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Kar · 08-01-2005, 06:40 PM

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ibillfan · 08-04-2005, 08:15 PM

Kathy Beardsley was the iBill president from around May of 04 to Feb 05.

If any one should take responsibility for the iBill ship wreck it should be her.

While many web masters were scratching together pennies to feed there kids Kathy Beardsley was taking home $250,000 and driving a new company BMW.

While web masters were trying to get in touch with there sales reps (all of which have been fired from iBill and replaced with customer service reps) she gave the sales dept. a payment called a bridge, a 10,000 dollar a month salary to not answer the phones.

Meanwhile, we are here busting our asses 70-80 hours per week trying to save this company while Mrs.Beardsley and her crew of loyal, former iBill sales reps call on iBill clients trying to get them to go over to this great new company SEGPAY. We are trying to save iBill, get the web masters paid and these scum bags are trying to sink us .

We have to take the abuse and they get to watch from across the room and laugh.
you want to trash the people that were running ibill when the shit hit the fan go to the segpay booth at internext.
you want to help us figure out a way to get you paid , come to the ibill booth and we will work out a payment plan.

tungsten · 08-04-2005, 08:17 PM

i hope someone doesnt lose it or something

Shap · 08-04-2005, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibillfan

Kathy Beardsley was the iBill president from around May of 04 to Feb 05.

If any one should take responsibility for the iBill ship wreck it should be her.

While many web masters were scratching together pennies to feed there kids Kathy Beardsley was taking home $250,000 and driving a new company BMW.

While web masters were trying to get in touch with there sales reps (all of which have been fired from iBill and replaced with customer service reps) she gave the sales dept. a payment called a bridge, a 10,000 dollar a month salary to not answer the phones.

Meanwhile, we are here busting our asses 70-80 hours per week trying to save this company while Mrs.Beardsley and her crew of loyal, former iBill sales reps call on iBill clients trying to get them to go over to this great new company SEGPAY. We are trying to save iBill, get the web masters paid and these scum bags are trying to sink us .

We have to take the abuse and they get to watch from across the room and laugh.
you want to trash the people that were running ibill when the shit hit the fan go to the segpay booth at internext.
you want to help us figure out a way to get you paid , come to the ibill booth and we will work out a payment plan.

You afraid of getting your ass handed to you for showing up at the show? Stop bad mouthing Cathy. Your facts are all bullshit. Cathy made fuck all on this deal. It's those scumbag owners that made off with a killing.

By the way, while we are at it why don't you educate us all on how you (ibill) are spamming the ibill member lists of all clients to drum up some money with your g spot news page. Please do tell us how ibill feels it's ok for them to spam our list since it's been sold and hit up so much by others?

If you were such a respectable hard working ibill employee why not list your name. Afraid to actually tell people who you are? Until you are ready to post your name and who you are please just shut up and stop trying to paint Cathy as the bad person here.

Makingcoin · 08-04-2005, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shap

You afraid of getting your ass handed to you for showing up at the show? Stop bad mouthing Cathy. Your facts are all bullshit. Cathy made fuck all on this deal. It's those scumbag owners that made off with a killing.

By the way, while we are at it why don't you educate us all on how you (ibill) are spamming the ibill member lists of all clients to drum up some money with your g spot news page. Please do tell us how ibill feels it's ok for them to spam our list since it's been sold and hit up so much by others?

If you were such a respectable hard working ibill employee why not list your name. Afraid to actually tell people who you are? Until you are ready to post your name and who you are please just shut up and stop trying to paint Cathy as the bad person here.

Shap · 08-04-2005, 08:35 PM

I think Ibillfan and all other ibill employees should worry about how they are going to pay me the few hundred thousand they owe me. Cathy and posting about Segpay should be the least of the worries. Stop wasting time on GFY and get me my fuckin' money.

Shap · 08-04-2005, 08:49 PM

Isn't it interesting that ibill made their first payout of the year 1 week before the show. Hmmmmmm. I bet we'll be hearing all about that this weekend. 'OH WE ARE BACK look we paid you last week. '

Yeah paying me $8.23 on a transaction that happened because i forgot to REFUND that guy doesn't count. Add on the multiple zeros and maybe you have something.

I can just see it. Next ibill payment will be December 27th just before vegas.

Tango · 08-04-2005, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibillfan

Kathy Beardsley was the iBill president from around May of 04 to Feb 05.

If any one should take responsibility for the iBill ship wreck it should be her.

While many web masters were scratching together pennies to feed there kids Kathy Beardsley was taking home $250,000 and driving a new company BMW.

While web masters were trying to get in touch with there sales reps (all of which have been fired from iBill and replaced with customer service reps) she gave the sales dept. a payment called a bridge, a 10,000 dollar a month salary to not answer the phones.

Meanwhile, we are here busting our asses 70-80 hours per week trying to save this company while Mrs.Beardsley and her crew of loyal, former iBill sales reps call on iBill clients trying to get them to go over to this great new company SEGPAY. We are trying to save iBill, get the web masters paid and these scum bags are trying to sink us .

We have to take the abuse and they get to watch from across the room and laugh.
you want to trash the people that were running ibill when the shit hit the fan go to the segpay booth at internext.
you want to help us figure out a way to get you paid , come to the ibill booth and we will work out a payment plan.

IBillFan FUCKOFF!!!

1st Question: You cannot pay me - but you pay for booth space? WTF

The only fucking payment plan I want is a wire or bank cashiers check for my $27K+

NO Plan
NO Sending you more signups
NO Contracts
NO BULLSHIT

I really hope that someone goes kinda postal on you guys and upturns booth.

Shap · 08-04-2005, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango

IBillFan FUCKOFF!!!

1st Question: You cannot pay me - but you pay for booth space? WTF

The only fucking payment plan I want is a wire or bank cashiers check for my $27K+

NO Plan
NO Sending you more signups
NO Contracts
NO BULLSHIT

I really hope that someone goes kinda postal on you guys and upturns booth.

I agree. VERY VERY LAME. That is a slap in the face.

tony286 · 08-04-2005, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibillfan

Kathy Beardsley was the iBill president from around May of 04 to Feb 05.

If any one should take responsibility for the iBill ship wreck it should be her.

While many web masters were scratching together pennies to feed there kids Kathy Beardsley was taking home $250,000 and driving a new company BMW.

While web masters were trying to get in touch with there sales reps (all of which have been fired from iBill and replaced with customer service reps) she gave the sales dept. a payment called a bridge, a 10,000 dollar a month salary to not answer the phones.

Meanwhile, we are here busting our asses 70-80 hours per week trying to save this company while Mrs.Beardsley and her crew of loyal, former iBill sales reps call on iBill clients trying to get them to go over to this great new company SEGPAY. We are trying to save iBill, get the web masters paid and these scum bags are trying to sink us .

We have to take the abuse and they get to watch from across the room and laugh.
you want to trash the people that were running ibill when the shit hit the fan go to the segpay booth at internext.
you want to help us figure out a way to get you paid , come to the ibill booth and we will work out a payment plan.

I have to agree with ibill fan on this ,these arent the same people who fucked us and it looks they are trying to do the right thing. Why not make a appointment like the article says before reaching to conclusions?

Shap · 08-04-2005, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I have to agree with ibill fan on this ,these arent the same people who fucked us and it looks they are trying to do the right thing. Why not make a appointment like the article says before reaching to conclusions?

Tony i know you are in the same boat as I am. You are wrong on this my man. Cathy isn't the problem here. It is the guys who owned the company. The guys who pulled that IBD -Penthouse sale. Read up on Penthouse and Ibd and see how much $$$$ the ibill owners made off with. They sold our debt to these guys. LAME LAME LAME. Cathy isn't the problem here. Trust me.

ibillfan · 08-04-2005, 10:47 PM

gspot news is a free service to all ibill clients.

ibillfan · 08-04-2005, 10:53 PM

like i said.
scamers dont pay back 100% of the money plus .
if the new name was ANYBILL....your argument would hold water.
ibd took ibill on with a 43mill debt.
people are getting paid.
who ran the business before ibd???

Dax · 08-04-2005, 10:53 PM

Ibillfan.. why do u avoid the topics and questions? ;)

nekrom · 08-04-2005, 10:56 PM

I wish someone would beat the f#ing snot out of them and it gets filmed for all to see, that would make my day nicely.

-N

scoreman · 08-05-2005, 12:47 AM

iBillfan I think calling out Cathy is pretty lame. Cathy was not the juice at iBill, she was the installed strawman/fallguy. Granted it appears she was paid well (hey how much are you making? you seem to have no problem in divulging salaries so why not start with yours and a few others at ibill right now), but her salary was set by others such as the PHSL guys and AJ and his crew right? Its not like she just set her own salary and withdrew funds from the company with no oversight. Those other decisions, such as the bridge thing....was that also something she devised and implemented without checking in with PHSL and Granite Capital?

Isnt PHSL still part owner of iBill seeing as how they own a large stake (isnt it 50%?) in IBD?

scoreman · 08-05-2005, 12:58 AM

One more thing..didnt this problem iBill finds itself in stem from the loss of the merchant acct and wasnt AJ of Granite in charge of that merchant acct? So why not raise the issue that they have some blame in this? What happened to Granite? Were they given an interest in something else like XTV to go away? Is this why you aren't calling them out at all in this rant of yours, because XTV is partly owned by IBD and PHSL?

All my facts here may be way off and probably are. The musical chairs with owners, reverse mergers and stock sales/purchases was pretty confusing, so feel free to own me on my facts.

scoreman · 08-05-2005, 01:15 AM

I said one more thing but hey i have another...this Gspotnews.com that you guys are mailing to our former customers...I see XTV plastered all over GSpotnews. So to take the emails of ours and other clients past and present and mail to them Gspotnews which sells mainly XTV....this is good thing because its free to current iBill clients? What about the former clients that see our email lists being pounded out by iBill to promote XTV....this is suppose to be a good thing that makes us all want to start back up with you guys?

Last year I approached the XTV guys and told them that if they mailed to our lists to push XTV we would be pissed and would never forget it. Guess what, I still remember that conversation, and yes I have no intention of forgetting what you are doing on Gspotnews. I am not surprised though, AJ sat there on the floor of Internext and gave me the big fuckoff when I brought this up with him.

Tango · 08-05-2005, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I have to agree with ibill fan on this ,these arent the same people who fucked us and it looks they are trying to do the right thing. Why not make a appointment like the article says before reaching to conclusions?

there are a few problems with your point of view

1. when you take over a company or transfer ownership - you take the good and the bad - they are trying to ignore the bad and will not pay promptly

2. they have no intention of paying the debts - if they did they would have already done so - NO ONE SHOULD BELIEVE THEM - and this is not my advice - this is the advice of my lawyer and probably of any other lawyer that would look at the fine print joke of a contract that they want people to sign off on

Tango · 08-05-2005, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibillfan

like i said.
scamers dont pay back 100% of the money plus .
if the new name was ANYBILL....your argument would hold water.
ibd took ibill on with a 43mill debt.
people are getting paid.
who ran the business before ibd???

people are getting paid
why you don't cut me a nice sized wire then? (good faith - lets call it)
so far I've got $0 for my $27K+ debt that YOU owe ME

ibillfan · 08-05-2005, 07:00 AM

look i am not trying to pass the buck.
all i am doing is stateing facts.
i came in ( to ibill ) mid April of this year.
the fact is that kathy beardsly was the ibill pres up until mid Feb .
segpay has been on the scene for four and a half five months.
she is the current president of segpay.
along with a good % of former ibill staff , mainlly sales.

im sure kathy is a very nice and hoorable person but look at the facts.
the people at ibill are trying to get web masters paid 100% of there money.
you want to know were your money went??? segpay has a brand new booth , as they are a brand new company.
you want to speak with the people who were in charege of ibill when it stoped paying out ??? you know were they are. we are at internext for one reason , to let people know that we didnt cause this mess but we are going to fix it. people are going to get there money back.

363R · 08-05-2005, 07:08 AM

You have to realize the people working at iBill have nothing to do with what's going on. They are doing there job. They have no say as to what goes on, it's middle and upper management making decisions. There are some loyal people still working for iBill, people that were there before shit hit the fan that have been there 5+ years.

I am not saying go back with iBill, but at least lay off the people who are just doing there jobs and have no say in what goes on.

Edit: I will also go on and say Cathy was great person, and it was great working with her.

She had nothing to do with all those things that happened. She was trying to do right.

Gumball · 08-05-2005, 07:12 AM

why would you all be mad at the new guys that bought ibill? from what I read phsl ownes less than 30% of ibd. its a public co, who cares? the new team seams to be trying to get people paid. Over $34,000,000 so far and yes more to go, but what person is going to put money into a company that has no chance of going on? If ibill is dead the new owners should have shut it down and run off, they didnt! Aj, Kathy, and Jason did! As far as Kathy I dont think ibillfan is saying she took the money, but the people at segpay are the same ones that were at ibill when the trouble happend, not the new guys. I think it shows something when the new guys are willing to show up and face the heat, for that alone they deserve a chance.

Befere we all yell at then we should stop by and see if they are real. We are all mad at the name ibill, but why at the guys trying to get you paid? If they shut down no one gets paid, if they go on everyone can get paid. As you all say, your money is gone the money being paid out comes from the new guys. One more thing iBill has been payng out every 2 weeks since feb 15th.

scoreman · 08-05-2005, 07:16 AM

You come on the boards blasting the designated fallguy (er girl--sorry Cathy) and saying that Segpay took iBill money to build their booth. Do you have proof of this? If you arent Spaniak, then Gary ought to be given a headsup you are saying these things.

You still havent responded to any issues that have been brought up in this thread. Quit ducking the issues if you really want some credibility.

Gumball · 08-05-2005, 07:20 AM

hey guys call that guy Andrew at ibill, he got me paid, and even if its over 12 months it better than not getting paid. none of us thought we would see a dime of this money, but 100% plus interest over 6 or 12 months is good for me. Tango have you tried to get with them?

Tango · 08-05-2005, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibillfan

look i am not trying to pass the buck.
all i am doing is stateing facts.
i came in ( to ibill ) mid April of this year.
the fact is that kathy beardsly was the ibill pres up until mid Feb .
segpay has been on the scene for four and a half five months.
she is the current president of segpay.
along with a good % of former ibill staff , mainlly sales.

im sure kathy is a very nice and hoorable person but look at the facts.
the people at ibill are trying to get web masters paid 100% of there money.
you want to know were your money went??? segpay has a brand new booth , as they are a brand new company.
you want to speak with the people who were in charege of ibill when it stoped paying out ??? you know were they are. we are at internext for one reason , to let people know that we didnt cause this mess but we are going to fix it. people are going to get there money back.

Dude I'll say it again - FUCKOFF
Actions speak louder than words

You have no idea what type of job you got yourself into - you should quit while your ahead in life - IBILL is something that you definately don't want on your resume in the future - people will laugh at you and run

We (meaning anyone that IBILL owes $$$ too) all want 1 thing - to get paid. Your company has not been honest and straight forward in the past and there is no reason to believe the future. Paying up in full is the only thing that will satisfy me.

You say that your going to fix the mess - well in the weeks that you've posted here - I have yet to get 1 email response from you guys or even $1.

You ever hear the term: "Actions speak louder than words" its a popular term that you should research and follow. I for one will not sign 1 document giving away my rights and I will NOT send you $1 more in business until I have some satisfaction on my side.

Get a clue and round up all of the positive and negative GFY messages and give to your bosses - I am sure that they may well packup their bags and never come back to the office if their intentions are honest. If they are a scam (like I suspect) they will ignore this type of info and try to get every newbie possible to give them additional business. It is my job as part of this community to WARN people that you guys should not be trusted - your time of redemption is well past its welcome.

Gumball · 08-05-2005, 07:25 AM

Tango are you going to the show?

Tango · 08-05-2005, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gumball

hey guys call that guy Andrew at ibill, he got me paid, and even if its over 12 months it better than not getting paid. none of us thought we would see a dime of this money, but 100% plus interest over 6 or 12 months is good for me. Tango have you tried to get with them?

Gumball who the fuck are you and who do you work for - your another Ibill cronie - fuck off

and yes I've sent emails - and I have gotten 1 response the rest of the responses where ignored - I had my lawyer review their 'agreement' and he said its not advisable to sign - as there are far too many loopholes and traps that limit their liability - and mostly - I WILL NOT GIVE A THEIF MORE $$ - AFTER THEY ALREADY STOLE MY $$$ - that is just not logical - obviously you don't live in a logical world

Tango · 08-05-2005, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumball

Tango are you going to the show?

I am not going this year - and if I did I'd probably beat the shit out of you

Gumball · 08-05-2005, 07:31 AM

Tango "They" the new guys didnt steal anything, "they" are trying to get you paid, if you dont like there offer have your att call theres. All I am saying is I am getting paid, why would you rather sit here and bash them rather than get paid? I understand you are mad I am mad at the old ibill too.

Tango · 08-05-2005, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gumball

Tango "They" the new guys didnt steal anything, "they" are trying to get you paid, if you dont like there offer have your att call theres. All I am saying is I am getting paid, why would you rather sit here and bash them rather than get paid? I understand you are mad I am mad at the old ibill too.

gumball - you're getting paid - you mean your paycheck from IBill

see fokes - lesson from use of words - be careful what people say

you certainly are not in this business in the same capacity as the rest of us - give me a fucking break

Gumball · 08-05-2005, 07:39 AM

Tango, fuck off, you dont know who I am.

Tango · 08-05-2005, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumball

Tango, fuck off, you dont know who I am.

the truth hurts - almost every single post you've made defends or promotes Ibill
your definately do not have much ground to stand on here idiot

make sure you work hard to get your quota - so you can get commissions this month on your Ibill paycheck - asswipe (I recommend trying some mainstream boards to spam your praise) - the Adult community will lynch you anywhere else

Gumball · 08-05-2005, 07:49 AM

hey tango, you are a dramma queen. why not post your ibill acount # I will call Andrew for you. are you even owed money?

Gumball · 08-05-2005, 07:54 AM

oh and most of yours bash ibill, do you work for ccbill? segpay?

Tango · 08-05-2005, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumball

hey tango, you are a dramma queen. why not post your ibill acount # I will call Andrew for you. are you even owed money?

why don't you post your employee number - asswipe
you have nothing to backup that your an actual customer and not an employee

Gumball · 08-05-2005, 08:02 AM

so I guess no acount #?

Tango · 08-05-2005, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumball

so I guess no acount #?

fuckoff you asswipe - shitbag - employee of ibill
what is your employee #
what is your real contact information
what is your real business (if not an ibill cronie)
how much are you owed

I am not going to waste any more time on your 18 post ass - my lawyer and accountant are handling the 'ibill' matter from a couple months ago - I will not post my account information - but you can sure look up for anyone that you owe $27K+ I'm in that long list that you'll find in that general $$ amount area

Gumball · 08-05-2005, 08:15 AM

so you are another bullshit keyboard cowboy.. stop waisting everyones time.

Tango · 08-05-2005, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumball

so you are another bullshit keyboard cowboy.. stop waisting everyones time.

you have no credibility here - idiot
the proof of burden is on your shoulders - not mine
I think that everyone here would pretty much agree with that

show your information

ivet · 08-05-2005, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumball

Tango "They" the new guys didnt steal anything, "they" are trying to get you paid, if you dont like there offer have your att call theres. All I am saying is I am getting paid, why would you rather sit here and bash them rather than get paid? I understand you are mad I am mad at the old ibill too.

With all due respect iBill newbie, it is not the old iBill that is the issue. It is the current iBill. Not the employees that are thrown to the fire. I am talking about Jason Galanis and his crew, AJ and his crew and the IBD group. The principle owners and shareholders that ruined the company. They are all weaved together. Do you think there was a reason IBD moved in long before they became the "new management"? They are just the suckers that originally agreed to do the reverse merger with PHSL and Jason. They lost their asses on the deal and are stuck. The trail all goes back to Jason. iBill, IBD, XTV, Penthouse International etc. End of story. The old iBill are the people that build the company over many years. People like Cathy and the old sales reps being blasted developed the business and relationships over many years and are the ones hurt (although not as hurt as their clients who lost money and in some cases their business) but still hurt as many people in this business will associate them with the asswipes that destroyed iBill.

Gumball · 08-05-2005, 08:20 AM

I am not trying to proove anything, I offered to help you make a deal with ibill. if you are realy owed money why would you turn that down? Does calling names raise your IQ?

DebsDeep · 08-05-2005, 08:24 AM

People working at ibill have no idea??? Thats bull

Tango · 08-05-2005, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumball

I am not trying to proove anything, I offered to help you make a deal with ibill. if you are realy owed money why would you turn that down? Does calling names raise your IQ?

you avoid the questions to you - yet you demand answers - typical ibill mentality

fuck off - my lawyer is monitoring the situation and it will be handled that way - as we've already taken a look at your companies offers and they are not acceptable - the only solution that we will accept: SHOW ME THE MONEY

your trying to defend this so hard only because your either an employee or an owner (which one are you???)

Gumball · 08-05-2005, 08:27 AM

ivet, I agree with you except for IBD, I agree they were suckers for making the deal but at least they didnt walk away, they are trying. I also agree bashing the old employees dosnt help, but it does smack the employees in the face that stayed and are trying to turn the ship around. All I am saying is that if you are going to bash the people that still work there why not bash Kathy and Segpay? I dont think any ex or curent employees diserve the bashing and the new guys were not even there.

This started by me saying if you are owed money give Andrew a call, he helped me.

Gumball · 08-05-2005, 08:35 AM

wait Tango, "offers" earlier you said they never answered your emails now you have many offers?

josian · 08-05-2005, 08:36 AM

I think theres gonna be violence this year at the Internext...

Tango · 08-05-2005, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumball

wait Tango, "offers" earlier you said they never answered your emails now you have many offers?

I'm done wasting my time with somone who only asks questions and doesn't answer any. My lawyer is dealing with it - if you feel that I liable your company - then sue me - I'd gladly sit in a court for this one.

For the record - your company made 1 offer and that offer was rejected. We emailed your company and only 1 email out of 9 emails was ever returned.

Gumball · 08-05-2005, 08:46 AM

My company? IBD is a public company with 1,000's of shareholders.

ivet · 08-05-2005, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumball

ivet, I agree with you except for IBD, I agree they were suckers for making the deal but at least they didnt walk away, they are trying. I also agree bashing the old employees dosnt help, but it does smack the employees in the face that stayed and are trying to turn the ship around. All I am saying is that if you are going to bash the people that still work there why not bash Kathy and Segpay? I dont think any ex or curent employees diserve the bashing and the new guys were not even there.

This started by me saying if you are owed money give Andrew a call, he helped me.

First, I wouldn't bash Cathy or any ex-employee that tried to do the right thing. I am sure it was difficult for people that had spent many years of hard work at iBill. But neither were in the group of owners or principles that made real decisions. Second, the employees that choose to stay need to be prepared to take the heat. You work for a company that hurt a lot of people and owes a lot of money. Not saying it is your fault but it is your choice to stay. You should be aware of who really controls the company. As far a IBD not walking away...NONE of the group that has controlling interest walked away (Jason, AJ/Granite or IBD.) They will suck every penny out of that company for as long as they possibly can. Sell the database, spam the database, promote XTV to clients customers, push rebills through GKard (the same rebills that clients asked for their data back from iBill) and the list goes on. Who really owns GKard? The only people that walked away were the employees that wouldn't let their reputation be completely tarnished by the disaster in progress. Really sad to see.

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08-05-2005, 12:47 AM	#16
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	iBillfan I think calling out Cathy is pretty lame. Cathy was not the juice at iBill, she was the installed strawman/fallguy. Granted it appears she was paid well (hey how much are you making? you seem to have no problem in divulging salaries so why not start with yours and a few others at ibill right now), but her salary was set by others such as the PHSL guys and AJ and his crew right? Its not like she just set her own salary and withdrew funds from the company with no oversight. Those other decisions, such as the bridge thing....was that also something she devised and implemented without checking in with PHSL and Granite Capital? Isnt PHSL still part owner of iBill seeing as how they own a large stake (isnt it 50%?) in IBD? __________________

08-05-2005, 12:58 AM	#17
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	One more thing..didnt this problem iBill finds itself in stem from the loss of the merchant acct and wasnt AJ of Granite in charge of that merchant acct? So why not raise the issue that they have some blame in this? What happened to Granite? Were they given an interest in something else like XTV to go away? Is this why you aren't calling them out at all in this rant of yours, because XTV is partly owned by IBD and PHSL? All my facts here may be way off and probably are. The musical chairs with owners, reverse mergers and stock sales/purchases was pretty confusing, so feel free to own me on my facts. __________________ Last edited by scoreman; 08-05-2005 at 12:59 AM..

08-04-2005, 08:15 PM	#2
ibillfan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 29	Kathy Beardsley was the iBill president from around May of 04 to Feb 05. If any one should take responsibility for the iBill ship wreck it should be her. While many web masters were scratching together pennies to feed there kids Kathy Beardsley was taking home $250,000 and driving a new company BMW. While web masters were trying to get in touch with there sales reps (all of which have been fired from iBill and replaced with customer service reps) she gave the sales dept. a payment called a bridge, a 10,000 dollar a month salary to not answer the phones. Meanwhile, we are here busting our asses 70-80 hours per week trying to save this company while Mrs.Beardsley and her crew of loyal, former iBill sales reps call on iBill clients trying to get them to go over to this great new company SEGPAY. We are trying to save iBill, get the web masters paid and these scum bags are trying to sink us . We have to take the abuse and they get to watch from across the room and laugh. you want to trash the people that were running ibill when the shit hit the fan go to the segpay booth at internext. you want to help us figure out a way to get you paid , come to the ibill booth and we will work out a payment plan.

08-04-2005, 08:35 PM	#6
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	I think Ibillfan and all other ibill employees should worry about how they are going to pay me the few hundred thousand they owe me. Cathy and posting about Segpay should be the least of the worries. Stop wasting time on GFY and get me my fuckin' money.

08-04-2005, 08:49 PM	#7
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Isn't it interesting that ibill made their first payout of the year 1 week before the show. Hmmmmmm. I bet we'll be hearing all about that this weekend. 'OH WE ARE BACK look we paid you last week. ' Yeah paying me $8.23 on a transaction that happened because i forgot to REFUND that guy doesn't count. Add on the multiple zeros and maybe you have something. I can just see it. Next ibill payment will be December 27th just before vegas.

08-04-2005, 10:47 PM	#12
ibillfan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 29	gspot news is a free service to all ibill clients.

08-04-2005, 10:53 PM	#13
ibillfan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 29	like i said. scamers dont pay back 100% of the money plus . if the new name was ANYBILL....your argument would hold water. ibd took ibill on with a 43mill debt. people are getting paid. who ran the business before ibd???

08-04-2005, 10:53 PM	#14
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	Ibillfan.. why do u avoid the topics and questions? ;)

08-05-2005, 01:15 AM	#18
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	I said one more thing but hey i have another...this Gspotnews.com that you guys are mailing to our former customers...I see XTV plastered all over GSpotnews. So to take the emails of ours and other clients past and present and mail to them Gspotnews which sells mainly XTV....this is good thing because its free to current iBill clients? What about the former clients that see our email lists being pounded out by iBill to promote XTV....this is suppose to be a good thing that makes us all want to start back up with you guys? Last year I approached the XTV guys and told them that if they mailed to our lists to push XTV we would be pissed and would never forget it. Guess what, I still remember that conversation, and yes I have no intention of forgetting what you are doing on Gspotnews. I am not surprised though, AJ sat there on the floor of Internext and gave me the big fuckoff when I brought this up with him. __________________

08-05-2005, 07:00 AM	#21
ibillfan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 29	look i am not trying to pass the buck. all i am doing is stateing facts. i came in ( to ibill ) mid April of this year. the fact is that kathy beardsly was the ibill pres up until mid Feb . segpay has been on the scene for four and a half five months. she is the current president of segpay. along with a good % of former ibill staff , mainlly sales. im sure kathy is a very nice and hoorable person but look at the facts. the people at ibill are trying to get web masters paid 100% of there money. you want to know were your money went??? segpay has a brand new booth , as they are a brand new company. you want to speak with the people who were in charege of ibill when it stoped paying out ??? you know were they are. we are at internext for one reason , to let people know that we didnt cause this mess but we are going to fix it. people are going to get there money back.

08-05-2005, 07:08 AM	#22
363R Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: far far away, in a land unknown. Full of mutants and illegal immigrant webmasters. Posts: 217	You have to realize the people working at iBill have nothing to do with what's going on. They are doing there job. They have no say as to what goes on, it's middle and upper management making decisions. There are some loyal people still working for iBill, people that were there before shit hit the fan that have been there 5+ years. I am not saying go back with iBill, but at least lay off the people who are just doing there jobs and have no say in what goes on. Edit: I will also go on and say Cathy was great person, and it was great working with her. She had nothing to do with all those things that happened. She was trying to do right. Last edited by 363R; 08-05-2005 at 07:10 AM..

08-05-2005, 07:12 AM	#23
Gumball Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 34	why would you all be mad at the new guys that bought ibill? from what I read phsl ownes less than 30% of ibd. its a public co, who cares? the new team seams to be trying to get people paid. Over $34,000,000 so far and yes more to go, but what person is going to put money into a company that has no chance of going on? If ibill is dead the new owners should have shut it down and run off, they didnt! Aj, Kathy, and Jason did! As far as Kathy I dont think ibillfan is saying she took the money, but the people at segpay are the same ones that were at ibill when the trouble happend, not the new guys. I think it shows something when the new guys are willing to show up and face the heat, for that alone they deserve a chance. Befere we all yell at then we should stop by and see if they are real. We are all mad at the name ibill, but why at the guys trying to get you paid? If they shut down no one gets paid, if they go on everyone can get paid. As you all say, your money is gone the money being paid out comes from the new guys. One more thing iBill has been payng out every 2 weeks since feb 15th.

08-05-2005, 07:16 AM	#24
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	You come on the boards blasting the designated fallguy (er girl--sorry Cathy) and saying that Segpay took iBill money to build their booth. Do you have proof of this? If you arent Spaniak, then Gary ought to be given a headsup you are saying these things. You still havent responded to any issues that have been brought up in this thread. Quit ducking the issues if you really want some credibility. __________________

08-05-2005, 07:20 AM	#25
Gumball Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 34	hey guys call that guy Andrew at ibill, he got me paid, and even if its over 12 months it better than not getting paid. none of us thought we would see a dime of this money, but 100% plus interest over 6 or 12 months is good for me. Tango have you tried to get with them?

08-05-2005, 07:25 AM	#27
Gumball Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 34	Tango are you going to the show?

08-05-2005, 07:31 AM	#30
Gumball Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 34	Tango "They" the new guys didnt steal anything, "they" are trying to get you paid, if you dont like there offer have your att call theres. All I am saying is I am getting paid, why would you rather sit here and bash them rather than get paid? I understand you are mad I am mad at the old ibill too.

08-05-2005, 07:39 AM	#32
Gumball Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 34	Tango, fuck off, you dont know who I am.

08-05-2005, 07:49 AM	#34
Gumball Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 34	hey tango, you are a dramma queen. why not post your ibill acount # I will call Andrew for you. are you even owed money?

08-05-2005, 07:54 AM	#35
Gumball Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 34	oh and most of yours bash ibill, do you work for ccbill? segpay?

08-05-2005, 08:02 AM	#37
Gumball Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 34	so I guess no acount #?

08-05-2005, 08:15 AM	#39
Gumball Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 34	so you are another bullshit keyboard cowboy.. stop waisting everyones time.

08-05-2005, 08:20 AM	#42
Gumball Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 34	I am not trying to proove anything, I offered to help you make a deal with ibill. if you are realy owed money why would you turn that down? Does calling names raise your IQ?

08-05-2005, 08:24 AM	#43
DebsDeep Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,649	People working at ibill have no idea??? Thats bull __________________ http://www.gothamscreenprinting.com Cheapest T's Online. $5 tshirts printed, no minimums, no fees of anykind!!!!

08-05-2005, 08:27 AM	#45
Gumball Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 34	ivet, I agree with you except for IBD, I agree they were suckers for making the deal but at least they didnt walk away, they are trying. I also agree bashing the old employees dosnt help, but it does smack the employees in the face that stayed and are trying to turn the ship around. All I am saying is that if you are going to bash the people that still work there why not bash Kathy and Segpay? I dont think any ex or curent employees diserve the bashing and the new guys were not even there. This started by me saying if you are owed money give Andrew a call, he helped me.

08-05-2005, 08:35 AM	#46
Gumball Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 34	wait Tango, "offers" earlier you said they never answered your emails now you have many offers?

08-05-2005, 08:36 AM	#47
josian Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Surrounded By RealMamis! Posts: 276	I think theres gonna be violence this year at the Internext... __________________ Full videos and hundreds of pics of this big tits beauty available for sale. Exclusive and semi-exclusive available.

08-05-2005, 08:46 AM	#49
Gumball Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 34	My company? IBD is a public company with 1,000's of shareholders.