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baddog 07-26-2005 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverTab
There's a difference between opinion and facts....

saying that Canada is useless and is only here because US "allows it" to be... that's not an opinion! It's just false!.... saying that you like canada...or don't like canada, because it's cold, or because blabh blah.. that's an opinion...can't you see the difference?

Fuck, do you even understand the English language?

Canada is cold = fact
Canada is there because we allow them to be = opinion.
You are an idiot = fact
You are ugly = opinion

You see the difference?

sperbonzo 07-26-2005 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich


It's pretty fucking sad, ignorance is winning over common sense in the US media. It's not even close, it's an ass kicking. People can't tell the difference between opinion and misinformation anymore. They'd rather hear lies that back up their narrow points of view than the truth that doesn't.

C'mon Rich. Do you EVER read or research from sources that don't agree with your already established world view?

I seriously doubt it

GammaCash_Dom 07-26-2005 12:40 PM

That video is a grand slam of the ignorance level some people can reach. We shouldn't however put all american in the same basket....that would prove our ignorance....

It's sad that people with such attitude can talk like they want on big channels like FOX. I respect their freedom of speech but I have a hard time when ignorance is accepted on a large scale like that. Because an opinion based on low knowledge of facts is not the kind of info that should be on T.V..... :helpme

Sly 07-26-2005 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo
C'mon Rich. Do you EVER read or research from sources that don't agree with your already established world view?

I seriously doubt it

No. He just "taught" me a lesson in another thread with his vast knowledge when I was clearly being sarcastic. Rich doesn't debate or share information, he just posts here to piss with others that he finds to stupid to communicate with on an adult level. Those are basically his words from a thread a few weeks back, not mine.

Rich 07-26-2005 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo
If you can't see the statement "Canada is useless" as an opinion rather than a fact, then I don't know where to start with you.

If she said "Canada has a tropical climate" that would be false. To say that a country is "useless" is so obviously a statement of opinion that it's just silly to debate it.

How exactly is a country "useful" or "useless"?

Give me break SilverTab

As for her statement regarding Vietnam. That was a statement involving historical fact used in order to back up her opinion.

Have you ever debated ANYTHING?


She said Canada only exists because the US allows it to exists. That's not an opinion, and it's false.

Icon 07-26-2005 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=baddog] Canada is cold = fact [QUOTE]

this is true most of the time, but right now it is hot as balls in Toronto...... :winkwink:

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/wea...s/CAON0696.htm

~r.

baddog 07-26-2005 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo
Have you ever debated ANYTHING?

I think we both know the answer to that.

SilverTab 07-26-2005 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo
How exactly is a country "useful" or "useless"?


by providing your country with natrual ressources? by being your number 1 trading partner?? (that one's mentioned in the video)

baddog 07-26-2005 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Icon
this is true most of the time, but right now it is hot as balls in Toronto...... :winkwink:

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/wea...s/CAON0696.htm

~r.

Let's have this conversation in a couple months :)

Rich 07-26-2005 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo
C'mon Rich. Do you EVER read or research from sources that don't agree with your already established world view?

I seriously doubt it


What exactly do you think my world view is and what exactly do you think I read? The answer is yes, I read all kinds of publications.

Icon 07-26-2005 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Let's have this conversation in a couple months :)

No Can Do - I Hibernate! :1orglaugh


edit: hahahaha WOJ! :winkwink:

baddog 07-26-2005 12:49 PM

51 brains washed

sperbonzo 07-26-2005 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
What exactly do you think my world view is and what exactly do you think I read? The answer is yes, I read all kinds of publications.


If that is truly the case then I withdraw the comment. :)

baddog 07-26-2005 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Icon
No Can Do - I Hibernate! :1orglaugh


edit: hahahaha WOJ! :winkwink:


I don't blame you

GammaCash_Dom 07-26-2005 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Icon
No Can Do - I Hibernate! :1orglaugh


edit: hahahaha WOJ! :winkwink:

Hey WOJ :moon :winkwink:

Rich 07-26-2005 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly
No. He just "taught" me a lesson in another thread with his vast knowledge when I was clearly being sarcastic. Rich doesn't debate or share information, he just posts here to piss with others that he finds to stupid to communicate with on an adult level. Those are basically his words from a thread a few weeks back, not mine.


It didn't always used to be that way, but this board has really gone downhill with some of the clowns who flood the political threads with hateful nonsense. I'm working on beefing up my ignore list so I can focus more on people who prefer to discuss things intelligently. If you think I've never debated someone here clearly you've missed a lot of my threads.

BTW, was I correct or incorrect in what I assumed about you? Change those two things and you will start seeing the world in a much different light.

SilverTab 07-26-2005 01:00 PM

Anything can be turned into an opinion!....

According to you: Canada is cold - This is a fact...right

what if I live in North Pole or Greenland, and I say canada is warm?? oh wow! it becomes an opinion...
it's still not true that Canada is a warm Country....

now according to me: Canada is useful because it provides US with natural ressources...
So when Ann Coulter say that Canada is useless...sure it can be her opinion...still doesnt make it true...

That was my only point... You say it's her opinion?? ok sure i'll give you that....I still say it's false...and I still say that Ann Coulter is a dumb bitch...
Now you can keep arguing about if what she said was an opinion or whatever...I don't care..my only point was that, what she said was false...it can be easily proven that Canada is not useless...

sperbonzo 07-26-2005 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverTab
it can be easily proven that Canada is not useless...


Now HERE we finally agree. Canada has it's uses...

Labatts,
Strippers,
Pretty scenery while drving to Alaska







:winkwink:

WarChild 07-26-2005 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icon
Yeah, If they made a 'Dumb Bitch' commemorative coin her image would be on it. The $2 coin would have Carl Rove or Mike Harris :2 cents:

You honestly think Rove is dumb?

Doctor Dre 07-26-2005 01:03 PM

Welcome to a long time ago ... The girl is still a very fucking dumb bitch

SilverTab 07-26-2005 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo
Now HERE we finally agree. Canada has it's uses...

Labatts,
Strippers,
Pretty scenery while drving to Alaska


:winkwink:


LMAO! :thumbsup

Rich 07-26-2005 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo
If that is truly the case then I withdraw the comment. :)


For example I just put down the WSJ, to which I have a daily subscription. I also watch Fox News, but I'll admit that it's purely for it's comedic value. I don't have a preconceived view of everything, I don't have an ideology that forces me to tune out all other points of view, I take in all the information available to me and form an opinion. Sometimes those opinions change as new information becomes available. I'll listen to anything reasonable.

Radik 07-26-2005 01:14 PM

hah well he's sorta correct.. not alot of snow on the west coast tho.

X37375787 07-26-2005 01:16 PM

i like canada

Icon 07-26-2005 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
You honestly think Rove is dumb?


I guess in terms of being able to manipulate and subvert, he does have some skill. But his skills were never learned (sp) per se, in fact I'm pretty sure he wasn't able to finish college (yet he now lectures wtf?) disclaimer - degree does not = intelligence. He slanders and spreads lies. He has done some pretty unethical shit, if he was smart, he would be able to pull off the same shit without being sleazy. Just my opinion :2 cents:

u have any canditdates for the 'dumb bitch' commemorative coin? :winkwink:

yes i see it coming...

SilverTab 07-26-2005 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
Fuck, do you even understand the English language?

Canada is cold = fact

You see the difference?

sorry, I guess you should go back to basic reading comprehension, they teach that in 4th or 5th grade:
"Canada's average temperature is 14°C" is a fact
"Canada is cold" is an opinion (cold being relative here)

again:
"Canada's land acreage is 9 093 507km2" is a fact
"Canada is big" is an opinion

who's the idiot again?

GammaCash_Dom 07-26-2005 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverTab
sorry, I guess you should go back to basic reading comprehension, they teach that in 4th or 5th grade:
"Canada's average temperature is 14°C" is a fact
"Canada is cold" is an opinion (cold being relative here)

again:
"Canada's land acreage is 9 093 507km2" is a fact
"Canada is big" is an opinion

who's the idiot again?

I totally agree with your explanation of facts and opinions but when you say...
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverTab
"Canada is big" is an opinion

You are wrong because it is also a fact that Canada is big :upsidedow

SilverTab 07-26-2005 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braincash_Dom
I totally agree with your explanation of facts and opinions but when you say...


You are wrong because it is also a fact that Canada is big :upsidedow


...big is still relative...just like cold is....
let's just say that "canada is big" is an opinion that most people will agree with! ;)

SilverTab 07-26-2005 01:37 PM

ex: you can say:
Earth is big....
it's an opinion...earth is small compared to the sun or jupiter....

Earth's circumference 24,902 mi >> That's a fact...

Rich 07-26-2005 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braincash_Dom
I totally agree with your explanation of facts and opinions but when you say...


You are wrong because it is also a fact that Canada is big :upsidedow

No he's right, it's an opinion, one that most people share. Big is relative. Compared to Russia, Canada isn't big.

sherie 07-26-2005 01:37 PM

Bahhhh most Canadians are whiners and take everything so personally and apologize for everything.

Sorry if this offended anyone ;) lol

SilverTab 07-26-2005 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sherie
Bahhhh most Canadians are whiners and take everything so personally and apologize for everything.

Sorry if this offended anyone ;) lol


LOL nice one...(assuming you did it on purpose of course)

angelsofporn 07-26-2005 01:50 PM

amazing that thier are still people in adult that can give the right wing machine a good word. Slow learners i guess

BiggleJones 07-26-2005 01:54 PM

Hahaha...I sway much more to the Right, but that woman needs to be punched in the face.

GammaCash_Dom 07-26-2005 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverTab
...big is still relative...just like cold is....
let's just say that "canada is big" is an opinion that most people will agree with! ;)

You are right, I haven't thought about it that way :winkwink:

cheers!!

SilverTab 07-26-2005 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braincash_Dom
You are right, I haven't thought about it that way :winkwink:

cheers!!

hehe it's easy actually: Facts can be verified...
If you want to turn "Canada is big" into a fact you could say: "Canada is bigger than Brazil"...that would be a fact...

as to the current thread: "Canada is useless" well I guess I'll admit sperbonzo was right...it is her opinion...still it can be easily verified that canada isn't useless...(and again...it all depends what you mean by useless)

But considering Canada is US's top trading partner, it's like an affiliate program saying their number 1 affiliate is "useless"....kinda dumb...

anyway...time for a beer..canada may be useless to Coulter..we have good beers in here...

cambaby 07-26-2005 02:46 PM

http://www.atakra.com/pictures/ebayc...n_canuck03.jpg

baddog 07-26-2005 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverTab
So when Ann Coulter say that Canada is useless...sure it can be her opinion...still doesnt make it true...


See, you are learning English more and more, congrats.

No one suggested that opinions are facts, they are opinions. They may or may not be accurate.

baddog 07-26-2005 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo
Now HERE we finally agree. Canada has it's uses...

Labatts,
Strippers,
Pretty scenery while drving to Alaska


:winkwink:


and they build some of the finest dogsleds in North America.

baddog 07-26-2005 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverTab
..and I still say that Ann Coulter is a dumb bitch...


And that would be your opinion. While you may not like her, and her opinions may suck, I don't think you can say she is dumb, and stay within the realm of being factual.


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