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m0rph3us · 02-04-2002, 02:29 AM

If I'm trying to put up a 2MB file up and 4000 uniques will hit it in 1 hour. I have a '100 simultanous connections' limit on my server, will this limit be too low to allow all users to download the file or will i have to increase the number of sim. connections allowed ?

Plz advise... thx

Barry Porn · 02-04-2002, 02:32 AM

If you mean concurrent connections, yes that should be fine.

The file size has nothing to do with the number of concurrent connections.

Quote:

Originally posted by m0rph3us
If I'm trying to put up a 2MB file up and 4000 uniques will hit it in 1 hour. I have a '100 simultanous connections' limit on my server, will this limit be too low to allow all users to download the file or will i have to increase the number of sim. connections allowed ?

Plz advise... thx

m0rph3us · 02-04-2002, 02:34 AM

yes
simultaneous = concurrent

Barry Porn · 02-04-2002, 02:35 AM

Ok.

Quote:

Originally posted by m0rph3us
yes
simultaneous = concurrent

m0rph3us · 02-04-2002, 02:36 AM

thx Barry

can anybody second that answer plz ?

Barry Porn · 02-04-2002, 02:41 AM

I just spoke to Spacedog on the telephone, and he said I'm correct.

No further verification should be necessary.

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Originally posted by m0rph3us
thx Barry

can anybody second that answer plz ?

RT- · 02-04-2002, 03:05 AM

My two cents.

File size has EVERYTHING to do with the number of concurrent connections (sessions) a server can handle.

From a connection standpoint, your server MAY get overloaded serving such a large file so many times in one hour. You are not factoring the speed in which the (a) connection closes and opens.

On a properly tuned OS running the right http software, you could see something like this. (Sessions /sec vs content size)

Your hard limit of 100 Connections a second sounds like either a File Descriptor limit (that can be changed depending on the OS), Memory (or in this case memory buffers size).

First, I would find out if you can set your max concurrent sessions higher in the OS. This is also known as File Descriptors. It?s the control in the IP stack that accounts for each session, and disallows any others if the hard limit is reached. This is a tunable parameter in the OS.

As for memory buffers, this depends on how much memory you system has. This is the memory table that keeps track of connection state, etc. Too much to get into here. Anyway? you can crank this up.. but it could cause an issue with machines with a small amount of memory. To uncomplicate it, the larger the memory buffer, the more connections your system can keep track of vis-a-vis serve.

There are a few other OS parameters to tune to make this work, too many to list. Look for white papers from your OS source (you can always find Performance Optimizing XXX OS) somewhere. Deja.com is also a good place to look.

Check your speed and duplex of the NIC. 100 or 10 Mbits / Full or Half. Most likely you will have 100 Full. Check anyway. Anything other than 100 Full your config will cause latency and packet loss.

RT- · 02-04-2002, 03:07 AM

If you want me to test it, post the URL here and I'll benchmark it and post the results.

It will get you the answer your looking for.

m0rph3us · 02-04-2002, 12:24 PM

Well i figured sharing a 2MB file with 4000 / hour will spike the server to 17Mbits... so NIC isn't a bottleneck here. I know i can change that 100 concurrent connection limit but i just wanna know if it will be enough to facilitate that kind of transfer and users won't be locked out.

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02-04-2002, 03:05 AM	#7
RT- Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 60	My two cents. File size has EVERYTHING to do with the number of concurrent connections (sessions) a server can handle. From a connection standpoint, your server MAY get overloaded serving such a large file so many times in one hour. You are not factoring the speed in which the (a) connection closes and opens. On a properly tuned OS running the right http software, you could see something like this. (Sessions /sec vs content size) Your hard limit of 100 Connections a second sounds like either a File Descriptor limit (that can be changed depending on the OS), Memory (or in this case memory buffers size). First, I would find out if you can set your max concurrent sessions higher in the OS. This is also known as File Descriptors. It?s the control in the IP stack that accounts for each session, and disallows any others if the hard limit is reached. This is a tunable parameter in the OS. As for memory buffers, this depends on how much memory you system has. This is the memory table that keeps track of connection state, etc. Too much to get into here. Anyway? you can crank this up.. but it could cause an issue with machines with a small amount of memory. To uncomplicate it, the larger the memory buffer, the more connections your system can keep track of vis-a-vis serve. There are a few other OS parameters to tune to make this work, too many to list. Look for white papers from your OS source (you can always find Performance Optimizing XXX OS) somewhere. Deja.com is also a good place to look. Check your speed and duplex of the NIC. 100 or 10 Mbits / Full or Half. Most likely you will have 100 Full. Check anyway. Anything other than 100 Full your config will cause latency and packet loss. __________________ - RT

02-04-2002, 03:07 AM	#8
RT- Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 60	If you want me to test it, post the URL here and I'll benchmark it and post the results. It will get you the answer your looking for. __________________ - RT

02-04-2002, 12:24 PM	#9
m0rph3us Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Principality of Sealand Posts: 2,033	Well i figured sharing a 2MB file with 4000 / hour will spike the server to 17Mbits... so NIC isn't a bottleneck here. I know i can change that 100 concurrent connection limit but i just wanna know if it will be enough to facilitate that kind of transfer and users won't be locked out. __________________ <font size="2" face="Tahoma"><a href="http://www.18blowjobs.com/webmasters/?640" target="_blank">Get paid $25 per signup</a> listing over <a href="http://galleries.18blowjobs.com/hosted.html" target="_blank">100 free hosted video galleries</a> - <a href="http://www.18blowjobs.com/webmasters/?640" target="_blank">Check it</a> » </font>