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new 2257 info maybe
I am being told that the DOJ is going to make the new regs effective ONLY for content shot after June 23rd 2005. Can anyone esle confirm this??
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that would be great news
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I cannot confirm it, but yes. I have heard the same thing.
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Errr.... didn't they already say that? I think it was DOJs reply to ambiguous definitions.
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YARGH! Heard the same. It would be better than me refried french glazed Orca entrails.
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I think it was an xbiz article. Can't find the link. I'm sure somebody can dig it up.
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Come on, somebody has got to have a link
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That would be good news! Getting rid of the secondary producer crap would be even better!
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Only problem i see with that is you still gotta produce docs to show it was shot before June 23 2005 or am i reading the post wrong? |
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that would be alot better!
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wow. that would make sense for them to guarantee convictions on stuff done after the new regs went into effect. could be them playing the safe game and guaranteeing them some convictions. i have no knowledge of this, just an opinion.
especially if they are intending to enforce the "letter of the law" instead of what is normally enforced when it goes to trial in a lot of situations, which is the "spirit of the law" if they really wanted to fuck with people, this would be a great foundation to lay . |
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One of those attorneys you always read about on AVN told me that the entire secondary producer issue will be thrown out all together.
Hey, that's just what he told me. Not saying it is going to happen.
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Yeap i agree a complete clusterfuck. I wish we could get some confirmation on this.......... |
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There was a recent article on avnonline.com discussing concessions by the DOJ; here is a link to the article in question.
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That would be great, until they find out, that can not fuck with as many people, and change their minds.
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And we were all told that everyone would be covered not just paided members.... |
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"Were plaintiffs to raise this issue in a legal filing," was the DOJ's response, "defendant would take the position that the quoted language refers to material created in the first instance after June 23, 2005, and not to pre-existing material that is assembled, manufactured, published, duplicated, copied, digitized, reissued, or disseminated after June 23, 2005."
So this means that if your content was produced before June 23rd 2005 the secondary producer requirements are not valid also?
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I think the translation into normalese is that it only applies to content produced (actually shot) after June 23, 2005 and NOT pre-existing content (shot before June 23rd) that is later published on the web or some other form.
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I haven't heard of that one yet. Thanks in advance for the links.
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I know this i was being sarcastic........ |
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![]() The FSC took the industry for one big ol' ride and came out happy at the end of that ride, how much do you think they earnt through them and their lackeys spreading fear across the industry? No law or regulation can realistically be back-dated, any attorney worth their salt will tell you that. The FSC attorneys however, didnt. Everyone who joined the FSC for 'protection' under the mis-information they spread across the industry was scammed, it really is as simple as that. Lets just hope there isnt a really serious threat to the industry anytime soon, a lot of people wont be trusting the FSC if there is. Of course, this is GFY so people can hardly manage to remember what happened yesterday so im sure when that time comes, the FSC will return here to fleece everyone again ![]() Regards, Lee |
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that's exactly the way i interpreted that government response - seems to be what they're saying, ONLY content shot AFTER June,23,2005 is subject to the new additions to 2257 - which is a huge deal - and for the people who scrambled and worked their asses off trying to get in compliance for ALL their content it has to be maddening - all that time and money spent trying to comply with the fucking goverment and then 'oh we didn't mean that - you really went to all that trouble? silly pornographers!'
if they do inspect you, you're still going to have to have some proof that content produced before June, 23, 2005 was indeed shot prior to that date. so the work some people to isn't worthless, they are now in good shape.
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