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Old 08-02-2005, 11:36 AM   #1
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Joebucks Adds New Products- Never Been So Easy To Be Scumbags

http://www.glucosium.com/

Raping diabetics selling them shit herbal products that claim: "Glucosium is a revolutionary natural supplement that may stimulate your own body's insulin production "

So low. Lowest I've ever seen a herbal bullshit company go.

This makes me sick
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Old 08-02-2005, 11:38 AM   #2
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I would think that anyone with Diabetes would be smart enough to stay away from crap like that.

Well...I would hope at least.
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Old 08-02-2005, 11:40 AM   #3
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I would think that anyone with Diabetes would be smart enough to stay away from crap like that.

Well...I would hope at least.
You are wrong tho, this sort of product catters to desperate people, that based on this claims may give it a shot
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You are wrong tho, this sort of product catters to desperate people, that based on this claims may give it a shot
Rui I finally agree with you. I guess this topic is bringing people together.
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You are wrong tho, this sort of product catters to desperate people, that based on this claims may give it a shot
I know I'm wrong. I'm sure that page is full of half truths and made up statistics.

I just HOPE that people are smarter than that. Your typical diabetic is pretty aware of EVERYTHING that goes in the body. So there is SOME hope.
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Rui I finally agree with you. I guess this topic is bringing people together.
ohhh come on you make it sound like its a first time ;)

Just because I mainly promote x or y company I will not turn blind to my beliefs m8, I was hoping you already knew that by now
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I know I'm wrong. I'm sure that page is full of half truths and made up statistics.

I just HOPE that people are smarter than that. Your typical diabetic is pretty aware of EVERYTHING that goes in the body. So there is SOME hope.
Well this is a kinda touchy subject, specialy because I do alot of research on this "markets" since its part of some new stuff i'm working on.

Belive me when I tell you that as much informed people are, MANY will indeed belive in desperated times in anything that can help them (this applys to so much stuff), its part of the human nature, like it or not
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i dont know if this product works or not, but if it's a typical bs one this is serious shit. Like the fucking fake cancer treament ebooks that are sold at clickbank.
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Find another way to rip off people, playing with their health and taking advantage their problems is the lowest someone can go.
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Old 08-02-2005, 12:44 PM   #11
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thats pathetic, diabetic herbs now? God i can not fucking wait until the FTC steps in and cleans up america's herbal markets..
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I can already see the new product they will launch to "may" help with AIDS....
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Well this is a kinda touchy subject, specialy because I do alot of research on this "markets" since its part of some new stuff i'm working on.

Belive me when I tell you that as much informed people are, MANY will indeed belive in desperated times in anything that can help them (this applys to so much stuff), its part of the human nature, like it or not
I am still one to believe that diabetics are going to be a bit smarter than most people when it comes to this shit.

I live with this, my father and his father as well. If we were desperate, we'd go talk to a doctor...not order "magic herbal pills" like some guy wanting to grow his two inch cock.

Regardless of that, this JoeBucks company is pure shit in my eyes.
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Are you saying the Testimonial page is fake..?

http://www.glucosium.com/testimonials.php

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I am still one to believe that diabetics are going to be a bit smarter than most people when it comes to this shit.

I live with this, my father and his father as well. If we were desperate, we'd go talk to a doctor...not order "magic herbal pills" like some guy wanting to grow his two inch cock.

Regardless of that, this JoeBucks company is pure shit in my eyes.
Trust me, people actualy buy into this shit, like people buy into MLM schemes and such...
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Brad, have you asked any doctors if the claims are true?
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Brad, have you asked any doctors if the claims are true?
Have you asked yourself if you're a piece of shit? Some things don't need to be asked or said, they are just KNOWN.
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Brad, have you asked any doctors if the claims are true?
Did you read what he quoted in bold?

That is some down right disgusting & sad bullshit they are pulling. Thats the type of shit that makes me embarassed to tell some people what I do for a living.
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"used to be on drugs to control some of the symptoms I experience due to my diabetes. These drugs were prescribed to me by my family doctor, but they have given me more grief than benefit. Since I have completely replaced my prescription drugs with Glucosium and never felt better! This year was the first time in ten years I felt confident enough to go on a camping trip with my family. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to live my life again!
Ryan C. ? Buffalo"


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"used to be on drugs to control some of the symptoms I experience due to my diabetes. These drugs were prescribed to me by my family doctor, but they have given me more grief than benefit. Since I have completely replaced my prescription drugs with Glucosium and never felt better! This year was the first time in ten years I felt confident enough to go on a camping trip with my family. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to live my life again!
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Baddog, please tell me this is supported by a doctor and is a real testimonial and a doctor suggested going off his dose of insulin for this product.
If that is said, I will leave the US - apologize in person to you by making a trip to Florida going out of my way, and I will never come to GFY ever again.
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While many other "gimmick" websites and companies sell products claiming to do wonders for your penis, we are a company backed by its customers, guaranteed by its owners, and medically-approved by a wide population of medical practioners and physicians across the world. The only proven method for proven penis enlargement is the FastSize Extender System?. Utilizing the widely practiced method of traction for tissue-generated assistance, the FS-Extender claims #1 in penis enlargement. 10,000+ satisfied clients cannot be wrong!


nigga please
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Did you read what he quoted in bold?

That is some down right disgusting & sad bullshit they are pulling. Thats the type of shit that makes me embarassed to tell some people what I do for a living.

Dr Nismo, I will ask you, do you know that Glucosium won't stimulate your own body's insulin production?
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While many other "gimmick" websites and companies sell products claiming to do wonders for your penis, we are a company backed by its customers, guaranteed by its owners, and medically-approved by a wide population of medical practioners and physicians across the world. The only proven method for proven penis enlargement is the FastSize Extender System?. Utilizing the widely practiced method of traction for tissue-generated assistance, the FS-Extender claims #1 in penis enlargement. 10,000+ satisfied clients cannot be wrong!


nigga please
This is actually true.
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"used to be on drugs to control some of the symptoms I experience due to my diabetes. These drugs were prescribed to me by my family doctor, but they have given me more grief than benefit. Since I have completely replaced my prescription drugs with Glucosium and never felt better! This year was the first time in ten years I felt confident enough to go on a camping trip with my family. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to live my life again!
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Wow.

Replacing prescription drugs with herbal medications for some conditions may be a decent solution or even a smart one, diabetes is hardly one of those conditions. Diabetes is serious and if not treated properly can lead to many bad, bad medical problems.

Hopefully most diabetics realize this is potentially a scam, but I doubt it. A cheaper solution than what my doctor prescribes? Hell yeh!
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Ya thats really a bit much....

They're just a couple steps off from Cancer cure herbal pills.
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Baddog, please tell me this is supported by a doctor and is a real testimonial and a doctor suggested going off his dose of insulin for this product.

I don't read anywhere in that testimonial where is says his doctor suggested he give up insulin. However, having worked closely with the medical field I can assure you that there are tons of treatments for different ailments that the AMA would never recommend due to the fact that they have nothing to gain from doing so.

That does not mean that they don't work, and have not been used for 1,000's of years with success.
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"used to be on drugs to control some of the symptoms I experience due to my diabetes. These drugs were prescribed to me by my family doctor, but they have given me more grief than benefit. Since I have completely replaced my prescription drugs with Glucosium and never felt better! This year was the first time in ten years I felt confident enough to go on a camping trip with my family. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to live my life again!
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I knew it!

sad thing is they'll probably get away with it unless someone reports them or they spam it and get noticed by the authorities

that's the 'beauty' of herbal products - they're unregulated by the FDA (though that will be changing no doubt - they already have new shipping notifications in place when sending herbal (and some other) products to the US)

if you post testimonials on your website that are false, misleading etc.. then you can most definitely get in trouble for false misrepresentation of a product, PARTICULARLY if you are providing medical advice/suggestions (especially when you're not even a doctor/medically trained professional etc) that can put someone's life at risk (as is the case when a diabetic goes off their medication) - such charges often result in large $$ fines and sometimes jail time (though it has to be something extreme for that).. (and don't forget, the govt can seize your docs/records/sales info etc and whatnot so if you're making false testimonials they WILL find out under investigation)

I'd hate to be the manufacturer/distributor of this product if/when someone is blinded by the 'sell' of it and replaces their essential meds with this and ends up dying. That certainly wouldn't be a good situation for anyone involved.

(I'm not against herbal remedies, some of them can be very beneficial and helpful in CONJUNCTION with prescription medications and etc.. but to imply that a herbal 'remedy' can do the same job as a prescription med when the herbal hasn't been tested/researched/etc through the same procedures as a prescription drug would have to go through seems wrong to me )
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I knew it!

sad thing is they'll probably get away with it unless someone reports them or they spam it and get noticed by the authorities

that's the 'beauty' of herbal products - they're unregulated by the FDA (though that will be changing no doubt - they already have new shipping notifications in place when sending herbal (and some other) products to the US)

if you post testimonials on your website that are false, misleading etc.. then you can most definitely get in trouble for false misrepresentation of a product, PARTICULARLY if you are providing medical advice/suggestions (especially when you're not even a doctor/medically trained professional etc) that can put someone's life at risk (as is the case when a diabetic goes off their medication) - such charges often result in large $$ fines and sometimes jail time (though it has to be something extreme for that).. (and don't forget, the govt can seize your docs/records/sales info etc and whatnot so if you're making false testimonials they WILL find out under investigation)

I'd hate to be the manufacturer/distributor of this product if/when someone is blinded by the 'sell' of it and replaces their essential meds with this and ends up dying. That certainly wouldn't be a good situation for anyone involved.

(I'm not against herbal remedies, some of them can be very beneficial and helpful in CONJUNCTION with prescription medications and etc.. but to imply that a herbal 'remedy' can do the same job as a prescription med when the herbal hasn't been tested/researched/etc through the same procedures as a prescription drug would have to go through seems wrong to me )
outstanding post, thats exactly how I fell
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Baddy, we don't get along but I am sorry I did lose it a bit there. I just get angry when a product like this arrives on the market. I just talked to my GP and he laughed and wanted to know the website URL. He said there is no herbal that could replace medical treatment for diabetes in any way shape or form, if there was he would have done it years ago.

So that was enough proof for me.
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Brad are you a diabetic?
My grandpa is, my boss is, my sister was.
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I don't read anywhere in that testimonial where is says his doctor suggested he give up insulin. However, having worked closely with the medical field I can assure you that there are tons of treatments for different ailments that the AMA would never recommend due to the fact that they have nothing to gain from doing so.

That does not mean that they don't work, and have not been used for 1,000's of years with success.
Why is it that everytime something comes up, you've "worked closely with it"?

I've seen you say this with regards to a number of things.

What did you do in the past that let you work so closely with so many different types?
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Why is it that everytime something comes up, you've "worked closely with it"?

I've seen you say this with regards to a number of things.

What did you do in the past that let you work so closely with so many different types?
Baddog is really a cat. This is his 9th life. He just pretends to be a dog so nobody will catch on.
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Dr Nismo, I will ask you, do you know that Glucosium won't stimulate your own body's insulin production?
It says it will on their site.

"Glucosium's natural ingredients can help control blood sugar, stimulate your body's insulin production, limit nerve damage and much more."

Then right under that, it says:

"Natural Glucosium may help you:
Stimulate Your Body's Natural Insulin"
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I don't read anywhere in that testimonial where is says his doctor suggested he give up insulin. However, having worked closely with the medical field I can assure you that there are tons of treatments for different ailments that the AMA would never recommend due to the fact that they have nothing to gain from doing so.

That does not mean that they don't work, and have not been used for 1,000's of years with success.
This is the biggest crock of shit. I have had many years of experience with fringe medicine. Herbs and quackery are hard to prescribe but tweak it, patent it and if even partially works it is worth millions. The AMA has no need at all to hide "cures". Look at the shit they do to vitamin C to increase margins.
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Well, I am amazed at the results of treatment using your FastSize Extender. The growth to my Penis is fantastic and I am very satisfied. I have always been unhappy with my very ordinaryand boringly average Penis, which measured only 6 inches erect and about 3 incheson the slack. My lack of pride caused me to develop a condition called "performance anxiety". I tried those (so-called) growth pills and manual stretching exercises but these were a waste of time and did nothing."
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Yeah most testimonials are bullshit:

Well, I am amazed at the results of treatment using your FastSize Extender. The growth to my Penis is fantastic and I am very satisfied. I have always been unhappy with my very ordinaryand boringly average Penis, which measured only 6 inches erect and about 3 incheson the slack. My lack of pride caused me to develop a condition called "performance anxiety". I tried those (so-called) growth pills and manual stretching exercises but these were a waste of time and did nothing."
See this is pure ignorance. Want the guys email address to talk to him? These guys were all refunded their purchase of the Extender in exchange for before/after and a testimonial. We actually have a long term plan here unlike the herbals guys who would fuck anyone they can out of $59 a bottle until they get shut down.

I don't expect you to believe anything our site says though, considering companies like Joebucks are in operation throwing this feces around. Makes everyone look like crap.
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Why is it that everytime something comes up, you've "worked closely with it"?

I've seen you say this with regards to a number of things.

What did you do in the past that let you work so closely with so many different types?

Well, in this particular instance, my legal career brought me in close contact with the medical field as I represented clients that had undergone significant medical treatment. Many of my clients were from Korea, thus used treatments from the old country (herbs and acupuncture for example) that insurance companies used to fight tooth and nail. I always won.

Other fields that I dealt closely with would be telecommunications, unions, and politics.

Was there a particular field I claimed to have had significant experience with that you had some question about?
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Well, in this particular instance, my legal career brought me in close contact with the medical field as I represented clients that had undergone significant medical treatment. Many of my clients were from Korea, thus used treatments from the old country (herbs and acupuncture for example) that insurance companies used to fight tooth and nail. I always won.

Other fields that I dealt closely with would be telecommunications, unions, and politics.

Was there a particular field I claimed to have had significant experience with that you had some question about?
I wasn't hating. I'm just curious. Like most of us, I know this wasn't your first "career". I'm just interested is all. You've got some years on most of us

I knew you were a negotiator of some sort.
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Old 08-02-2005, 02:54 PM   #40
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This is the biggest crock of shit. I have had many years of experience with fringe medicine. Herbs and quackery are hard to prescribe but tweak it, patent it and if even partially works it is worth millions. The AMA has no need at all to hide "cures". Look at the shit they do to vitamin C to increase margins.

Well, unless the AMA has changed their stance in the last 8 years, they still don't believe acupuncture is effective treatment while the Chinese have been doing it for 8,000 years.
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I wasn't hating. I'm just curious. Like most of us, I know this wasn't your first "career". I'm just interested is all. You've got some years on most of us

I knew you were a negotiator of some sort.

I didn't think you were hating, just expressing a willingness to discuss my past if there was something in particular you had some question about.
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baddog - what is your relationship with JoeBucks?
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You seem to defend them all the time, when well its without possible defense
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You seem to defend them all the time, when well its without possible defense

I do? Examples?
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