BEWARE - False designer, flat out scammer, content stealer - GoFuckYourself.com

tranza · 08-01-2005, 08:29 AM

About a month and a half ago, Michel Kuik, aka SirTreX, started a thread looking for some work to build his portfolio. Here is the thread:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=480814

So I ordered a paysite from him, and he gave me a nice price. I sent him half of the total upfront.

Since then he basically only did the logo of the site (which sucked btw), nothing more. Now he doesn't reply to any of the e-mails I send him, last time I've heard from him was July 16.

Ok, so I gave up, I don't think I'm ever going to see my design done, or my money (I already asked for a refund). Apart from telling the guys from Paypal what a scammer he is I thought I should warn all of you also.

You guys can see that he uses stolen content from Light Speed and Melissa Midwest, this is a sample of his work: http://www.freshadultdesign.com/paysite/sample3/

The link to this sample is on his portfolio page: http://www.freshadultdesign.com/?p=portfolio

I know I can't do anything, but if Steve from LS or the guys from Melissa Cash want to talk to his server, please, be my guest.

MickeyG · 08-01-2005, 08:33 AM

i hate designers who scam people

DamageX · 08-01-2005, 08:33 AM

No offense, but did you see the quality of his work before ordering? Did you notice that he was using stolen content in his designs? And you went ahead with the order anyway?

tranza · 08-01-2005, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

No offense, but did you see the quality of his work before ordering? Did you notice that he was using stolen content in his designs? And you went ahead with the order anyway?

He was looking to BUILD his portfolio. I don't think his site was even up. I didn't see any stolen content then.

DamageX · 08-01-2005, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

He was looking to BUILD his portfolio. I don't think his site was even up. I didn't see any stolen content then.

He posted links in that thread...

tranza · 08-01-2005, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

He posted links in that thread...

Did you notice that NOBODY said that he was using stolen content back then?

Do you think ALL OF US who replied didn't see it, and today EVERYBODY who posted on that thread spoted that?

He simply wasn't using that content back then. The page that's up right now is not the page he showed us. Probably he stole someones DESIGN back then to show us a better work that wasn't his.

DamageX · 08-01-2005, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Did you notice that NOBODY said that he was using stolen content back then?

Do you think ALL OF US who replied didn't see it, and today EVERYBODY who posted on that thread spoted that?

He simply wasn't using that content back then. The page that's up right now is not the page he showed us. Probably he stole someones DESIGN back then to show us a better work that wasn't his.

You're right, I guess... Sorry to hear you got scammed, sucks when that happens...

chadglni · 08-01-2005, 08:58 AM

He's watching.

zvik · 08-01-2005, 09:02 AM

I get Forbidden access on these url's...anyway that's a shame

tranza · 08-01-2005, 09:08 AM

I would like to thank thinkx, the owner of Dutch Teen Cash for helping me out.

He offered to CALL the designer, since they are both dutch, and he was able to sort this things out. The designer/scammer is going to refund me in a week. And he's taken all of his sites down.

I would like to thank thinkx again for doing this, he didn't have to and I hadn't even asked him but he showed to be a great guy and offered to do this.

Dutch Teen Cash rocks!

DutchTeenCash · 08-01-2005, 09:15 AM

*blush*

Lets pray this guy really refunds if not just hit me up again ill make sure he does

digifan · 08-01-2005, 09:48 AM

This thread deserves a bump.

CybermedAndy · 08-01-2005, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by digifan

This thread deserves a bump.

I agree

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Nightwind · 08-01-2005, 09:54 AM

thinx teh hero.

Dalai lama · 08-01-2005, 09:54 AM

All sites are offline or not working.

Kla wolven · 08-01-2005, 10:13 AM

That was cool thinkx... very nice move.... kwel

DamageX · 08-01-2005, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalai lama

All sites are offline or not working.

Read the thread before posting a reply.

alan-l · 08-01-2005, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx

*blush*

Lets pray this guy really refunds if not just hit me up again ill make sure he does

very nice move

alan-l · 08-01-2005, 11:56 AM

btw, Tranza, I don't know if you already have sites, but if this is your first, it's not a good idea to start with cheap offer designs, you'll get either scammed or get half-ass mediocre designs. If money is tight, just use Quashe, FDSign, Team31 or Mammy, they're very good and their prices are very fair. Furthermore, I consider them cheap for the quality they provide. In the short and long run, it's a win-win situation, 200 bucks you "save" in a design usually means you've lost 10 or 20x in sales.

Just my

Roald · 08-01-2005, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx

*blush*

Lets pray this guy really refunds if not just hit me up again ill make sure he does

shall I send some of my boys to take care of him

Sucks Tranza, hope you get your money back.

Thinx, can you contact me tomorow? thnx ;)))

Roald · 08-01-2005, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan-l

btw, Tranza, I don't know if you already have sites, but if this is your first, it's not a good idea to start with cheap offer designs, you'll get either scammed or get half-ass mediocre designs. If money is tight, just use Quashe, FDSign, Team31 or Mammy, they're very good and their prices are very fair. Furthermore, I consider them cheap for the quality they provide. In the short and long run, it's a win-win situation, 200 bucks you "save" in a design usually means you've lost 10 or 20x in sales.

Just my

Thnx man but I don't take any new orders atm, going exclusive on the 5th of september ;))

tranza · 08-01-2005, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan-l

btw, Tranza, I don't know if you already have sites, but if this is your first, it's not a good idea to start with cheap offer designs, you'll get either scammed or get half-ass mediocre designs. If money is tight, just use Quashe, FDSign, Team31 or Mammy, they're very good and their prices are very fair. Furthermore, I consider them cheap for the quality they provide. In the short and long run, it's a win-win situation, 200 bucks you "save" in a design usually means you've lost 10 or 20x in sales.

Just my

I already have some sites. This is my first paysite though.

The only reaon I hired this guy is that the designs he showed me were awesome. I´m prety sure he changed the links after.

If I had seen his REAL work I´d never hire him, once even I can do designs better than that.

Miguel T · 08-01-2005, 02:54 PM

No dignity!!!

V_RocKs · 08-01-2005, 02:59 PM

Looks like he took down his work...

08-01-2005, 08:29 AM	#1
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	BEWARE - False designer, flat out scammer, content stealer About a month and a half ago, Michel Kuik, aka SirTreX, started a thread looking for some work to build his portfolio. Here is the thread: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=480814 So I ordered a paysite from him, and he gave me a nice price. I sent him half of the total upfront. Since then he basically only did the logo of the site (which sucked btw), nothing more. Now he doesn't reply to any of the e-mails I send him, last time I've heard from him was July 16. Ok, so I gave up, I don't think I'm ever going to see my design done, or my money (I already asked for a refund). Apart from telling the guys from Paypal what a scammer he is I thought I should warn all of you also. You guys can see that he uses stolen content from Light Speed and Melissa Midwest, this is a sample of his work: http://www.freshadultdesign.com/paysite/sample3/ The link to this sample is on his portfolio page: http://www.freshadultdesign.com/?p=portfolio I know I can't do anything, but if Steve from LS or the guys from Melissa Cash want to talk to his server, please, be my guest. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

08-01-2005, 08:33 AM	#3
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	No offense, but did you see the quality of his work before ordering? Did you notice that he was using stolen content in his designs? And you went ahead with the order anyway? __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

08-01-2005, 08:58 AM	#8
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08-01-2005, 09:02 AM	#9
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08-01-2005, 09:08 AM	#10
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	I would like to thank thinkx, the owner of Dutch Teen Cash for helping me out. He offered to CALL the designer, since they are both dutch, and he was able to sort this things out. The designer/scammer is going to refund me in a week. And he's taken all of his sites down. I would like to thank thinkx again for doing this, he didn't have to and I hadn't even asked him but he showed to be a great guy and offered to do this. Dutch Teen Cash rocks! __________________ I'm just a newbie.

08-01-2005, 08:33 AM	#2
MickeyG Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 4,134	i hate designers who scam people

08-01-2005, 09:15 AM	#11
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08-01-2005, 09:48 AM	#12
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08-01-2005, 09:54 AM	#14
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08-01-2005, 10:13 AM	#16
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08-01-2005, 11:56 AM	#19
alan-l Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: look behind you Posts: 2,477	btw, Tranza, I don't know if you already have sites, but if this is your first, it's not a good idea to start with cheap offer designs, you'll get either scammed or get half-ass mediocre designs. If money is tight, just use Quashe, FDSign, Team31 or Mammy, they're very good and their prices are very fair. Furthermore, I consider them cheap for the quality they provide. In the short and long run, it's a win-win situation, 200 bucks you "save" in a design usually means you've lost 10 or 20x in sales. Just my

08-01-2005, 02:54 PM	#23
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08-01-2005, 02:59 PM	#24
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