What sort of passes are available for talent?

If the Industry segment depended on itself this wouldnt happen.

But since the Adult Internet Industry is more or less gimped and a colossal bunch of lazy dumb asses...

Suck the AVN cock and enjoy it.
Quit whinning.

I do not like AVN anymore than some of you, and I do not like the Adult Net as it stands. Its the mottliest bunch of retards I have ever seen in my life.

I been here 12 years and just now realising the facts that the Adult Net is a waste land of idiots. You people really deserve this shit maybe worse.

I hesitate to pass judgment as I am sort of leaning toward what JoesTraffic says. I have never gotten near the AEE show, but maybe there are some business opportunities that I have missed because I got out of town before the show began.

Of course, like everyone else who has posted, I am concerned about "mingling with the surfers." However, I do think Aly is right that the price tag of Internext will probably keep most of the CES guys over in the AEE show.

Aly, I think AVN is definitely getting their money's worth from you in the challenges they are throwing your direction. Good luck-I think you're doing a great job!

Matt

i look at this as an opportunity to sell "shemp shirts" to the surfers :thumbsup

just what we need,,,,thousands of noobs wanting a piece of my pie.

How to be in two places at once... Someone clone me!

Hell Shemp, I'll buy one of those ultra cool shirts :-)

I have a friend she works both shows, now she loses that sucks . I wonder have many other girls work both shows and now wont be able to.

Alex

This is one of the Smartest things said so far. :thumbsup

Aly

Thanks for the answer. "Hint" Make sure you have that bus load of Cheerleaders ready so we can't all bitch about having to look at Sleazydream in a bathing suit all day:) LOL

Ron C
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hey do you own a website?

me eather!

50 internext and avn expo...

Tell you what Ron-
shave my back for me and I'll fly out tomorrow to chill with you guys in South Beach
Wait a minute...
I can't do that
I have a TV show to produce
:-))

call me crazy, but i see a silver lining -- :winkwink: -- does anyone else -- ?

2HP

:1orglaugh NICE!

Sleazydream in a bathing suit???

Now I will have nightmares for sure :-)

Matt

damn dude, i didn't even think of that...

tony has a great point there...some girls make good money working those back to back shows...now they are out that second shows income cause AVN had some bright new idea

once again, this idea is fucked

wow, NOW would be a PERFECT time for a larger company to step up and quickly create a new large convention......someone could make a nice chunk of money, that is for sure

ROFLMAO

KB

I hear your feelings and I for one am not excited to think of a Business to Business show turning into a surfer show. Vegas is already crowded enough and hard enough to determine who in the industry and who is not.

In my opinion the reason the show has been moved to these dates is simple. All convention centers will give you free space if you rent a XXX number of rooms. They have a formula for high times and low times. CES convention is earlier this year than ever. There was no way for them to hold Internext in the few days before CES ( The Cheapest time of the Year). If they were to wait till after CES they would probably not have enough rooms due to the higher price of the Venetian Room Suites.

Personally I want AVN to succeed. I want to be able to show up to an event or send my sales staff and return with new business and good will for existing clients. All I ask for in return is that they listen to what the INTERNET COMMUNITY wants in a show.

GFY is a perfect example of what can happen when you forget to listen to your Clients. (Ynot, Netpond, Oprano ). All were once on Top and now look at them

HEAR IS WHY AVN NEEDS TO LISTEN
AVN may feel that there is no way to stop their show. They are dead wrong about this. The way you do it is to put a show on at the same time at a different hotel. The only difference is that it is FREE. The meeting center space would be free with XXX number of rooms reserved. The parties will go on no matter which show is going and the attendees will all be in town. AVN would be stuck with a huge hotel/meeting room space if no one showed up for their show and as a result GAME OVER.

KB before you go and get too excited. I am NOT going to do this. I want to support AVN and try to help them realize that the INTERNET side is IMPORTANT to their future. We need to stand together and try and make this the best show at a fair price for everyone if they are willing to Listen.

If Not there goes a Multi Million Dollar a Year business.

Time will tell the story:)

Well Time to pack I am off to FL in the morning

Ron C
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I completely agree... :thumbsup

See you in Miami!

Can I set up a stand next to yours. My shirts will read

" I'm the guy that prechecked your cross sale! " I think they will be a huge seller.

Or Maybe " Looking for Pop UP free porn??? That show is next door!"

Aly

I apologize for making 2 posts , (Slap MY HAND) but since that was my 100th post I figured it sounded better in Miami that I was in 3 digits when negotiating my large Sig contracts. LOL

Big Hug

Cya in Miami

Ron C

:1orglaugh Laughing so hard!!!!! Ouch! :1orglaugh

So are you :pimp :pimp

:1orglaugh I'll be dishing out spankings by the splash bar!

See you soon! :upsidedow

Someone has to make you smile Aly.


KB is off making TV history, and your employer is busy sending your to the wolves.

I figured it was time to step up , give comic relief and float an idea out there all in one post.

the decision is already made so good luck with it... i always liked the 2 shows separate. they are VERY different in focus & activity. the purpose is networking right? there are no advantages to adding fans & surfers to that equation. :2 cents:



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Does this mean I have to be around and party with the general public? :Oh crap

i think it's unfortunate they are having both shows together, not to mention CES is in town the same week

Vegas is now the last place i will want to be in early January...

they really need to move the Detroit auto show there the same week for the grand slam of madness... crazy

I completely agree. We're making efforts to keep them out of the Internext show floor... but they will be wandering around the rest of the venue.

Today's Deep Thought: Strictly by design, Summer Internext now has fewer fans & surfers wandering around than ever... and Winter has more... hmmmmm.

Any chance for a trifecta super pass.....

Combo of all shows.....Internext, AEE & AVN Awards?

Very valid point!

A few observations...

I've been to both shows. AEE is the much bigger production. At a small fraction of the ticket price (I think I paid $40 for the last AEE that I attended, and $150 for Internext), AEE way outdraws InterNext in number of attendees.

IMHO you can conduct the same amount of business on both floors.

While the surfers ogle the multitude of models, webmasters can meet one-on-one with the players hosting the AEE booths, and vice versa.

Now consider this, it is far cheaper for AVN to book overlapping show halls and cut an even better deal with the Venetian for rooms for one concentrated period (after playing their "we'll switch to the Manadalay Bay" card from last year), than it would cost to run the shows consecutively - so therefore it's a win-win proposition...for AVN...although NOT necessarily so for the Exhibitors of either segment of the adult industry.

If you accept the premise that the surfers/public could give a shit about meeting with company honchos, then it is easy to see that both shows could be easily combined which could benefit both the video and internet businesses (and lower ticket prices to InterNext while exposing the web businesses to more surfers).

When has it ever hurt a web business to have more surfers come into contact with your business? Likewise, how does it hurt either the predominantly web or video companies from having an opportunity to learn more about one another?

My proposal...Merge the two shows. Hire eye candy to keep the surfers occupied and have plenty of biz cards printed for your marketing/biz people to interact and/or make strategic contacts with other marketing/biz people. A hospitality suite in the same hotel where all the action is would be a good idea as well.

This isn't rocket surgery...

My :2 cents:,

ADG Webmaster

In case this part has been missed - part of the CES convention/show will also be at the Sands Expo - they also run at the convention center but a huge slice of the exhibitions will be located at the same place as us - so if you are really planning on attending - I would make sure that you already have rooms - as the CES will eat a shitload of hotel rooms and from what ive already seen hotels are very aware of the 3 shows at the same time and prices have skyrocketed at all hotels.

Not if you use the right people.

LOL - or gamble like a fiend for the last few years and just call up for a comp :)

Don't do that I need something to attend now that they made vegas an even bigger madhouse.

Totally off-topic.. but do you have a mp3 version of the 2 CDs?

If yes, msg me on icq!

As I said before, CES being at the same time will be the biggest problem IMHO :(

holy shit! fucking hilarious