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SmokeyTheBear 08-05-2005 11:59 AM

50 shits hitting the fan..


strange considering the type of movies alfred spellman made..

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id...f=info&intl=us

XPays 08-05-2005 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay
I just spoke with Evasive Angles and our lawyer. TTboy has not been shooting content in Brazil in over a year. These people have nothing to do with OCCash or Brazil Bang. We have called our lawyer and there will be a retraction and posibly a lawsuit filed against XBiz by this time tomorrow.

tomorrow is saturday fyi. anyway, xbiz as a news source seems like a stupid lawsuit for you to even threaten. of course you are pissed, but....

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-05-2005 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike33
Are these names familiar to people on this board?


None of them are familier to me.

Va2k 08-05-2005 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ganjasaurus
i dont know what he is.... just a sheep i guess. (most people around here will believe anything they read)

i am sorry for the name calling, lol.. .i was just pissed.


---

But the article is invalid... u will see..... neither Evasive Angles, nor ourselves had anything to do with this.... TTBoy hasnt shot in Brazil for at least a year now..

Well shit after seeing xxjays comments and shit I would have to agree about being pissed.. Good luck dude ya all going to prolly need it :(
TOM

SmokeyTheBear 08-05-2005 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
xbiz as a news source seems like a stupid lawsuit for you to even threaten. of course you are pissed, but....


lol this coming from mr. sue :winkwink:

CDSmith 08-05-2005 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay
I just spoke with Evasive Angles and our lawyer. TTboy has not been shooting content in Brazil in over a year. These people have nothing to do with OCCash or Brazil Bang. We have called our lawyer and there will be a retraction and posibly a lawsuit filed against XBiz by this time tomorrow.

If you guys are suing Xbiz for what they printed, you might want to sue pimp puppy for putting your company name + "underage shoots" in this thread title.

Hey, suing people who deserve it is fun.

Manowar 08-05-2005 12:03 PM

OCcash fucking rock. Fuck this shit.

XPays 08-05-2005 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
lol this coming from mr. sue :winkwink:

hey smokey - since you are so gifted using google - find a lawsuit where xpays is the plaintiff.

yes there is a udrp we won against xxxpays but find us a real suit or shut the fuck up because you sound like a parrot mimicking false info.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-05-2005 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
hey smokey - since you are so gifted using google - find a lawsuit where xpays is the plaintiff.

yes there is a udrp we won against xxxpays but find us a real suit or shut the fuck up because you sound like a parrot mimicking false info.


I remember when Brad Shaw had his dog piss on your C&D.

Thats was awesome.

XPays 08-05-2005 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
I remember when Brad Shaw had his dog piss on your C&D.

Thats was awesome.

he complied with it though.

The Ghost 08-05-2005 12:08 PM

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"Police were summoned to the large home in response to complaints by prostitutes that they had not been paid adequately. Some of the prostitutes were underage."
Just because something like this is reported, doesn't mean it is necessarily true. I'm not on either side of this, just stating the obvious before everyone get too crazy.

Quote:

The Americans, who are associated with the website BrazilBang.com, claimed ignorance of the Brazilian law. They also said they expected to make $40,000 in the United States for the films. The prostitutes involved claimed to have been paid between $120 and $130 for their services.
I find it fitting that additional justification is made since the persons filming were going to make money on the content produced. It also seems unbelievable that anyone would skip out on a payment of $130 for content.

But then again why would the guys producing the content name any a specific company or entity that the content was being produced for. That doesn't sound like the brightest decision to make. Something doesn't smell right about any of that.

I will say if Evasive Angles is proven guilty of intentional underage shooting, it will be the end of the company and a huge HUGE black eye for the industry. Totally not needed now :2 cents:

CDSmith 08-05-2005 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
tomorrow is saturday fyi. anyway, xbiz as a news source seems like a stupid lawsuit for you to even threaten. of course you are pissed, but....

That's why as a news source you have to do fact-checking before linking someone's company to such things as "underage shoots".

If OCCash were my company I'd be looking into suing over what you wrote too.

What's stupid is publishing untrue comments. It's what punitive dammages was invented for.

XPays 08-05-2005 12:10 PM

wasn't ttboy's company also at the root of the aids outbreak?

DateDoc 08-05-2005 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
That's why as a news source you have to do fact-checking before linking someone's company to such things as "underage shoots".

If OCCash were my company I'd be looking into suing over what you wrote too.

What's stupid is publishing untrue comments. It's what punitive dammages was invented for.

Used to be news was news and you didnt have to check to see if it was right or not because it was news. :Oh crap

(Gk) 08-05-2005 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ganjasaurus
i dont know what he is.... just a sheep i guess. (most people around here will believe anything they read)

i am sorry for the name calling, lol.. .i was just pissed.


---

But the article is invalid... u will see..... neither Evasive Angles, nor ourselves had anything to do with this.... TTBoy hasnt shot in Brazil for at least a year now..

I'm not into gfy drama, just wanted to hear what occash had to say about it since xbiz is (was?) a reliable source. It's a very serious statement and I hope you get things cleared with xbiz.

Rui 08-05-2005 12:12 PM

Looking forward to know more about this.................

CDSmith 08-05-2005 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterPorn
Used to be news was news and you didnt have to check to see if it was right or not because it was news. :Oh crap

Oh? When was that?

XPays 08-05-2005 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
That's why as a news source you have to do fact-checking before linking someone's company to such things as "underage shoots".

If OCCash were my company I'd be looking into suing over what you wrote too.

What's stupid is publishing untrue comments. It's what punitive dammages was invented for.

i can't speak for anyone else- but isn't a news source able to print a retraction and so long as the info was received in good faith, they are not really in big trouble? occash seems to be in the clear and a retraction or clarification is what they need?

seven 08-05-2005 12:14 PM

Quote:

Prostitution is legal in Brazil and making porn films is not unlawful. But it is a crime to exploit prostitutes.
Isn't this self-contradictory? Or do they mean not paying the prostitutes is exploiting prostitutses=crime? anyway, doubt it'll hold up in court unless underage porn shoot is proven. one thing very strange thou, OCcash just claimed that their vids are non-exclsuives yet the news say it was being shot exclusively for OCcash? what gives? well.. why bother reading xbiz.. I don't.

wha wha wha 08-05-2005 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
i can't speak for anyone else- but isn't a news source able to print a retraction and so long as the info was received in good faith, they are not really in big trouble? occash seems to be in the clear and a retraction or clarification is what they need?

I think it would depend on their source. Look at the Yahoo article, it makes no mentions of BrazilBang.com or marijuana. If their source was Yahoo, then someone added these little bits maliciously.

Roald 08-05-2005 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
wasn't ttboy's company also at the root of the aids outbreak?

yeah I think there was some connection

Mr. Pat 08-05-2005 12:17 PM

that's bad, i hope it isn't true

SmokeyTheBear 08-05-2005 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
hey smokey - since you are so gifted using google - find a lawsuit where xpays is the plaintiff.

yes there is a udrp we won against xxxpays but find us a real suit or shut the fuck up because you sound like a parrot mimicking false info.


LOL don't get you panties in a bunch dude. It was a joke. Only referring to speed at which you threaten a lawsuit.. Wasn't meant negatively..

wha wha wha 08-05-2005 12:18 PM

Reuters:
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsAr...IL-PORN-DC.XML

Again, no mention of BrazilBang.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-05-2005 12:18 PM

XBIZ wouldnt pull that shit out of there ass.

They are not stupid.

SmokeyTheBear 08-05-2005 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
parrot mimicking false info.


?? what have you been smoking seriously.. I didn't mimick anything i just called you mr.sue. It was a joke, put down the crack pipe..

or am i missing something here ? did someone else call you mr. sue ?

Morgan 08-05-2005 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
wasn't ttboy's company also at the root of the aids outbreak?

No.

The US Government is the root.

Seriously though... Darren James (who is a contract worker for Evasive Angles) contracted aids down in Brazil and it was not during one of TTBoy's shoots. :2 cents:

hottoddy 08-05-2005 12:21 PM

Lots of back peddling . . .

CDSmith 08-05-2005 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
i can't speak for anyone else- but isn't a news source able to print a retraction and so long as the info was received in good faith, they are not really in big trouble? occash seems to be in the clear and a retraction or clarification is what they need?

Of course you are able to print a retraction, but that doesn't necessarily preclude you from being sued for damages.

Were any company reps from OCCash interviewed before this went to print?

XPays 08-05-2005 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ganjasaurus
No.

The US Government is the root.

Seriously though... Darren James (who is a contract worker for Evasive Angles) contracted aids down in Brazil and it was not during one of TTBoy's shoots. :2 cents:


semantics. the same guy gave aids out on a ttboy shoot weeks later? seems to be a pattern of problems with his business. has to be unnerving for anyone using his content.

DarkJedi 08-05-2005 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
XBIZ wouldnt pull that shit out of there ass.

They are not stupid.

holy fucking shit.
can't you post just one sentence without making any grammatical errors ?


did you ever go to school ?

SmokeyTheBear 08-05-2005 12:26 PM

This seems way to fishy..

I would like to know how occash got added/associated with this.. Seems like malicious intent, unless theres some reasonable explanation.

DivX 08-05-2005 12:27 PM

This is from a reliable newspaper from Rio de Janeiro:

http://arquivoglobo.globo.com/pesqui...codigo=2315643

The names:

David Joseph de Nino, de 24 anos, Alfred Eric Spellman, de 27, Marco Antonio Garcia, de 35, William Marcus Cohen, de 26, Conrado Gomes Junior, de 38, Stewart Lindsay Hopwele, de 26, Keith Anthony Ludwigsen, de 32, e William Wayne Fernandez, de 33

Morgan 08-05-2005 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
This seems way to fishy..

I would like to know how occash got added/associated with this.. Seems like malicious intent, unless theres some reasonable explanation.

u and me both man.... we're working on it. And TT's pissed.

Roald 08-05-2005 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
holy fucking shit.
can't you post just one sentence without making any grammatical errors ?


did you ever go to school ?

haha I love you!

wha wha wha 08-05-2005 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
holy fucking shit.
can't you post just one sentence without making any grammatical errors ?


did you ever go to school ?

Sometimes I think he types it correct, then goes back and changes it. No one is that incompetent.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-05-2005 12:28 PM

Maybe the content they were shooting was destined for Brazil Bang?

Video was confiscated. If they were saying BrazilBang on em...

Well then.
But who knows.

More will come I am sure!

Platinumpimp 08-05-2005 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
holy fucking shit.
can't you post just one sentence without making any grammatical errors ?


did you ever go to school ?

he will tell you: that "Your gay" after that one. :1orglaugh

AdultMegaCash 08-05-2005 12:29 PM

This is really some fucked up news. With the US Gov using "The Child Protection Act" and child pornography as their basis for cracking down on the adult industry, this is something that could be used against us. With Xbiz dropping names of a rather major player in our industry this shows little tact from them as to where they stand. Are they a news source, or are they someone trying to bring eyes to them no matter what the cost?

If they were a news source the proper way to have gone about this would have been to contact a representative from OCCash for comment, to give them a chance to either say no comment, or to clear their name. If what XXXjay is saying is true, which I believe him, Xbiz is in a world of shit, and we really need to ask ourselves if we should support them?

I think that OCCash, along with TTboy should issue a proper press release stating that they have no ties to any of these people at all, that their name was dragged into this for some reason they are uncertain of, and to just show a level of professionalism. They can even have a statement from their lawyer as well. I think something like this would be great for all parties involved, and the adult industry in itself.

XPays 08-05-2005 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
This seems way to fishy..

I would like to know how occash got added/associated with this.. Seems like malicious intent, unless theres some reasonable explanation.

if they have the rights to the shoots for internet and the shoots were in progress, then isn't it natural that the content would end up on their sites?

if that was a previous pattern and this was content from a company they had rights from, then how is the story malicious? occash got caught in a tough position with a seedy vendor.

or,

xbiz totally fucked up

which is it?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-05-2005 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinumpimp
he will tell you: that "Your gay" after that one. :1orglaugh

Thats Your Ghey.

Michael O 08-05-2005 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DivX
This is from a reliable newspaper from Rio de Janeiro:

http://arquivoglobo.globo.com/pesqui...codigo=2315643

The names:

David Joseph de Nino, de 24 anos, Alfred Eric Spellman, de 27, Marco Antonio Garcia, de 35, William Marcus Cohen, de 26, Conrado Gomes Junior, de 38, Stewart Lindsay Hopwele, de 26, Keith Anthony Ludwigsen, de 32, e William Wayne Fernandez, de 33

No mentioning of brazilbang there either only on xbiz.

SmokeyTheBear 08-05-2005 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
if they have the rights to the shoots for internet and the shoots were in progress, then isn't it natural that the content would end up on their sites?

if that was a previous pattern and this was content from a company they had rights from, then how is the story malicious? occash got caught in a tough position with a seedy vendor.

or,

xbiz totally fucked up

which is it?

I would tend to think xbiz fucked up , only because it would be news as to how they got the site name

Morgan 08-05-2005 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
No mentioning of brazilbang there either only on xbiz.

ya, i wonder how much someone paid them to slip that extra "occash" in there. lol hmmm...

Miguel T 08-05-2005 12:48 PM

Wow... this shit is amazing!

Va2k 08-05-2005 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ganjasaurus
ya, i wonder how much someone paid them to slip that extra "occash" in there. lol hmmm...

Looks like xbiz already changed their wording
Damn makes me wondering anything else ive read there was true or not :(
http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9819

RIO DE JANEIRO?Seven American men were arrested by Brazilian police at a Rio de Janeiro rental property where the group had been soliciting local prostitutes for porn shoots.
Police were summoned to the large home in response to complaints by prostitutes that they had not been paid adequately. Some of the prostitutes were underage.

Both prostitution and the filming of pornography are legal in the state of Rio, but the exploitation of prostitution, as police say shooting porn with prostitutes amounts to, is not.

"[The Americans] were contracting prostitutes to make money out of it,? said police investigator Marcus Neves. ?This favors prostitution and is a crime, punishable by a jail term of between two and five years plus fines.?

The Americans claimed ignorance of the Brazilian law. They also said they expected to make $40,000 in the United States for the films. The prostitutes involved claimed to have been paid between $120 and $130 for their services.

The Americans had been living in the mansion in the Sepetiba neighborhood of the city for 40 days. Police seized laptops, video equipment, a small amount of marijuana and several tapes with pornographic content.

A source told XBiz that one of the Americans arrested was a Sundance award-winning documentarian, but that has not been confirmed. The men were identified as David deNino, Alfred Spellman, William Cohen, Conrado Gomes, Stewart Hopowele, Keith Ludwigsen and William Fernandez.

Sly 08-05-2005 12:51 PM

The article says nothing about Brazil Bang now.

Va2k 08-05-2005 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
The article says nothing about Brazil Bang now.

Nope its like it was never there!

baddog 08-05-2005 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Oh? When was that?


http://www.lowlights-now.com/ipw-web...dewey-wins.jpg

riddler 08-05-2005 12:55 PM

lmao, poof evidence is gone :D i hope someone has cached copies to help occash sue these false news reporters..


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