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|  08-09-2005, 07:03 PM | #1 | 
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				Open Apology To All Internext Hollywood 2005 Attendees, Friends and Co-Workers
			 Open Letter To All Internext Hollywood 2005 Attendees and Users of this Site I would like to apologize for having behaved like a drunken lout and embarrassment to my company, www.2much.net, on the first night and day of this year?s tradeshow. I had no excuse and certainly no reason for having done that, and while some might have been amused - others were probably not. To them I doubly apologize, and hope it?s not for having spoiled an otherwise good show. To friends I may have vexed ? thanks for keeping cool heads with me the rest of the show, and I certainly hope you all accept my apology. Truly I regret hurting anyone?s feelings or impression of their relationship with me. While I deserve what happened while lying in that beach chair drunkenly passed out, and more (thanks to those there for not taking it any further), 2much and the good people who were with us and company members dependent on a solid and successful enterprise like ours certainly don?t deserve the bad impression and negative attention an act of idiocy of this caliber can produce. To them and those to whom this was more than a stupid college prank but stupid unprofessional behaviour, I want to really ask forgiveness, on grounds that it won?t ever go that way again. For those who might be hurt professionally or personally I also ask the moderator/webmaster of this board to delete this thread, just so those whose fault it wasn?t won?t pay for something they had no control over. I?m already facing my own shame and difficulty with forgiveness. My actions were not a reflection of the quality of work or people who make up the 2much team, nor should it become a reflection of my friends and associates? qualities as both people and professionals. While I should probably be asked to leave 2much, I certainly don?t want that to happen and hope that the company that has formed around me can still accept me there. I don?t know how to end this except to make final apologies and ask that while I may have been dumb and insensate, I certainly am not that and hope everyone can overlook the incident and give me the opportunity to show it. Peace. MediaGuy 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:05 PM | #2 | 
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				 | whoa....... | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:06 PM | #3 | 
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				 | Greg, I really hope you have learned from this, and these  are'nt just empty words ..................   
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|  08-09-2005, 07:07 PM | #4 | 
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				 | very nice of you to release this thread | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:07 PM | #5 | 
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				 | listen don't be too hard on yourself - you're French, it's in your blood to make an ass of yourself. i'm sure everybody understands this.   bonne chance 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:08 PM | #6 | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:09 PM | #7 | 
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				 | Mediaguy ever consider attending AA meetings? DH 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:09 PM | #8 | 
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				 | I have pics of you sleeping on the wall outside the hotel .. you leaned back and forth on the wall just pulling your self back before you would fall .... i couldn't believe it after seeing you the same way in Canada ...I was like holly shit that's lipstick guy  ... I couldn't believe that security just left you there ... it's good to see your ok .. | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:11 PM | #9 | 
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				 | its a start.. 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:11 PM | #10 | 
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				 | Nothing wrong with losing your mind on booze every once in a while. It keeps me sane. I think you are taking it too hard. You just need to find more appropriate places to pass out.  | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:12 PM | #11 | 
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				 | The people video taping you was a bit much. | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:12 PM | #12 | |
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 I guess he has had practice............. 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:13 PM | #13 | 
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				 | wtf are you apologizing for? you got a little drunk and passes out...shit happens.... I think it's media and ther idiots who supported him puting ketchup and mustard on your head....that was fucked up. | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:13 PM | #14 | 
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				 | Atleast you had fun    
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|  08-09-2005, 07:14 PM | #15 | 
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				 | I saw the video.  Albeit funny, I really didn't see what the big deal was.  I've seen much worse.  Don't be too hard on yourself, but you may want to watch your drinking from now on to save yourself the embarrassment and employment. ;-) 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:20 PM | #16 | 
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				 | the video wasn't even funny.  stupid prank we've all seen before. shit happens, whatever. 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:22 PM | #17 | 
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				 | I would have been pretty pissed off if people put ketchup and mustard on me. On the other hand, kudos to you for standing up and apologizing to everyone in a professional manner. Business should come first   I certainly hope you keep your job. | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:26 PM | #18 | 
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				 | When I saw that video, if anything Greg, I was embarrassed FOR you and worried when I saw you and Mark talking that I wasn't gonna see you at another show. I hope that's not the case 'cause I know you have a good head on your shoulders, but the environment (yeah it's an excuse) can cause the best of us to lose touch as to why we're there. Had I been there, THIS time, I would have taken Cory's lead in Montreal and gotten you the hell out of there, but I didn't see it until today. Best of luck man and I hope to see you soon. | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:28 PM | #19 | 
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				 | dude you are the man for making this post. kudos to you. but those guys who put ketchup on you and filmed it are the ones who should be fired. | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:30 PM | #20 | |
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|  08-09-2005, 07:33 PM | #21 | |
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|  08-09-2005, 07:34 PM | #22 | 
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				 | That was very big of you to release a public apology like that. 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:35 PM | #23 | 
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				 | i think you are owed an apology as well by those people that violated you while you were in that condition. someone should have knocked their teeth out for that. unreal. | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:35 PM | #24 | 
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				 | well atleast you came forward, very nice of you | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:35 PM | #25 | 
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				 | I still wanna know how you kept your balance | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:40 PM | #26 | |
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|  08-09-2005, 07:43 PM | #27 | 
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				 | jeeze.. just remember next time.... bring the freedom fries 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:44 PM | #28 | 
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				 | i thought the video was funny, especially when someone said to get him some fries.   
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|  08-09-2005, 07:50 PM | #30 | 
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				 | Who gives a flying fuck? I'll walk around smoking blunts & inviting people to fuck the escorts in my hotel room. Like some programs not going to do business with you because your a sleazebag? This is porn baby....act like it. 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:51 PM | #31 | 
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				 | Were you the guy who was passed out at the AmateurBash suite the last night?  Forest of drinking cups, some lipstick, etc...? 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:53 PM | #32 | |
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|  08-09-2005, 07:53 PM | #33 | 
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				 | Hey shit happens and your apology was sincere so I'm sure everyone will forget about it. just learn to pace yourself at the shows. Every year I see the newbie?s get wasted the first night. I did it years ago and I'm sure everyone else has. good luck | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:54 PM | #34 | |
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|  08-09-2005, 07:57 PM | #35 | 
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				 |   shit happens!!! | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:57 PM | #36 | 
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				 | Just for the record I ended up in the E.R. & my stomach pumped at Nina & Ricks NYC party a few years ago....i casually slipped out the door & no one even saw me. I took 2 bottles of grey goose to the face & half a bottle of bombay gin (thanks isprime!) When you get to the point you can't stand up anymore, get to the hospital or get back in your fucking room. Learn from it & be a man....& whoever punked you out & put lipstick on ya.....find them & fuck em up. Otherwise you'll never get any respect in this biz. | 
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|  08-09-2005, 07:58 PM | #37 | |
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   Also I just took a look a 2much.net for the first time. so not all is lost and it looks great | |
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|  08-09-2005, 08:00 PM | #38 | 
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				 | Personally, if I were your boss you'd be OUT. And I certainly wouldn't let you post a public apology to draw attention for those who initially didn't even know about it. That's just me though.  I don't know you at all. Never met you. But I can tell you one thing. The only impressions that I have of you or your company is visions of lipstick all over your head and now picturing you passed out on the beach or whatever. If I needed to contact someone from your company to do something serious, you're the last one I would go to. I'm seriously not trying to be mean. Just giving you an example of how others might feel too having not even met you. The lipstick thing was kinda humorous but doing this a SECOND time? I dunno, I have been drunk off my ass but I can't even imagine being so sloshed that you're falling down or passing out or whatever. You should try to give yourself some personal rules or something for the conventions. Like don't drink till a certain time, maybe after dinner at least. And a time to stop. Or try to keep it to a drink an hour or something. Maybe beer only if it's the liquor that does this to you. Because that is completely losing control. If you can't handle your alcohol, don't drink. Do you do that at home when you go out to the bar or whatever? I'm curious. Some peoples bodies just can't handle it. | 
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|  08-09-2005, 08:00 PM | #39 | 
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				 | In order to get respect he needs to find the lipstick bandits and "fuck them up"? Ahaha. Are we mafia members now? Why don't we just take out Cory's knees while we're at it for taping the whole fiasco? 
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|  08-09-2005, 08:03 PM | #40 | 
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				 | And while I'm on a rant, WHY didn't someone get his ass out of there? I believe Cory and a few others helped you out in this dept last time. I know in Cancun a buddy of mine started to lose control and possibly his job and I got his ass in my room asap and stayed with him till he was better.  We all gotta watch out for each other a little better. I would hope someone would to that for me. | 
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|  08-09-2005, 08:05 PM | #41 | |
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 RRRED you've always been cool in my book....ever since you worked at weg & i got mad respect for you, but coming out & basically saying this dude should be fired for not being able to hold his liquir is an insult. Not cool babe. And i agree, people do need to set limits, but some people are alchoholics & don't know what a limit is, it doesn't mean they should be shunned by the industry. It wasn't exactly a IBM convention.  | |
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|  08-09-2005, 08:08 PM | #42 | |
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|  08-09-2005, 08:09 PM | #43 | 
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				 | first off, you got drunk, passed out and people fucked with you...jesus, are we not there to have fun? maybe he doesn't get a chance to part a lot, and conventions are a time to let loose...who cares, it looked like fun from his perspective and from those fucking with him, i could easily be in either shoes second, i have never heard of 2much until now, and would have never heard it unless i watched that video and saw it on your shirt, and also saw it in your post here...and I don't think I am the only one...while this is bad press, it still is press, and I can almost guarantee there were more than a couple sign ups to 2much in the past day from this post and video alone third, whoever said he needs to be fire for getting drunk and passing out should be fired from whatever they are doing, cause they are NO FUN! LOL | 
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|  08-09-2005, 08:13 PM | #44 | |
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 I don't think he intentionally meant to make an ass out of himself or his company. But you gotta buck up and figure out how to do something different next time because this is obviously a repeated thing. Once someone is at that point where they don't even know where they are or what their name is, though, someone needed to step up and help the guy out. I mean I wasn't there so I don't know what happened but WTF... Like I said if that happened to me, I sure hope someone would get me the fuck outta there. | |
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|  08-09-2005, 08:18 PM | #45 | |
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|  08-09-2005, 08:18 PM | #46 | |
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|  08-09-2005, 08:21 PM | #47 | |
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 I'll tell ya one thing, if someone ever dumped ketchup on my head drunk & passed out, i'd have 3 crew members tossing the fuckers in the ocean. And i'd do the same for them. | |
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|  08-09-2005, 08:25 PM | #48 | |
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|  08-09-2005, 08:25 PM | #49 | |
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 He told us this was his way of marketing. I put it in HD. He didn't want it up, all he had to do was ask. 
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|  08-09-2005, 08:27 PM | #50 | 
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				 | media guy, we met before you zoned out, you seemed cool tho couldve been worse, could have been talking shit and starting fights, at least you got drunk and minded your own business and passed out (from what i seen) 
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