WebCamCash - Is your plane delayed?

[Murderous]

Cause your contest sure is. See Sig.

[pussyluver]

A little harsh to say "not paid" so quick. It's only the 8th....

[Dalai lama]

Insulting the company who bought your sig, in your sig.

You are saying not paid, it's only 3 days later.

[boner 2.0]

Originally Posted by pussyluver

A little harsh to say "not paid" so quick. It's only the 8th....

Dwreck/webcamcash will pay, don't worry...

Originally Posted by Dalai lama

Insulting the company who bought your sig, in your sig.

You are saying not paid, it's only 3 days later.

[pussyluver]

Originally Posted by Dalai lama

Insulting the company who bought your sig, in your sig.

You are saying not paid, it's only 3 days later.

If you think they are so bad, why fly them in your sig?

Maybe ya missed a thread + Internext obviously took some attention - lets cut some slack here. I suspect this is an opportunity to win some cash from a great organization.

[Murderous]

Originally Posted by boner 2.0

Dwreck/webcamcash will pay, don't worry...

I spoke with him when I first signed up to the program, I love the program, have yet to make a conversion, but it hasn't been long I am sure it will come soon. Great promo tools, great payouts etc.

I have a certain pet peave... contests that are badly coordinated and this is rediculous. I emailed hazel several times, I tried to ICQ Dwreck and I even left posts in their contest threads... nobody says anything... there has been several days in the DAILY contest that the winner was not posted here.

I understand that the contest is in other boards as well, but the winner should be announced in all boards or on the sigcount page or something.

I have no doubts that the money will be there, but I am kinda torn with the fact they started this contest before going to internext. Either wait until after the event, or make sure someone on staff can tend to the sponsors pushing the sigs.I have done well with impressions and feel a bit sour when my emails go unanswered etc.

Besides... I like my sig.

[pussyluver]

Murderous,

If you like the sig and the program, why the negative comments. That doesn't help them or you or me for that matter. Suggest you pull the negative comments. If it were me, I'd tell ya to fuck off. You either support a sponsor or you don't. How many signs are you gonna get with those comments under the banner? Seems stupid to me.

In the now famous words for Burger Boy:

Idiot!


PL

[taibo]

you have nothing to worry about getting your money from webcamcash.

[Kevsh]

The whole crew was down at Internext and I believe they are scheduled to come back today. They are all good people and among the nicest I've met in this biz. I have no doubt you and anyone else owed will be paid asap.

But to throw dirt on them in your sig AND start a thread about is a bit much, no?

[Dalai lama]

Originally Posted by pussyluver

If you think they are so bad, why fly them in your sig?

Maybe ya missed a thread + Internext obviously took some attention - lets cut some slack here. I suspect this is an opportunity to win some cash from a great organization.

I'm not flying webcamcash in my sig, never did.

[Murderous]

I ain't pullin shit until they address the issue. Fuck that shit. I don't agree with the activity. Aside from that, there really isn't anything negative in there. The "not paid???" is a question, not a statement. and the "never was announced" never was announced. So that is not negative. If they wanna disqualify me, so be it... at least you will all know how the shit went down.

[pussyluver]

This calls for a few observations.

1) Spread4U has been around awhile and they have guidelines on how to interact with surfers. I have never seen a model sleeping, eating or reading on cam as I have seen in other programs.

2) I have spent time in chat rooms and found the models polite and acting correctly even though there were assholes and insulting comments made at them.

3) Spread4U now with the new name has NEVER missed a check even though I'm not the biggest affiliate by far. Even sent a $32 check for one month. A check got lost in the mail. Guess what, they replaced it. Calls or emails have always been returned. Can't say that about all my sponsors.

4) I have referred a model to them and from what I hear, Spread4u won out when compared to other programs from the model's perspective.

Conclusion is that Spread4u has a better model base.

Getting webcam conversions can be an effort. There is a ton of competition that is for sure. What you will find is that once a relationship is struck with a model, a surfer will return time and time again. Having the thumb links on your page brings surfers back too! Sometimes they will visit several times before they pull out that credit card. Spread4u shows well because of the model base is good. Even though they may be smaller than other programs, they can be good for your site.

Wanna join as an affiliate, please click the text link in my sig. That way I'd get credit for the sale.

[sherie]

Dude, chill out! They are on their way home as we speak. Internext is generally busy for most people so cut them some slack....

[Murderous]

Originally Posted by pussyluver

This calls for a few observations.

1) Spread4U has been around awhile and they have guidelines on how to interact with surfers. I have never seen a model sleeping, eating or reading on cam as I have seen in other programs.

2) I have spent time in chat rooms and found the models polite and acting correctly even though there were assholes and insulting comments made at them.

3) Spread4U now with the new name has NEVER missed a check even though I'm not the biggest affiliate by far. Even sent a $32 check for one month. A check got lost in the mail. Guess what, they replaced it. Calls or emails have always been returned. Can't say that about all my sponsors.

4) I have referred a model to them and from what I hear, Spread4u won out when compared to other programs from the model's perspective.

Conclusion is that Spread4u has a better model base.

Getting webcam conversions can be an effort. There is a ton of competition that is for sure. What you will find is that once a relationship is struck with a model, a surfer will return time and time again. Having the thumb links on your page brings surfers back too! Sometimes they will visit several times before they pull out that credit card. Spread4u shows well because of the model base is good. Even though they may be smaller than other programs, they can be good for your site.

Wanna join as an affiliate, please click the text link in my sig. That way I'd get credit for the sale.

Like I said, I like them as well. And this isn't about the money, I do believe I will recieve payment. Just to make this clear, this is about the DAILY contest being 5 days and only 2 winners announced. This is about when being faced with the issues the comments go completely ignored.. I started off great, then I got harsh (thinking that might get their attention) then I even apologized. Nothing. So I changed my sig up a bit... no response. I decided to make a thread so they can see it.

So...

BUMP!

[Murderous]

Originally Posted by sherie

Dude, chill out! They are on their way home as we speak. Internext is generally busy for most people so cut them some slack....

If you read above, they should not have started a public contest if they didn't have time to stick with it.

I think it is bullshit to hold a contest and get people excited and PROMOTE YOUR SHIT... and then ignore it.

bottom line.

NO EXCUSE.

Regardless.

[taibo]

lol at this thread..

bump in hopes one of the reps from wcc will see this thread

[Murderous]

Originally Posted by taibo

lol at this thread..

bump in hopes one of the reps from wcc will see this thread

yes, thank you... it would be great for them to see it, since it was started for them and not a single one of you guys.

[Kevsh]

Murderous, you're an ass.

(Disclaimer: This post is intended for Murderous to see and no one else. So I posted it in on a public message board where hundreds of webmasters would see it, but again it is not intended for ANY OF YOU to see, just Murderous).

Now how much sense does that make?

(Not to mention he sig thing, which is just beyond the call of good taste.)

[Murderous]

Originally Posted by Murderous

Like I said, I like them as well. And this isn't about the money, I do believe I will recieve payment. Just to make this clear, this is about the DAILY contest being 5 days and only 2 winners announced. This is about when being faced with the issues the comments go completely ignored.. I started off great, then I got harsh (thinking that might get their attention) then I even apologized. Nothing. So I changed my sig up a bit... no response. I decided to make a thread so they can see it.

So...

BUMP!

Obviously you are the ass... wtf?

[pussyluver]

Originally Posted by Kevsh

Murderous, you're an ass.

(Disclaimer: This post is intended for Murderous to see and no one else. So I posted it in on a public message board where hundreds of webmasters would see it, but again it is not intended for ANY OF YOU to see, just Murderous).

Now how much sense does that make?

(Not to mention he sig thing, which is just beyond the call of good taste.)

Gunner or someone from WebCamCash will respond in time. Enough has been said here and in other threads that any negaitve message has been over come. That's provided that the comments in his sig come down. If it were me, I'd turn his link off.

Your right, poor taste.

[Murderous]

So you mean to tell me that NONE of the other competitors are wondering why no winners were announced for them days? I mean if you say you are going to do something, then do it and don't ignore issues regarding it... several ICQ's POSTS and EMAILS went ignored BEFORE any of this. That my friend is "bad taste" and I still do not see anything offensive in my sig. And I will be changing "Aug. 8th - To be announced" to "Aug. 8th - Never was announced" if there is no response by midnight.

[El Duderino]

Are you doing this to get more sig views?

[wdsguy]

you should be banned from their contest.

[tungsten]

ever heard of this thing called internext?

[Murderous]

Originally Posted by tungsten

ever heard of this thing called internext?

Ever heard of this thing called reading? That is basically what this is all about.

[pussyluver]

Originally Posted by Murderous

Ever heard of this thing called reading? That is basically what this is all about.

Every hear about common sense?

Strange thing, ya can't fix stupid.

My only reason for bumping the thread is to give the sponsor a chance to respond before it falls off to page three or four.

[poisson]

lol, i had a good laught, good night all, i'm not getting into this.

[Murderous]

Night Poisson

wdsguy.. I have not broken neither the board rules nor the contest rules.
As follows...

Please follow the rules:

1. Contest runs from August 3, 2005 to August 31, 2005.

2. There is no limit to how many times you can win.

3. A new thread will be started on GFY, Web Overdrive and YNOT Masters every weekday to announce the winner. If you won you must post to that thread within 24 hours and answer a simple skill-testing question to claim your prize.

4. You must use the 624x80 banner on GFY and Web Overdrive or your posts will not count.

5. The banner does not have to be in your sig. It can be anywhere in your post.

6. If you use the banner, you must hotlink it, and link it to http://www.webcamcash.com.

7. NO OFF-TOPIC POSTS (it's more fun when you participate!)

8. NO DOUBLE POSTING.

9.Abuse of board rules will result in disqualification.

Webcamcash of course broke rule #3 (possibly #1 if there was no winners the 3rd and the 4th)


I do not see where I am wrong... all I want is some explanations as to why they think it is ok to conduct a contest as such. It is SUPPOSED to be fun, but we are advertising the shit out of them and we don't even get rewarded with the DAILY results which is what the anticipation build up is for.

Not to mention all the failed attempts of contact whether for payment or for answers.

[Kevsh]

It's obvious, sir, that you are clueless

You put their banner in your sig for one reason only: To win one (or more) of their cash prizes.

You don't get yours asap and, like anyone would do, inquire. When you don't hear back in good enough time you then started acting like a whining ten year-old.

You keep their banner in your sig but also slag them with the non-payment text below it. You post in a "webcam sponsor" thread and note that even though they haven't paid you, you still like them.

You then start a thread crying about the whole thing and making yourself look like an ass. All over, what, a $100?

Dude, is business that slow for you? Are you so incompetent in this biz that $100 is going to make any kind of difference in your monthly income? Oh, I see, it's the "principle" right?

Okay, here's some principle for you: Don't publicly fuck over the people you are trying to win money off of in a contest. This is their livelihood and you are doing your best to give them a bad rap in a public way, all the while defending your actions with nonsense.

Grow up, be a man, be professional and remove that shit in your sig. They will get back to you and you will be paid. And then I suggest you find another line of work, apparently this biz isn't right for you.

So, a gift (and subliminal hint to you):

[siccmade]

Originally Posted by tungsten

ever heard of this thing called internext?

Not trying to say Murderous is going about this 100% the right way, but...

I am sure there are webmasters who have never been to internext and never plan to go. Hell, many of them might not even know it's internext time. To them, it's business as usual.

So... when a sponsor takes a couple days "off", it may appear as bullshitting. But he's right, why would you have a daily contest & not be around to announce the winners until it's over?

btw I don't know murderous, the sponsor, or a damn thing about the contest so don't listen to me ;)

[pussyluver]

Originally Posted by Kevsh

It's obvious, sir, that you are clueless

You put their banner in your sig for one reason only: To win one (or more) of their cash prizes.

You don't get yours asap and, like anyone would do, inquire. When you don't hear back in good enough time you then started acting like a whining ten year-old.

You keep their banner in your sig but also slag them with the non-payment text below it. You post in a "webcam sponsor" thread and note that even though they haven't paid you, you still like them.

You then start a thread crying about the whole thing and making yourself look like an ass. All over, what, a $100?

Dude, is business that slow for you? Are you so incompetent in this biz that $100 is going to make any kind of difference in your monthly income? Oh, I see, it's the "principle" right?

Okay, here's some principle for you: Don't publicly fuck over the people you are trying to win money off of in a contest. This is their livelihood and you are doing your best to give them a bad rap in a public way, all the while defending your actions with nonsense.

Grow up, be a man, be professional and remove that shit in your sig. They will get back to you and you will be paid. And then I suggest you find another line of work, apparently this biz isn't right for you.

So, a gift (and subliminal hint to you):

ditto!!! Well put. Best to change your nick now. You'll never be in any of my affiliate programs!

[FreeHugeMovies]

A sig whore ranting at the company who pays for it. LOL Only on GFY

[Murderous]

Originally Posted by Kevsh

It's obvious, sir, that you are clueless

You put their banner in your sig for one reason only: To win one (or more) of their cash prizes.

You don't get yours asap and, like anyone would do, inquire. When you don't hear back in good enough time you then started acting like a whining ten year-old.

You keep their banner in your sig but also slag them with the non-payment text below it. You post in a "webcam sponsor" thread and note that even though they haven't paid you, you still like them.

You then start a thread crying about the whole thing and making yourself look like an ass. All over, what, a $100?

Dude, is business that slow for you? Are you so incompetent in this biz that $100 is going to make any kind of difference in your monthly income? Oh, I see, it's the "principle" right?

Okay, here's some principle for you: Don't publicly fuck over the people you are trying to win money off of in a contest. This is their livelihood and you are doing your best to give them a bad rap in a public way, all the while defending your actions with nonsense.

Grow up, be a man, be professional and remove that shit in your sig. They will get back to you and you will be paid. And then I suggest you find another line of work, apparently this biz isn't right for you.

So, a gift (and subliminal hint to you):

I didn't even start saying ANYTHING about them until others started saying shit, I felt the need to explain as to not have them feeling that I am trying to piss anyone off, I am simply upset cause I have tried everything to get at someone they were online several times never tried to address the issue I had with it.

btw I didn't even read your whole post because I posted earlier that it is NOT about the fucking money. Yes I do need cash, I am not broke, but that is NOT what this is about... now go back and read the rest of it.

[Murderous]

Originally Posted by siccmade

Not trying to say Murderous is going about this 100% the right way, but...

I am sure there are webmasters who have never been to internext and never plan to go. Hell, many of them might not even know it's internext time. To them, it's business as usual.

So... when a sponsor takes a couple days "off", it may appear as bullshitting. But he's right, why would you have a daily contest & not be around to announce the winners until it's over?

btw I don't know murderous, the sponsor, or a damn thing about the contest so don't listen to me ;)

exactly... at least you know what I am ranting about.

Don't start a contest advertised as daily, get everyone chearing and clapping because you are so fucking great, get everyone posting the tips of their fingers off, then turn your backs on the contest, don'tannounce winners on time, don't answer emails and icq's and posts reguarding the contest... WHEN YOU ARE ONLINE AND POST RIGHT PAST THEM?

And noone else understands what the fuck my problem is.

I left the banner in the sig, because I still want to participate in the contest, I did not get them 110k of imprssions for nothing... and only 10k or less occured during this fiasco... they are welcome to pull them 10k if they wish...

also... isn't it odd that this is yet another day from which they did not announce a winner... 2 days no winners, 2 days with winners, 2 days with no winners.

I think it may be them that is a bit hard up for cash... missing days in a DAILY contest.

Hoping we will not notice or let it ride. Well, I am a man of my word and I expect the same, I do not care if you have 1 tgp gallery or 6 sponsor programs in your portfolio... I treat you the same as anyone. What is the problem?

[Murderous]

Bump for GUNNER cause I see him around...dude, read this. /\

[GUNNER]

ummm... no email from you.. no ICQ mgs... no phone call

thanks for going to the board first.

[Murderous]

Originally Posted by GUNNER

ummm... no email from you.. no ICQ mgs... no phone call

thanks for going to the board first.

I emailed Hazel "3" times, I ICQ'd Dwreck "3" times, and I have made MULTIPLE posts in the contest threads that went OVERLOOKED and I bumped this thread this morning while you were online, again OVERLOOKED.

Besides, I already spoke with Dwreck moments ago...
This is what was said.

part 1


part 2


part 3


And funny... nothing has changed... the winners for the missed days still not posted... no return emails from hazel... payment still not recieved.

Explain.

PS - Thanx for reading this whole thread... you must have missed that part... just like all the other posts.

[Thurbs]

wow lol ... imagine if creditcard companies and others got on you the day after. i gotta stick up for a solid crew, everyone was at Internext, give them a break. 5 days of intensive activity to come back to the office is tough for everyone.

[Murderous]

Originally Posted by SilverCash Thurbs

wow lol ... imagine if creditcard companies and others got on you the day after. i gotta stick up for a solid crew, everyone was at Internext, give them a break. 5 days of intensive activity to come back to the office is tough for everyone.

This is understandable as I have said above. They are taking care of the situation, they are a great crew... this was about running a promo during "intense activity" which IMO should not have happened... at least without backup. I told Dwreck I would refrain from posting, so this is my last.

And again... thank YOU for not reading the stuff above as well.. seems to be a trend.

Exit... stage... left.

And again... this wasn't about the payment, this was about DAILY contest and no DAILY winners.

[pussyluver]

Idea!

1) Let's let this thread die off page one.

2) Muderous, remove the negative crap in your sig

3) WebCamCash start a new thread on a positive note.

[Murderous]

Originally Posted by pussyluver

Idea!

1) Let's let this thread die off page one.

2) Muderous, remove the negative crap in your sig

3) WebCamCash start a new thread on a positive note.

Agreed.

Thanx.

[Xenophage]

Webcam Cash Crew are good people, they will pay and have just been away at the show like a lot of other people this week.

[Dwreck]

Hello Merderous,

I said in my icq that I am aware of your concern and that I am playing catch up and I will get to your thread. Well i have been I got home at 12 am and I stared replying to emails at 8 am and I finllay got to yoru thread. Sorry for the delay.

I will take full and 100% fault for not annocung winners at the start of the contest for that was an slight oversight on my part that posting and annocing winners during days of travel and while at the biggest trade show of the year. I thought it could be done.

Now that im back at home and settled in all the daily winners will be annouced in timely fashion now that im back in full force. The CEO and COO are still away on biz and when they get back we will think of some kinda of compesation for the days missed.

Again, with my very busy scehdule during Internext i admit i missed a few days and for that I accept complete resposibilty. Next time I wont run a contest during a trade show. Lesson learnt.

ALl monies will be sent out at the end of the month.

Thanks for your positive support and concern.

Today's daily winner is Sickkittens let's keep this postive!

[Murderous]

Thanx Dwreck.

I am sorry for taking it this far and I changed my Sig to reflect our agreement.

[fuzzypeach]

Originally Posted by Murderous

also... isn't it odd that this is yet another day from which they did not announce a winner... 2 days no winners, 2 days with winners, 2 days with no winners.

I think it may be them that is a bit hard up for cash... missing days in a DAILY contest.

Then you post PRIVATE icq logs?

Wow - just wow

[Purple Haze]

Forgive me but I dragged my entire crew to Internext and we were unable to get back to you quickly. Plus we missed a prize on Monday because we were all travelling so we will make up for it with a double-prize day later this week.

Impression count has been reset so start posting again!

B