at least 2-3 hitbotters they are trading with. They have no fucking clue that the traffic they recieve and shoot out is pure shit.
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Old 02-07-2002, 02:27 PM   #13
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Looking at most of these new large sites at their refferers lists, they all have at least 2-3 hitbotters they are trading with. They have no fucking clue that the traffic they recieve and shoot out is pure shit.
agreed.
also, thefly is there since some years and I remember the traffic he sent to my sites back then was top notch
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Old 02-07-2002, 03:32 PM   #14
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I dont ever like to judge a webmaster on his site. but how the hell do you get 20k quality traffic when all your links at
http://www.socalsweets.com/models.html

go to sites without galleries, Boneprone and your amateurpages link ? I would visit once and never again?

I mean no offense to this post, just pointing out the obvious...

I own a bunch of large movieposts, not any of that lolita or hardcore shit... I only trade with the best and I do know them quite well.... SpermShack, Insane, Ramis, VidsVidsVids and so on..

My site is also totally sponsored, Right down to the hosting
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Old 02-07-2002, 04:13 PM   #15
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It because its 98% chineese Traffic!

The shit converts like mad and makes the mad Bling Bling!!
Why do you thinkl I trade with him!
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Old 02-07-2002, 04:39 PM   #16
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I suppose its time for me to Post the Absolute obvious, Why not just leave up a amateurpages link ? and make the 600 a month instead of selling it for 600 ? Amateurpages doesnt shave like you say.... I have been on them for a year now with no problems!

It just makes no logical sense!

Your basically saying

"buy my highly targetted and highly converting traffic"


If any of this is true, Convert it yourself then
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Old 02-07-2002, 07:29 PM   #17
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hahaha riiight, I have over 60,000 Bookmarkers alone on my one site, plus about 50k in trades to it everyday.... And thats only one out of my 4... I control about 500k unique a day and send about 2000 signups a month... I guess my traffic sucks I guess I could technically charge 5000 a month for a stupid little banner ad?
Bull Shit !!! I would like to see some of you logs or stats..???
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Old 02-07-2002, 07:43 PM   #18
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I suppose its time for me to Post the Absolute obvious, Why not just leave up a amateurpages link ? and make the 600 a month instead of selling it for 600 ? Amateurpages doesnt shave like you say.... I have been on them for a year now with no problems!

It just makes no logical sense!

Your basically saying

"buy my highly targetted and highly converting traffic"


If any of this is true, Convert it yourself then
Simple economic principle: There is value in certainty and cash paid in advance.
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Old 02-07-2002, 08:51 PM   #19
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Simple economic principle: There is value in certainty and cash paid in advance.
Yes, this is true.

Also I know for a fact that Lensman is making a profit on my traffic even at $.06 (otherwise he wouldn't pay $.06) -- so in reality my traffic is worth more than what he is paying me... I'm tired of cc processors fucking up -- tired of dialer lines going down -- surfers w/o cookies not being counted (over 30% of signups don't have cookies on), shaving, etc... Not to mention I don't get credit for type-ins or the exposure that my site gives to a program...

In reality I know my traffic is worth more than what these shitty paysites are paying me -- and I read tons of posts about people wanting to buy traffic... so my logical conslusion is that I should sell the traffic up front by wire -- instead of sitting around waiting IF a processor will pay the paysites -- sitting around wondering IF the paysite will pay on time -- sitting around wondering IF the check will get lost in the mail -- or sitting around wondering IF the check will bounce. Fuck that.

I suppose I need to sell this traffic per/click (maybe through a 3rd party's counter)... which makes more sense because then I have incentive to increase my traffic... Imagine this -- a system where paysites can bid on large volumes of traffic that they are buying... and this traffic could be evaluated (by a third part) on a regular basis... past performance/history could be recorded -- proxy %'s could be screened, etc... you could even do bulk buying and selling -- sortof like a labor union for traffic.

The days of webmasters trusting strangers with traffic and their money is near an end.
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