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Old 02-01-2002, 11:42 AM   #1
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black history month...

Just wondering.. what's the significance of having a 'black history month' and not lets say a white history or chinese history etc.?
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Old 02-01-2002, 11:49 AM   #2
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Old 02-01-2002, 11:51 AM   #3
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Interesting that February is Black History month when February is the shortest month of the year.
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This going to be another monster thread? LOL.
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Old 02-01-2002, 01:24 PM   #5
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It's all part of the giant pollitically correct pile of shit we sometimes have to deal with. If you have black history month you are sensitive to african americans. If you have white history month you would be a racist. The other day I got in a big argument with someone because I said that this girl was a mexican and they told me that was a racist thing to say. I said " I'm from america and I'm an american if someone is from canada they are canadian if you are from mexico you are mexican. . . " but somehow it seems that mexican has become a a bad word.

Personally I am sick of all the african-american, asian-american ect namesakes. to me it is simple. If you were born in this country, or you came to this country and are now a citizen then you are an American, nothing more nothing less and you are afforded the rights and privilages of being an American, nothing more, nothing less. The more people insist on being called by a specific name, the more they insist on being set apart from the group.

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Old 02-01-2002, 01:40 PM   #7
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I'd say african americans deserve more then just a month. I mean, they were after all, taken from their homes on ships with a bunch of whitties to become slaves.. Hell, I think they should have 6 months dedicated to their history (which was fooked up so many years ago by the slave trade)...
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I'd say african americans deserve more then just a month. I mean, they were after all, taken from their homes on ships with a bunch of whitties to become slaves.. Hell, I think they should have 6 months dedicated to their history (which was fooked up so many years ago by the slave trade)...

Oh, and I don't think it has anything to do with being politicaly correct, you see, Asians and Mexicans weren't taken to the US agains their will, they came because they wanted a better life. Black folk would have probably started coming to the west sooner or later, but they were taken against their will, which means they deserve a little bit more then what they have.
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Black history month, Black college fund, Affirmative Action, Black Miss America pagent. Black Music Awards, Black Unions . Can you imagine if someone started a white only Miss America Pagent ?
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Every Day is white history
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Old 02-01-2002, 01:50 PM   #12
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Because White History month would be considered racist

let's not forget BET (Black Entertainment Television)

do you know the kind of shit we would catch if there was WET channel of course it would probably be a porn channel but still

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Old 02-01-2002, 01:55 PM   #13
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Actually, Black History month was created not just for the teaching of the history of black people but more for encouragement of black people & to change the 'negative black' perception in white people's minds (but it seems to only piss them off). They have been told that they were worthless since they came to this country so a month full of reprogramming those thoughts in the kids was, and still is, necessary. Without that you will continue to have an unbalanced amount of black people as compared to white people, fighting for low paying jobs.

Now, the need for this month isn't as necassary since you have so many prominent black people in America.

What's probobly needed more is Mexican American month. There are a lot of them here. Probobly more than white or black in some southwestern states! Unfortunately they are not working at a rate that matches their population growth rate. If you have never been to Mexico City, you would think that they all stand outside and wait for someone to pick them up to have them do yardwork. But you have plenty of incredible millionare businessmen in and from Mexico! The kids here need to see that and get a sense of self worth and encouragement from it.

Do you understand now?

It's not for show or bragging. There's a purpose behind it. But, if you look at it on the surface it would understandably make you mad. Just take heart in the fact that out of 414 pages in your average history book... 404 are for white history!
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but they were taken against their will, which means they deserve a little bit more then what they have.
You cant be serious.

You are exactly what is wrong with this society.

Fucking bleeding heart liberals hellbent on the nuetering and pussification of this country.

Nothing like white self loathing.
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Mexicans in the SouthWest is a piss poor example. Fucking 60% of them are illegal.

I cant wait till they finally crack down on the border jumpers.
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Old 02-01-2002, 01:59 PM   #16
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Black people are more racist on average than a white people.
For real.

If you are a white man and tell a joke including a black man you're a racist.

If you are a black man and tell a joke including a white man, nobody gives a shit.

Nearly the same thing with women. example:

You are a man and you don't open a door to a woman like you're 'supposed to'. You're a shauvinist -sp?

If you are a woman and you don't do dishes like you're 'supposed to' you're a modern woman.

I hate feminists, stupid people, they don't go for equal rights, they consider themselfs better.

I hate stupidity, and I hate people that lack perception.

No offense to anyone, these are my opinions. My opinions are allways right. (did I say that outloud?)

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Pussification? And I thought reification was a tough concept.

Probably even Derrida could not deconstruct that one....
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There a some reasons why February is called "Black History Month"...

Many of the historical, political & cultural events that have inspired change in America's way of thinking in regards to people of African or other black national heritage, have taken place in the month of February.
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take heart in the fact that out of 414 pages in your average history book... 404 are for white history!
How exactly do you write a history for a culture who up until 200 years ago had no written language and had lived the previous 30k years unchanged? Its impossible to document your history when you do not have one.

Euro history is much more vast due to diversity and the fact that we have been literate for over 2 thousand years. Our history fills volumes upon volumes.

To push aside a thousand years of history in a book to cover a brief period in time for African American history would be a crime.
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Teen GF, you are right. Those are some social problems that I don't understand.

If you've ever been to London you know that those trivial race issues are nonexistant. How did they do that I would like to know!?!

Fuck the social problems... All the stuff I was referring to in the other post is economics based. Self worth = drive = $$$

Race is irrelevent now-a-days. It's all about what shade of green you are!
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Black people are more racist on average than a white people.
For real.

Every whiny white liberal should be forced to spend a couple years in Detroit, where you will make up 2% of the population.

You will change your mind.

Make no bones about it, black people do not like you.
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[Labret] you should not be so mean...due to the economy there are alot of black folks in Detroit that have to get by on only one "40" a day...

and you are right TGP..they where taken from there homes by force...and we should make up for that...and send them back.
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You don't hear the Indians complaining!?
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American history in general is short...
Let's not forget that this continent is not that old...

The reason why so called "White" history is so vast compared to "black" history, is because there were more continents of "whites" than of "blacks" , also, many of the "black" countries lacked written language & their histories & traditions were an oral history passed down from generation to generation..

Over the course of a few years, these oral histories & traditions were forgotten due to the upset of their culture, politics, freedoms, & way of life...

Let's not get confused with black history month..
It only applies to african american history..
Certainly, there are many international historical events regarding africans & other black cultures, but these are not generally included due to black history month being an american tradition..

Black history month was created to remember events that have occured in the month of february that have changed the lives of the american people of african descent, & to pay respects to the people that have spoken to inspire those changes, as well as to educate others of the sacrifices that were made to succeed in causing these changes..
To make others aware of the struggles, so that we can grow as a people, as a nation, as a country, & to learn by mistakes..
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"You don't hear the Indians complaining!?"

They do not want to draw attention to themselves...as they are busy blowin shit up!
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I read an article the other day that said that many school districts nationwide were thinking about altering their history lesson plans to be more "inclussive" so that african american students would learn about the contributions of black people in american history and mexican american students would focus on the contributions of mexian people in history. . . this just pisses me off. We have a checkered past, sure, but let's just teach the facts. I don't see any need to make everyone feel good about themselves.

TopTGP, I agree with you that black people (most of them originally ) didn't come to this country of their own accord but were brought here as slaves. But the ones currently living here are here on their own free will. they, most likely, have a better life then they would living in some 3rd world poverty and AIDS infested country. they have every opportunity to make as much of themselves as anyone else.

I do think our government should do something for them though. They should offer to give them a free trace of their family roots, find out what country they come from originally and when thier ancestors were brought here and then offer to pay their way back if they would rather live there. I think most people would choose here.

again just my
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Labret, I have been to Detroit and I will say you are correct! (In Detroit that is.)

Here in NY, everybody is in the same situation and basically lives next to each other. And has no problem with each other for the most part. We are to busy worrying about ourselves to give a fuck!

When you go deep into any town that is all one race
you will have racism. White or Black. Chalk it up to ignorance

Suburban whites hate blacks. Italians hate Irish. Puerto Ricans hate Mexicans. Parisians hate Brits. Israeli's hate Palestinians.

Do you see the correlation. It's not just a racial thing... Everybody seems to have to hate someone different!

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being born outside the states and now living in south carolina. i will make a few comments.

1. to tophats comments. europeans(whites to you) werent the only people that brought africans to the colonies. if you did some research, you'd find out that the majority of africans were caught by other tribes and sold to the dutch, portuguese, etc.. merchants
also, your comment about asians never being taken against their will, what about the japanese relocation camps during wwii?

2. the racism here is pretty obvious here in columbia, sc. you may say its a redneck town or whatever. but, the university here has 25k students from around the us. all the fraternities are basically "whites only" or "blacks only". i grew up knowing only about 10 "black" friends, but i dont remember there being racial issues. in the states its weird. but, here in the columbia, you are either black and hang out with blacks only or you are black and hang out with only whites.

3. i think black americans lack nationalism. not from the states. but where they come from. i think it was stupid on their part to lump up a whole continent and partake it in their name "african american". if you called me a "european american", i'd look at you all funny. i dont have anything against the french or germans. but, if you tried to pass me off as being a frenchman or german, i might have to kick you in the nuts.
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What's probobly needed more is Mexican American month. There are a lot of them here. Probobly more than white or black in some southwestern states! Unfortunately they are not working at a rate that matches their population growth rate. If you have never been to Mexico City, you would think that they all stand outside and wait for someone to pick them up to have them do yardwork.

Um, sorry to burst your bubble but they do that in the states too.
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they, most likely, have a better life then they would living in some 3rd world poverty and AIDS infested country. they have every opportunity to make as much of themselves as anyone else.

C'mon, dont you know that the Motherland Africa is only in such poor shape due to greedy white colonialists raping and pillaging their land? Pushaw.

I think black people should be thanking us, if someone had not brought them here long ago, we would not have all those thing we love so much about american black culture.

I mean, where would Playa be without his main influence? I know I sure as fuck need my bling bling, my p-diddy, my 22 inch re-yims, and last but not least... god I love wiggers.
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Labret you are crazy! (I bet you are rollin on 20's)

Kimmy,

For me not to recognize that means it's either not being done right or we just don't recognize it as much up here. NY has a ton of Peurto Rican people as opposed to Mexicans like other states.
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I'm reminded of a few lines from a roger waters song:

"and the germans kill the jews and the jews kill the arabs and the arabs kill the hostages and that is the news. Is it any wonder that the monkey's confused?"
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if they want to have a month dedicated to black history, then they should be teaching the ENTIRE history. If they think its worth having a month dedicated to black history then its also worth pointing out how much of their shit is fucking up the country.
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"You don't hear the Indians complaining!?"

They do not want to draw attention to themselves...as they are busy blowin shit up!
i think he was talking about american indians you dumbshit
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I live pretty much next door to the Crow reservation...and I hear em complaining all the time...there just aren't as many of them, so it's not so loud.
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I live pretty much next door to the Crow reservation...and I hear em complaining all the time...there just aren't as many of them, so it's not so loud.
I'd rather hear them complain than celebrate a bullshit month.
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I'm reminded of a few lines from a roger waters song:

"and the germans kill the jews and the jews kill the arabs and the arabs kill the hostages and that is the news. Is it any wonder that the monkey's confused?"
hehe,waters is god
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I mean, where would Playa be without his main influence? I know I sure as fuck need my bling bling, my p-diddy, my 22 inch re-yims, and last but not least... god I love wiggers.
hey why bring me into this? did i say anything to you?
WTF is a wigger? i never even heard someone say that before other than reading it here,,

i from atlanta, and grew up in Georgia all my life,,
i can't help it to be what i am,,

i ain't even white,, so get your facts straight

you probably mad cuz your kids listen to rap music
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I'd rather hear them complain than celebrate a bullshit month.
My parents live between to reservations in the NW, and believe you me, you dont want to get caught on the res after dark.
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Old 02-01-2002, 03:43 PM   #45
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you probably mad cuz your kids listen to rap music
Kids? Fuck that. I would rather have cancer.

What is a wigger? Please cut the bullshit.

Its a "white ******"... ya know... like Eminem.

Perhaps I have you confused with another board wigger. My bad.
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Old 02-01-2002, 03:44 PM   #46
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I'd rather hear them complain than celebrate a bullshit month.
Oh, rest assured, they've got a month...it's just a quieter month.
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Old 02-01-2002, 04:02 PM   #47
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labret, sounds like you have alot of frustration because you are the minority in your city and you feel that you are treated unfairly,,,

now you know how it feels
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labret, sounds like you have alot of frustration because you are the minority in your city and you feel that you are treated unfairly,,,

now you know how it feels
blah blah blah

I am not treated unfairly. When did I say antything about being treated unfair? Fuck that, they want my white ass and and my tax dollars in their city. I live in one of the nicest neighborhoods here in Detroit, 50/50 racially (which is rare) and I live 3 blocks from the border of Detroit and Grosse Pointe (99% white). Despite what you may think, I have no problem with black people, I have a problem with fucking stupid black people... just as much as I have a problem with fucking stupid white people.

I just know what neighborhoods to go into, and which ones to avoid. Detroit isnt all like Beirut, just 80% of it.
How the fuck could I live in Detroit and hate black people? Thats like hating the French and moving to France.
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Old 02-01-2002, 04:32 PM   #49
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I am not treated unfairly. When did I say antything about being treated unfair?
Perhaps I have you confused with another board bigot. My bad
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Old 02-01-2002, 04:42 PM   #50
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threads like this save me so much time.
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