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Clay 02-07-2002 07:55 AM

ill never drink starbucks again
 
http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/starbuck.htm


"My family owns an ambulance service in Brooklyn NY. Midwood Ambulance if anyone knows it. Anyway, my uncles were at "Ground Zero" during the attack to help the victims. They donated their time to help with this crisis as many New Yorkers did. A great deal of people were in shock from the devastation.

As many of you know, shock victims are supposed to drink a lot of water. My uncle went to the Starbucks down the street to get bottles of water for the victims he was treating. Can you believe they actually charged him for it!! He paid the $130 for 3 cases of bottled water out of his own pocket. Now, I would think that in a crisis such as this, vendors in the area would be more than happy to lend a little help by donating water. Well, not Starbucks! As if this country hasn't given them enough money! Anyway, the point of this story wasn't to glorify my uncle's actions but to suggest a boycott on Starbucks.

Now, I love Frappaccinos as much as anyone, but any company that would try to make a profit off of a crisis like this doesn't deserve the American public's hard earned money. Please forward this e-mail to any one you know and encourage them to do the same.
Thank you!"


:ak47: starbucks
:BangBang: Crappachino

optikalz 02-07-2002 08:01 AM

Can anyone spell "U R B A N L E G E N D"?

Since we're on this topic, how bout the infamous, though nonexistent, Tommy Hilfiger appearance on the Oprah show where he declared that he would not want to sell his clothes to black people? Or how about the email report floating around the Net last year about KFC changing its name from Kentucky Fried Chicken because they are no longer using REAL chickens?

Lev 02-07-2002 08:02 AM

Thats sucks. I'll never buy anything from there. And how about those fake charity groups that collected donations from people for the September 11 events and put it in thier own pocket.

12clicks 02-07-2002 08:04 AM

I'm one of Starbucks' best customers and will remain so. :1orglaugh

Mr Docter 02-07-2002 08:05 AM

Um.. How do you Fake a piece of chicken?? Bone, Meat, Skin.. You cant grow that on a tree..


Why did he Choose Starbucks of all places??

Forest 02-07-2002 08:05 AM

Friends DONT let Friends go to Starbucks

optikalz 02-07-2002 08:07 AM

Perhaps a better reason to NOT buy from Starbucks is because the company supports repressive Third World regimes by sourcing its coffee from those countries?

Clay 02-07-2002 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
I'm one of Starbucks' best customers and will remain so. :1orglaugh
:throwup

12clicks 02-07-2002 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by linkyd
Perhaps a better reason to NOT buy from Starbucks is because the company supports repressive Third World regimes by sourcing its coffee from those countries?
wow, is this a joke or are there really people who think like this?

Mr Docter 02-07-2002 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
I'm one of Starbucks' best customers and will remain so. :1orglaugh
Im not much of a coffee drinker but I am from the Seattle Area where Starbucks origanated and I am always for Local buisness', so if anyone is mad at what they did just dont buy there bottled water. It makes sence to me.

optikalz 02-07-2002 08:11 AM

Dude, I went to Cal Berkeley for undergrad... believe me, there are people who really think like this :) For fucks sake, Berkeley is a Nuclear Free Zone... Like those multiple MIRV warheads have a GPS exclusion for zip codes :)

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


wow, is this a joke or are there really people who think like this?


12clicks 02-07-2002 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by linkyd
Dude, I went to Cal Berkeley for undergrad... believe me, there are people who really think like this :) For fucks sake, Berkeley is a Nuclear Free Zone... Like those multiple MIRV warheads have a GPS exclusion for zip codes :)


Yikes! you're the real McCoy! :)

optikalz 02-07-2002 08:16 AM

Actually, I don't buy that whole liberal BS... I'm a Libertarian. Less taxes, Less Laws, More freedom, more profit. :D

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


Yikes! you're the real McCoy! :)


Mr Docter 02-07-2002 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by linkyd
Dude, I went to Cal Berkeley for undergrad... believe me, there are people who really think like this :) For fucks sake, Berkeley is a Nuclear Free Zone... Like those multiple MIRV warheads have a GPS exclusion for zip codes :)


It might be your "Cal Berkely" education that might be boggling me but dude, I dident understand one word you said.

I dident know that berkely foke used the word "dude"... wow, at least I learned somthing from your rambles..

optikalz 02-07-2002 08:22 AM

I'm glad you got something. :)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Docter

It might be your "Cal Berkely" education that might be boggling me but dude, I dident understand one word you said.

I dident know that berkely foke used the word "dude"... wow, at least I learned somthing from your rambles..


jimmyf 02-07-2002 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


wow, is this a joke or are there really people who think like this?

Yip 10's of 1,000's if not in the millions.
Dip shit's are dumb as a rock.

optikalz 02-07-2002 08:48 AM

You just described the Democratic Party. lol

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Originally posted by jimmyf


Yip 10's of 1,000's if not in the millions.
Dip shit's are dumb as a rock.


optikalz 02-07-2002 08:53 AM

Dude, its an urban legend passed along by email last year. Supposedly the "chickens" were "cloned"
Here's a link:
http://www.unh.edu/BoilerPlate/kfc.html

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Docter
Um.. How do you Fake a piece of chicken?? Bone, Meat, Skin.. You cant grow that on a tree..


Why did he Choose Starbucks of all places??


railz 02-07-2002 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by linkyd
Can anyone spell "U R B A N L E G E N D"?

http://www.nando.net/special_reports...-1210702c.html

Can anyone spell "R E S E A R C H"?

Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction.

optikalz 02-07-2002 09:04 AM

My bad, you're right this is the real deal. It just sounded too much like an urban legend at first.

Quote:

Originally posted by railz


http://www.nando.net/special_reports...-1210702c.html

Can anyone spell "R E S E A R C H"?

Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction.


Mr Docter 02-07-2002 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by linkyd
Dude, its an urban legend passed along by email last year. Supposedly the "chickens" were "cloned"
Here's a link:
http://www.unh.edu/BoilerPlate/kfc.html


Thats a whole diffrent thing. Does a cloned chicken not have a sole? Just because they might have be contribed in a testube and incubation chamber in a lab somewhere dosent make them fake.

Whould you consider yourself not alive if you were a clone??

optikalz 02-07-2002 09:05 AM

:)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Docter


Thats a whole diffrent thing. Does a cloned chicken not have a sole? Just because they might have be contribed in a testube and incubation chamber in a lab somewhere dosent make them fake.

Whould you consider yourself not alive if you were a clone??


jimmyf 02-07-2002 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by linkyd
You just described the Democratic Party. lol


Yip am very aware of that.:)

Hate to admit it but I was one for years.
Took me until I was about 39 years old to
see the light. So I guess that means I was dumber than rock also.
:winkwink:

optikalz 02-07-2002 09:10 AM

I feel you dude, I was a diehard liberal democrat in college--you know, welfare for everyone, no nukes, that kind of stuff. As I got older and had to start paying taxes, worrying about my neighborhood, etc I became more conservative.......quickly :)

There's no shame nor guilt in wanting a safer neighborhood, higher property values, in keeping more of the money you worked so hard to earn...

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf


Yip am very aware of that.:)

Hate to admit it but I was one for years.
Took me until I was about 39 years old to
see the light. So I guess that means I was dumber than rock also.
:winkwink:


12clicks 02-07-2002 09:23 AM

lets end this bullshit. I doubt that the ambulance crew "donated" their time.
If they were there for the initial response (the only time water would be needed) you can bet they were on the job and you can bet the ambulance company billed the city or the hospitals for their time.
While what a 6 dollar an hour employee did might not have been the smartest thing, pretending that everyone else involved was pure as driven snow is naive. :)

FATPad 02-07-2002 09:27 AM

From reading that article on Nando, it sure doesn't sound like the President of Starbucks condoned what happened. I seriously doubt Starbucks' company policy is to charge rescue workers for water in emergency situations.

Amputate Your Head 02-07-2002 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
I'm one of Starbucks' best customers and will remain so. :1orglaugh
mmmmm...... StarBucks..... DAMN good coffee! :thumbsup

pimplink 02-07-2002 10:09 AM

Going with that logic, then the firemen/police people that died in the Twin Towers were not heroes who sacrificed themselves... just people doing their jobs who got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. According to 12clicks' logic, this is similar to congratulating your busboy if he cleans your table... he's just doing his job. If given the choice, most, if not all people, would have gotten the hell out of there and not get killed? :question

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
lets end this bullshit. I doubt that the ambulance crew "donated" their time.
If they were there for the initial response (the only time water would be needed) you can bet they were on the job and you can bet the ambulance company billed the city or the hospitals for their time.
While what a 6 dollar an hour employee did might not have been the smartest thing, pretending that everyone else involved was pure as driven snow is naive. :)


rollin2 02-07-2002 10:47 AM

anybody who risks their life for another person is a hero.

i don't think anyone could disagree with me.

SykkBoy 02-07-2002 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by Clay

but any company that would try to make a profit off of a crisis like this doesn't deserve the American public's hard earned money.

Does that include the people selling little flag pendants and "patriotic" tshirts and those collectors' coins? I'm sure they are including a nice little profit in there for themselves. What about the Osama Bin Laden toilet paper and tshirts? Aren't those companies essentially profiting from the tragedy?

optikalz 02-07-2002 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rollin2
anybody who risks their life for another person is a hero.

i don't think anyone could disagree with me.

Hmmmm... that seems to analyze situations purely based on outcomes and appearances. What if the person who saves your life does not care about you and just wants to get paid cuz its his job?

Maybe heroism should be defined as a combination of both action and intent? :question

Amputate Your Head 02-07-2002 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimplink
Going with that logic, then the firemen/police people that died in the Twin Towers were not heroes who sacrificed themselves... just people doing their jobs who got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. According to 12clicks' logic, this is similar to congratulating your busboy if he cleans your table... he's just doing his job. If given the choice, most, if not all people, would have gotten the hell out of there and not get killed? :question


Yes, exactly right. Firstly, I'm pretty sure they didn't go in there to "sacrifice themselves". They went in to help out by doing their jobs. So let's not get all sacrificial an shit. And yes, I'm pretty sure if most of them could've actually KNOWN they were gonna die, they probly would've gotten the fuck out of there.

Nedder 02-07-2002 10:59 AM

I personally support oppressive 3rd World Regimes, I'm trying to get them to build sites for me.

And you can make a nice chicken out of soybeans.

Nz

optikalz 02-07-2002 11:08 AM

ROFL Yeah those Chinese PHP programmers rule!

There's no "incentive plan" more effective than having an AK47 pointed at your back :eek2

Actually, re the chicken remark, you are right... its called TVP -- texture vegetable protein.

Quote:

Originally posted by Nedder
I personally support oppressive 3rd World Regimes, I'm trying to get them to build sites for me.

And you can make a nice chicken out of soybeans.

Nz


optikalz 02-07-2002 11:11 AM

So AMP, based on the logic/argumentation so far, would you agree with the following statement?
"Mourning the firefighters/policemen that died at the Twin Towers on 9/11 with a memorial would make just as much sense as building a memorial to a Domino's Pizza Driver who got killed by a bus on his way to deliver a pizza"

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

Yes, exactly right. Firstly, I'm pretty sure they didn't go in there to "sacrifice themselves". They went in to help out by doing their jobs. So let's not get all sacrificial an shit. And yes, I'm pretty sure if most of them could've actually KNOWN they were gonna die, they probly would've gotten the fuck out of there.


Amputate Your Head 02-07-2002 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by linkyd
So AMP, based on the logic/argumentation so far, would you agree with the following statement?
"Mourning the firefighters/policemen that died at the Twin Towers on 9/11 with a memorial would make just as much sense as building a memorial to a Domino's Pizza Driver who got killed by a bus on his way to deliver a pizza"


I didn't say that... you did.

But I would imagine the Dominos Pizza boy would probly get a memorial as well. People love them memorials.

jollyperv 02-07-2002 11:22 AM

I don't believe it, but fuck starbuck's anyway. Anybody see that simpsons episode where every store in the mall turned into a starbuck's? Pretty funny shit.

optikalz 02-07-2002 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

I didn't say that... you did.

But I would imagine the Dominos Pizza boy would probly get a memorial as well. People love them memorials.

I know I did say it, I was just asking if you'd agree with it.

My whole point is 1) Heroism is a combination of intent and action [same analysis for crimes--a crime is a combination of 2 elements, mens rea [intent] and action] 2) the American media's rush to create "heroes" out of a tragedy really distorts the meaning of heroism.

Amputate Your Head 02-07-2002 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by linkyd
the American media's rush to create "heroes" out of a tragedy really distorts the meaning of heroism.
This statement I will agree with.

UnseenWorld 02-07-2002 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by linkyd
Perhaps a better reason to NOT buy from Starbucks is because the company supports repressive Third World regimes by sourcing its coffee from those countries?
Using that kind of logic, don't use anything made of plastic or with plastic in it, because you know the petroleum plastics are generally made from comes from undemocratic countries which oppress women.

I can't imagine how the lives of the people in those countries will become magically better by starving them through a boycott.

12clicks 02-07-2002 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimplink
Going with that logic, then the firemen/police people that died in the Twin Towers were not heroes who sacrificed themselves... just people doing their jobs who got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. According to 12clicks' logic, this is similar to congratulating your busboy if he cleans your table... he's just doing his job. If given the choice, most, if not all people, would have gotten the hell out of there and not get killed? :question


Are you compairing a couple of private ambulance drivers handing out bottles of water to the firemen/police heros who died that day? It sure sounds like it.

UnseenWorld 02-07-2002 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Clay
http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/starbuck.htm


Now, I love Frappaccinos as much as anyone, but any company that would try to make a profit off of a crisis like this doesn't deserve the American public's hard earned money. Please forward this e-mail to any one you know and encourage them to do the same.
Thank you!"


:ak47: starbucks
:BangBang: Crappachino


This may be, as noted, an urban legend, but even if it isn't, as described it was a decision by a low-level employee, not a corporate decision. I don't believe in holding a corporation's feet to the fire for a bad decision made by one out of 10,000 employees! When you're a low-level employee who really needs a job, giving away your company's inventory under any circumstances has to be a tough decision, even though most of us would probably regard this as the wrong one.

optikalz 02-07-2002 12:27 PM

Read the thread, dude. I'm goofing on this kind of thinking

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld


Using that kind of logic, don't use anything made of plastic or with plastic in it, because you know the petroleum plastics are generally made from comes from undemocratic countries which oppress women.

I can't imagine how the lives of the people in those countries will become magically better by starving them through a boycott.


optikalz 02-07-2002 12:28 PM

I think this point was already refined above

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


Are you compairing a couple of private ambulance drivers handing out bottles of water to the firemen/police heros who died that day? It sure sounds like it.


eroswebmaster 02-07-2002 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jollyperv
I don't believe it, but fuck starbuck's anyway. Anybody see that simpsons episode where every store in the mall turned into a starbuck's? Pretty funny shit.
No never saw it...but was visiting my father in Seattle a few years back and we were driving through the downtown area and there was 2 Starbucks on the same city block.
One was at like the nw corner the other at the se corner.

That just fucked me up...LOL...because it proved everything people were saying about them was true.

eros

Mojo 02-07-2002 12:38 PM

I have a question.

Was it Deer Park water or Poland Spring?

12clicks 02-07-2002 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster


That just fucked me up...LOL...because it proved everything people were saying about them was true.

eros


That they are extremely popular and offer tasty products?


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