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Clay · 02-07-2002, 07:55 AM

http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/starbuck.htm

"My family owns an ambulance service in Brooklyn NY. Midwood Ambulance if anyone knows it. Anyway, my uncles were at "Ground Zero" during the attack to help the victims. They donated their time to help with this crisis as many New Yorkers did. A great deal of people were in shock from the devastation.

As many of you know, shock victims are supposed to drink a lot of water. My uncle went to the Starbucks down the street to get bottles of water for the victims he was treating. Can you believe they actually charged him for it!! He paid the $130 for 3 cases of bottled water out of his own pocket. Now, I would think that in a crisis such as this, vendors in the area would be more than happy to lend a little help by donating water. Well, not Starbucks! As if this country hasn't given them enough money! Anyway, the point of this story wasn't to glorify my uncle's actions but to suggest a boycott on Starbucks.

Now, I love Frappaccinos as much as anyone, but any company that would try to make a profit off of a crisis like this doesn't deserve the American public's hard earned money. Please forward this e-mail to any one you know and encourage them to do the same.
Thank you!"

starbucks

Crappachino

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 08:01 AM

Can anyone spell "U R B A N L E G E N D"?

Since we're on this topic, how bout the infamous, though nonexistent, Tommy Hilfiger appearance on the Oprah show where he declared that he would not want to sell his clothes to black people? Or how about the email report floating around the Net last year about KFC changing its name from Kentucky Fried Chicken because they are no longer using REAL chickens?

Lev · 02-07-2002, 08:02 AM

Thats sucks. I'll never buy anything from there. And how about those fake charity groups that collected donations from people for the September 11 events and put it in thier own pocket.

12clicks · 02-07-2002, 08:04 AM

I'm one of Starbucks' best customers and will remain so.

Mr Docter · 02-07-2002, 08:05 AM

Um.. How do you Fake a piece of chicken?? Bone, Meat, Skin.. You cant grow that on a tree..

Why did he Choose Starbucks of all places??

Forest · 02-07-2002, 08:05 AM

Friends DONT let Friends go to Starbucks

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 08:07 AM

Perhaps a better reason to NOT buy from Starbucks is because the company supports repressive Third World regimes by sourcing its coffee from those countries?

Clay · 02-07-2002, 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
I'm one of Starbucks' best customers and will remain so.

12clicks · 02-07-2002, 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by linkyd
Perhaps a better reason to NOT buy from Starbucks is because the company supports repressive Third World regimes by sourcing its coffee from those countries?

wow, is this a joke or are there really people who think like this?

Mr Docter · 02-07-2002, 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
I'm one of Starbucks' best customers and will remain so.

Im not much of a coffee drinker but I am from the Seattle Area where Starbucks origanated and I am always for Local buisness', so if anyone is mad at what they did just dont buy there bottled water. It makes sence to me.

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 08:11 AM

Dude, I went to Cal Berkeley for undergrad... believe me, there are people who really think like this

For fucks sake, Berkeley is a Nuclear Free Zone... Like those multiple MIRV warheads have a GPS exclusion for zip codes

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Originally posted by 12clicks

wow, is this a joke or are there really people who think like this?

12clicks · 02-07-2002, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by linkyd
Dude, I went to Cal Berkeley for undergrad... believe me, there are people who really think like this For fucks sake, Berkeley is a Nuclear Free Zone... Like those multiple MIRV warheads have a GPS exclusion for zip codes

Yikes! you're the real McCoy!

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 08:16 AM

Actually, I don't buy that whole liberal BS... I'm a Libertarian. Less taxes, Less Laws, More freedom, more profit. :D

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Originally posted by 12clicks

Yikes! you're the real McCoy!

Mr Docter · 02-07-2002, 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by linkyd
Dude, I went to Cal Berkeley for undergrad... believe me, there are people who really think like this For fucks sake, Berkeley is a Nuclear Free Zone... Like those multiple MIRV warheads have a GPS exclusion for zip codes

It might be your "Cal Berkely" education that might be boggling me but dude, I dident understand one word you said.

I dident know that berkely foke used the word "dude"... wow, at least I learned somthing from your rambles..

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 08:22 AM

I'm glad you got something.

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Originally posted by Mr Docter

It might be your "Cal Berkely" education that might be boggling me but dude, I dident understand one word you said.

I dident know that berkely foke used the word "dude"... wow, at least I learned somthing from your rambles..

jimmyf · 02-07-2002, 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

wow, is this a joke or are there really people who think like this?

Yip 10's of 1,000's if not in the millions.
Dip shit's are dumb as a rock.

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 08:48 AM

You just described the Democratic Party. lol

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Originally posted by jimmyf

Yip 10's of 1,000's if not in the millions.
Dip shit's are dumb as a rock.

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 08:53 AM

Dude, its an urban legend passed along by email last year. Supposedly the "chickens" were "cloned"
Here's a link:
http://www.unh.edu/BoilerPlate/kfc.html

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Originally posted by Mr Docter
Um.. How do you Fake a piece of chicken?? Bone, Meat, Skin.. You cant grow that on a tree..

Why did he Choose Starbucks of all places??

railz · 02-07-2002, 09:00 AM

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Originally posted by linkyd
Can anyone spell "U R B A N L E G E N D"?

http://www.nando.net/special_reports...-1210702c.html

Can anyone spell "R E S E A R C H"?

Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction.

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 09:04 AM

My bad, you're right this is the real deal. It just sounded too much like an urban legend at first.

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Originally posted by railz

http://www.nando.net/special_reports...-1210702c.html

Can anyone spell "R E S E A R C H"?

Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction.

Mr Docter · 02-07-2002, 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by linkyd
Dude, its an urban legend passed along by email last year. Supposedly the "chickens" were "cloned"
Here's a link:
http://www.unh.edu/BoilerPlate/kfc.html

Thats a whole diffrent thing. Does a cloned chicken not have a sole? Just because they might have be contribed in a testube and incubation chamber in a lab somewhere dosent make them fake.

Whould you consider yourself not alive if you were a clone??

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by Mr Docter

Thats a whole diffrent thing. Does a cloned chicken not have a sole? Just because they might have be contribed in a testube and incubation chamber in a lab somewhere dosent make them fake.

Whould you consider yourself not alive if you were a clone??

jimmyf · 02-07-2002, 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by linkyd
You just described the Democratic Party. lol

Yip am very aware of that.

Hate to admit it but I was one for years.
Took me until I was about 39 years old to
see the light. So I guess that means I was dumber than rock also.

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 09:10 AM

I feel you dude, I was a diehard liberal democrat in college--you know, welfare for everyone, no nukes, that kind of stuff. As I got older and had to start paying taxes, worrying about my neighborhood, etc I became more conservative.......quickly

There's no shame nor guilt in wanting a safer neighborhood, higher property values, in keeping more of the money you worked so hard to earn...

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Originally posted by jimmyf

Yip am very aware of that.

Hate to admit it but I was one for years.
Took me until I was about 39 years old to
see the light. So I guess that means I was dumber than rock also.

12clicks · 02-07-2002, 09:23 AM

lets end this bullshit. I doubt that the ambulance crew "donated" their time.
If they were there for the initial response (the only time water would be needed) you can bet they were on the job and you can bet the ambulance company billed the city or the hospitals for their time.
While what a 6 dollar an hour employee did might not have been the smartest thing, pretending that everyone else involved was pure as driven snow is naive.

FATPad · 02-07-2002, 09:27 AM

From reading that article on Nando, it sure doesn't sound like the President of Starbucks condoned what happened. I seriously doubt Starbucks' company policy is to charge rescue workers for water in emergency situations.

Amputate Your Head · 02-07-2002, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
I'm one of Starbucks' best customers and will remain so.

mmmmm...... StarBucks..... DAMN good coffee!

pimplink · 02-07-2002, 10:09 AM

Going with that logic, then the firemen/police people that died in the Twin Towers were not heroes who sacrificed themselves... just people doing their jobs who got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. According to 12clicks' logic, this is similar to congratulating your busboy if he cleans your table... he's just doing his job. If given the choice, most, if not all people, would have gotten the hell out of there and not get killed?

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Originally posted by 12clicks
lets end this bullshit. I doubt that the ambulance crew "donated" their time.
If they were there for the initial response (the only time water would be needed) you can bet they were on the job and you can bet the ambulance company billed the city or the hospitals for their time.
While what a 6 dollar an hour employee did might not have been the smartest thing, pretending that everyone else involved was pure as driven snow is naive.

rollin2 · 02-07-2002, 10:47 AM

anybody who risks their life for another person is a hero.

i don't think anyone could disagree with me.

SykkBoy · 02-07-2002, 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by Clay

but any company that would try to make a profit off of a crisis like this doesn't deserve the American public's hard earned money.

Does that include the people selling little flag pendants and "patriotic" tshirts and those collectors' coins? I'm sure they are including a nice little profit in there for themselves. What about the Osama Bin Laden toilet paper and tshirts? Aren't those companies essentially profiting from the tragedy?

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by rollin2
anybody who risks their life for another person is a hero.

i don't think anyone could disagree with me.

Hmmmm... that seems to analyze situations purely based on outcomes and appearances. What if the person who saves your life does not care about you and just wants to get paid cuz its his job?

Maybe heroism should be defined as a combination of both action and intent?

Amputate Your Head · 02-07-2002, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by pimplink
Going with that logic, then the firemen/police people that died in the Twin Towers were not heroes who sacrificed themselves... just people doing their jobs who got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. According to 12clicks' logic, this is similar to congratulating your busboy if he cleans your table... he's just doing his job. If given the choice, most, if not all people, would have gotten the hell out of there and not get killed?

Yes, exactly right. Firstly, I'm pretty sure they didn't go in there to "sacrifice themselves". They went in to help out by doing their jobs. So let's not get all sacrificial an shit. And yes, I'm pretty sure if most of them could've actually KNOWN they were gonna die, they probly would've gotten the fuck out of there.

Nedder · 02-07-2002, 10:59 AM

I personally support oppressive 3rd World Regimes, I'm trying to get them to build sites for me.

And you can make a nice chicken out of soybeans.

Nz

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 11:08 AM

ROFL Yeah those Chinese PHP programmers rule!

There's no "incentive plan" more effective than having an AK47 pointed at your back

Actually, re the chicken remark, you are right... its called TVP -- texture vegetable protein.

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Originally posted by Nedder
I personally support oppressive 3rd World Regimes, I'm trying to get them to build sites for me.

And you can make a nice chicken out of soybeans.

Nz

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 11:11 AM

So AMP, based on the logic/argumentation so far, would you agree with the following statement?
"Mourning the firefighters/policemen that died at the Twin Towers on 9/11 with a memorial would make just as much sense as building a memorial to a Domino's Pizza Driver who got killed by a bus on his way to deliver a pizza"

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

Yes, exactly right. Firstly, I'm pretty sure they didn't go in there to "sacrifice themselves". They went in to help out by doing their jobs. So let's not get all sacrificial an shit. And yes, I'm pretty sure if most of them could've actually KNOWN they were gonna die, they probly would've gotten the fuck out of there.

Amputate Your Head · 02-07-2002, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by linkyd
So AMP, based on the logic/argumentation so far, would you agree with the following statement?
"Mourning the firefighters/policemen that died at the Twin Towers on 9/11 with a memorial would make just as much sense as building a memorial to a Domino's Pizza Driver who got killed by a bus on his way to deliver a pizza"

I didn't say that... you did.

But I would imagine the Dominos Pizza boy would probly get a memorial as well. People love them memorials.

jollyperv · 02-07-2002, 11:22 AM

I don't believe it, but fuck starbuck's anyway. Anybody see that simpsons episode where every store in the mall turned into a starbuck's? Pretty funny shit.

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

I didn't say that... you did.

But I would imagine the Dominos Pizza boy would probly get a memorial as well. People love them memorials.

I know I did say it, I was just asking if you'd agree with it.

My whole point is 1) Heroism is a combination of intent and action [same analysis for crimes--a crime is a combination of 2 elements, mens rea [intent] and action] 2) the American media's rush to create "heroes" out of a tragedy really distorts the meaning of heroism.

Amputate Your Head · 02-07-2002, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by linkyd
the American media's rush to create "heroes" out of a tragedy really distorts the meaning of heroism.

This statement I will agree with.

UnseenWorld · 02-07-2002, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by linkyd
Perhaps a better reason to NOT buy from Starbucks is because the company supports repressive Third World regimes by sourcing its coffee from those countries?

Using that kind of logic, don't use anything made of plastic or with plastic in it, because you know the petroleum plastics are generally made from comes from undemocratic countries which oppress women.

I can't imagine how the lives of the people in those countries will become magically better by starving them through a boycott.

12clicks · 02-07-2002, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by pimplink
Going with that logic, then the firemen/police people that died in the Twin Towers were not heroes who sacrificed themselves... just people doing their jobs who got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. According to 12clicks' logic, this is similar to congratulating your busboy if he cleans your table... he's just doing his job. If given the choice, most, if not all people, would have gotten the hell out of there and not get killed?

Are you compairing a couple of private ambulance drivers handing out bottles of water to the firemen/police heros who died that day? It sure sounds like it.

UnseenWorld · 02-07-2002, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by Clay
http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/starbuck.htm

Now, I love Frappaccinos as much as anyone, but any company that would try to make a profit off of a crisis like this doesn't deserve the American public's hard earned money. Please forward this e-mail to any one you know and encourage them to do the same.
Thank you!"

starbucks
Crappachino

This may be, as noted, an urban legend, but even if it isn't, as described it was a decision by a low-level employee, not a corporate decision. I don't believe in holding a corporation's feet to the fire for a bad decision made by one out of 10,000 employees! When you're a low-level employee who really needs a job, giving away your company's inventory under any circumstances has to be a tough decision, even though most of us would probably regard this as the wrong one.

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 12:27 PM

Read the thread, dude. I'm goofing on this kind of thinking

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Using that kind of logic, don't use anything made of plastic or with plastic in it, because you know the petroleum plastics are generally made from comes from undemocratic countries which oppress women.

I can't imagine how the lives of the people in those countries will become magically better by starving them through a boycott.

optikalz · 02-07-2002, 12:28 PM

I think this point was already refined above

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Originally posted by 12clicks

Are you compairing a couple of private ambulance drivers handing out bottles of water to the firemen/police heros who died that day? It sure sounds like it.

eroswebmaster · 02-07-2002, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by jollyperv
I don't believe it, but fuck starbuck's anyway. Anybody see that simpsons episode where every store in the mall turned into a starbuck's? Pretty funny shit.

No never saw it...but was visiting my father in Seattle a few years back and we were driving through the downtown area and there was 2 Starbucks on the same city block.
One was at like the nw corner the other at the se corner.

That just fucked me up...LOL...because it proved everything people were saying about them was true.

eros

Mojo · 02-07-2002, 12:38 PM

I have a question.

Was it Deer Park water or Poland Spring?

12clicks · 02-07-2002, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster

That just fucked me up...LOL...because it proved everything people were saying about them was true.

eros

That they are extremely popular and offer tasty products?

02-07-2002, 07:55 AM	#1
Clay Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 735	ill never drink starbucks again http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/starbuck.htm "My family owns an ambulance service in Brooklyn NY. Midwood Ambulance if anyone knows it. Anyway, my uncles were at "Ground Zero" during the attack to help the victims. They donated their time to help with this crisis as many New Yorkers did. A great deal of people were in shock from the devastation. As many of you know, shock victims are supposed to drink a lot of water. My uncle went to the Starbucks down the street to get bottles of water for the victims he was treating. Can you believe they actually charged him for it!! He paid the $130 for 3 cases of bottled water out of his own pocket. Now, I would think that in a crisis such as this, vendors in the area would be more than happy to lend a little help by donating water. Well, not Starbucks! As if this country hasn't given them enough money! Anyway, the point of this story wasn't to glorify my uncle's actions but to suggest a boycott on Starbucks. Now, I love Frappaccinos as much as anyone, but any company that would try to make a profit off of a crisis like this doesn't deserve the American public's hard earned money. Please forward this e-mail to any one you know and encourage them to do the same. Thank you!" starbucks Crappachino

02-07-2002, 08:04 AM	#4
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	I'm one of Starbucks' best customers and will remain so. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

02-07-2002, 09:23 AM	#25
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	lets end this bullshit. I doubt that the ambulance crew "donated" their time. If they were there for the initial response (the only time water would be needed) you can bet they were on the job and you can bet the ambulance company billed the city or the hospitals for their time. While what a 6 dollar an hour employee did might not have been the smartest thing, pretending that everyone else involved was pure as driven snow is naive. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

02-07-2002, 10:47 AM	#29
rollin2 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 542	anybody who risks their life for another person is a hero. i don't think anyone could disagree with me. __________________ Free Adult Hosting! No header Advertising!

02-07-2002, 08:01 AM	#2
optikalz Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lost Angelez Posts: 555	Can anyone spell "U R B A N L E G E N D"? Since we're on this topic, how bout the infamous, though nonexistent, Tommy Hilfiger appearance on the Oprah show where he declared that he would not want to sell his clothes to black people? Or how about the email report floating around the Net last year about KFC changing its name from Kentucky Fried Chicken because they are no longer using REAL chickens?

02-07-2002, 08:02 AM	#3
Lev Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,545	Thats sucks. I'll never buy anything from there. And how about those fake charity groups that collected donations from people for the September 11 events and put it in thier own pocket.

02-07-2002, 08:05 AM	#5
Mr Docter Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 148	Um.. How do you Fake a piece of chicken?? Bone, Meat, Skin.. You cant grow that on a tree.. Why did he Choose Starbucks of all places??

02-07-2002, 08:05 AM	#6
Forest Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hollywood Fl. Posts: 8,988	Friends DONT let Friends go to Starbucks

02-07-2002, 08:07 AM	#7
optikalz Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lost Angelez Posts: 555	Perhaps a better reason to NOT buy from Starbucks is because the company supports repressive Third World regimes by sourcing its coffee from those countries?

02-07-2002, 09:27 AM	#26
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	From reading that article on Nando, it sure doesn't sound like the President of Starbucks condoned what happened. I seriously doubt Starbucks' company policy is to charge rescue workers for water in emergency situations.

02-07-2002, 10:59 AM	#33
Nedder Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 555	I personally support oppressive 3rd World Regimes, I'm trying to get them to build sites for me. And you can make a nice chicken out of soybeans. Nz

02-07-2002, 11:22 AM	#37
jollyperv Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 3,927	I don't believe it, but fuck starbuck's anyway. Anybody see that simpsons episode where every store in the mall turned into a starbuck's? Pretty funny shit.

02-07-2002, 12:38 PM	#46
Mojo Used to be a Legend Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 356	I have a question. Was it Deer Park water or Poland Spring?