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BiggleJones · 07-25-2005, 10:06 PM

100 W00t!

European Lee · 07-25-2005, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

I am not debating that he deserves is money, and I do commend him for his patience on this whole issue. why Lee isnt doing anything I feel is that he knows something that few on GFY dont - the adult world does not revolve around this board.

Someone can post something negative about you on this board, and if you dont respond to it, then chances are as Lee knows - it wont have an impact on your business as much as most of gfy'ers would like to think. I hate to make this wake up call, but many are either non industry people or those that are keyboard warriors that dont have an impact on the adult world as a whole - and surprisingly to some - many actually make a living and survive for years without even posting on GFY. I speak to hundreds of webmasters a month that never even heard of this board much less the drama that comes down here.

Lets face it - Lee's main source of income is from the gay community - few of which visit this board, many of whom dont really pay much attention to the drama on here.

If it is truly owed then I want to see Blue get their money - but sadly and honestly - it is not going to come from posting on one board that is viewed mostly by who dont have anything to do with the gay industry at all. So how is this going to bother? much less force lee to do anything about it?

I'd say that about summed the whole thing up perfectly Robert

People still dont seem to understand that though

Regards,

Lee

BlueDesignStudios · 07-25-2005, 10:14 PM

lee got another vote.,. or maybe it was another mistake.. who knows

so when can we stop all this drama & get the payment cleared up lee?

surely you must have something better to do with your life than carry on like an idiot generating new excuses of why you're not going to pay?

European Lee · 07-25-2005, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

lee got another vote.,. or maybe it was another mistake.. who knows

so when can we stop all this drama & get the payment cleared up lee?

surely you must have something better to do with your life than carry on like an idiot generating new excuses of why you're not going to pay?

Dude, this is GFY.

When are you going to understand that?

I only post here when i have nothing else to do, really, all this BS isnt doing anything to our business ventures, keep posting, im not the one wasting my time... You are

If you can point to a single thread or post i have started since being registered on GFY that didnt bait someone in to 'fake' drama or getting a rise out of someone, id love to see it.

Perhaps when you dont find such a thread, you'll begin to see the light

Again, it isnt ME wasting my time here.. Its YOU.

Regards,

Lee

BlueDesignStudios · 07-25-2005, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

Dude, this is GFY.

When are you going to understand that?

I only post here when i have nothing else to do, really, all this BS isnt doing anything to our business ventures, keep posting, im not the one wasting my time... You are

If you can point to a single thread or post i have started since being registered on GFY that didnt bait someone in to 'fake' drama or getting a rise out of someone, id love to see it.

Perhaps when you dont find such a thread, you'll begin to see the light

Again, it isnt ME wasting my time here.. Its YOU.

Regards,

Lee

Lets see...

You are posting while 90% of GFY agrees you're in the wrong.. I am posting and getting so many new clients out of this it's not funny. Well it kinda is actually.

But not paying a bill is a serious matter. I don't get why you just don't admit you're wrong (you seem to have managed this bit), pay the bill (to a charity cos I don't want your money) - and move on

brand0n · 07-25-2005, 10:22 PM

becouse lien cheating scammers dont pay debts.

European Lee · 07-25-2005, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

I am posting and getting so many new clients out of this it's not funny. Well it kinda is actually.

As the truth about this whole issue emerges....

I beleive when you started the initial threads however long ago it was, that was what i put it down to on Oprano, nice to see i was right

Regards,

Lee

European Lee · 07-25-2005, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

becouse lien cheating scammers dont pay debts.

http://www.hookedonphonics.com

Might be of some use to you bud

Hows your feonsay btw, still fucking pigs for fun?

Regards,

Lee

BlueDesignStudios · 07-25-2005, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

As the truth about this whole issue emerges....

I beleive when you started the initial threads however long ago it was, that was what i put it down to on Oprano, nice to see i was right

Regards,

Lee

Actually no Lee i'm not doing this for new business, the reason we're here is because you never paid your design bill

brand0n · 07-25-2005, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

http://www.hookedonphonics.com

Might be of some use to you bud

Hows your feonsay btw, still fucking pigs for fun?

Regards,

Lee

lol best you can do cocksucker?

pay your bills theif.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-25-2005, 10:35 PM

Unless you have a brother named Jeb who is the Governor of Florida that can pull out this landslide vote against you, I would say that it's time to pay up, and now, Lee.

Otherwise, you have zero credibility, and are of little use here at GFY...and if your employer is reading this, you are an embarrassment to them as well.

ADG Webmaster

BlueDesignStudios · 07-25-2005, 10:37 PM

Thanks to everyone who has voted - Even though Lee said yesterday that he would pay for the design based on the opinions of GFY, it seems he's going back on his word (again) - even when I'm offering to pay any money received to a charity, Lee still isn't interested in resolving the issue.

tical · 07-25-2005, 10:55 PM

Wow

Lee you're a piece of shit

European Lee · 07-25-2005, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Unless you have a brother named Jeb who is the Governor of Florida that can pull out this landslide vote against you, I would say that it's time to pay up, and now, Lee.

Otherwise, you have zero credibility, and are of little use here at GFY...and if your employer is reading this, you are an embarrassment to them as well.

ADG Webmaster

I dont have an employer, i am an employer

Regards,

Lee

BiggleJones · 07-25-2005, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

I dont have an employer, i am an employer

Regards,

Lee

You're not an employer...You're a faggot.

BlueDesignStudios · 07-25-2005, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tical

Wow

Lee you're a piece of shit

That's a neat little summary for those who don't have time to read all the shit that comes out of lee's mouth

RyuLion · 07-25-2005, 11:36 PM

This totally sucks..and I hope it brings more business to you Andrew..

BlueDesignStudios · 07-26-2005, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion

This totally sucks..and I hope it brings more business to you Andrew..

At least that's one positive to come out of this.

Though Lee should still pay for the design - I have nothing to gain from this since I'm putting it to charity - it's a matter of principle

aflex · 07-26-2005, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

I dont have an employer, i am an employer

Regards,

Lee

don't you work for your boyfriend? i could have sworn you were his bottom bitch turned employee.

nico-t · 07-26-2005, 03:51 AM

why are u giving it to charity? If i did a job for someone i would want the damn cash myself!

BlueDesignStudios · 07-26-2005, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t

why are u giving it to charity? If i did a job for someone i would want the damn cash myself!

Lee has caused some much drama out of this, I'd like to see something good come from the situation - donating it to charity seems like the right thing to do

V_RocKs · 07-26-2005, 03:52 AM

Wow.. DOUBLE WOW!!

I expected the votes to be a little closer than that... DAMN!

BlueDesignStudios · 07-26-2005, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Wow.. DOUBLE WOW!!

I expected the votes to be a little closer than that... DAMN!

keep in mind that 3 of lee's votes were done by mistake.

swedguy · 07-26-2005, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

Andrew, seriously, where did that layout come from?

How comes i have never seen it until today?

Regards,

Lee

$ telnet www.bluedesignstudios.com 80
Trying 66.154.73.50...
Connected to bluedesignstudios.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD /hp/lee/european_webmasters/3/main.html HTTP/1.1
Host: www.bluedesignstudios.com

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:09:34 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) PHP/4.3.9
Last-Modified: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:55:46 GMT
ETag: "3ec2b3-15b6-40c49002"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 5558
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-26-2005, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

I dont have an employer, i am an employer

Regards,

Lee

I checked and saw Gary Alan listed as President, and Lee Windsor as COO. In any case, this makes your lack of business ethics even more appalling.

A wise business person would have paid up and used the design or written off the loss a long time ago. Instead you have brought shame and ridicule upon yourself and your business.

ADG Webmaster

clickhappy · 07-26-2005, 06:46 AM

What's Gary-Alan say about all of this? Its his employee/partner/whatever involved, he must have a statement on this.

Kevin2 · 07-26-2005, 07:20 AM

Don't worry about it Andrew what goes around comes around and BS artist Lee will get his day.

Juicy D. Links · 07-26-2005, 07:44 AM

mad views on this thread

graphicsbytia · 07-26-2005, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy

What's Gary-Alan say about all of this? Its his employee/partner/whatever involved, he must have a statement on this.

Good question

Sawblade2dahead · 07-26-2005, 01:59 PM

European Lee Got Owned

TheLegacy · 07-26-2005, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy

What's Gary-Alan say about all of this? Its his employee/partner/whatever involved, he must have a statement on this.

I know GaryAlan very well - he trusts Lee with a great deal on their company and would likely repeat what was said here before. Its GFY, has no impact whatsoever on the gay industry and threads like this are never taken seriously.

How many of you are gay who are going to stop working with GaryAlan or Lee over this?? not too many.. more like NONE. Niether one of them care what happens on GFY since the board is not taken seriously within the adult community but instead is looked at as a tabloid in the supermarket. As much as I would like to see this resolved, hasnt anyone caught onto the idea that GFY is not the center of the adult business world nor is it taken seriously? Posting shit here results threatening and "owning" someone gets at best a giggle when told where it was found.

In short, GaryAlan is not caring at all what is written on GFY, never had, never will - its not affecting his clients or business in the least. Unless everyone here is planning on posting on gay boards and the more serious webmaster boards out there- this is a lost cause.

BitAudioVideo · 07-26-2005, 02:24 PM

send him to collections and drop it, you could have made $550 100 times while wasting your time with this asshat

alan-l · 07-26-2005, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedguy

$ telnet www.bluedesignstudios.com 80
Trying 66.154.73.50...
Connected to bluedesignstudios.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD /hp/lee/european_webmasters/3/main.html HTTP/1.1
Host: www.bluedesignstudios.com

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:09:34 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) PHP/4.3.9
Last-Modified: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:55:46 GMT
ETag: "3ec2b3-15b6-40c49002"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 5558
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html

telnetowned?

Jace · 07-26-2005, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

hasnt anyone caught onto the idea that GFY is not the center of the adult business world nor is it taken seriously? Posting shit here results threatening and "owning" someone gets at best a giggle when told where it was found

at least someone has a little bit of intelligence in this thread

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jace

www.ecstasyglass.com

2257-Ben · 07-27-2005, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

Lee has repeatedly said that he would pay his design bill based on the comments and opinions of GFY. This is a shameful way to do business and sets a dangerous precedent for designers, where clients can avoid paying design bills for two years and then only pay based on the opinion of those on GFY.

So here it is folks - the vote that Lee wanted so badly.

You are voting for the side you believe IS IN THE RIGHT:

European Lee: Ordered a design two years ago, said they were PERFECT & DONE, then never paid, claims he would pay the invoice, then he said he wouldn't, then a hurricane occurred preventing Lee from responding to my emails for 1+ year. Now he claims he is unhappy with the design itself (though his email history from last year indicates he was VERY HAPPY with the design). Lee has publicly stated he will pay up based on the opinions of GFY, and claims he shouldn't have to pay for a design he doesn't like (even if it's taken him two years to reach that conclusion)

BlueDesignStudios: Designed Lee's site to meet all of lee's specifications and criteria, lee was admittedly very happy with the design at the time. Since then, have spent much time chasing lee up for payment for the design, putting up with a range of new excuses for why he will or won't pay. Have never received a penny for the site that met all of lee's criteria.

Ok and here is what's up for grabs:

European Lee wins: lee does not have to pay for the design, and the subject will not be raised again (unless lee brings it up again)

Blue Design Studios wins: We don't want lee's money, it's a matter of principle. We request that payment for the design goes to our designated charity, Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).

We are hopeful that some good will come out of this situation. Lee is without a doubt the lowest form of life we have encountered in the adult industry.

Those designs look damn nice to me..

BlueDesignStudios · 07-29-2005, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2257-Ben

Those designs look damn nice to me..

thanks, Lee said he liked them too & that they were perfect

but for some reason a couple of years later when i'm following him up for payment he's had a change of heart

BlueDesignStudios · 08-01-2005, 03:51 PM

don't you want to vote for yourself lee? or do you accept you fucked up on this one?

BlueDesignStudios · 08-01-2005, 05:59 PM

Bump for lee

pornpf69 · 08-01-2005, 06:12 PM

dont we all love some drrama?

BlueDesignStudios · 08-01-2005, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornpf69

dont we all love some drrama?

apparently not lee anymore - he's been rather quite as the poll has progressed.. you only have to take a quick glance at it to see why!

dial · 05-05-2006, 12:39 PM

bump for lee

Juicy D. Links · 05-05-2006, 12:41 PM

Pay them Lee you Scumbag and Thief

BoyAlley · 05-05-2006, 01:04 PM

Juicy D. Links · 05-05-2006, 01:07 PM

hallelujah brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

praise the lord!!!!!!!!

Bump for the cause!!!!!!!!!!!

V_RocKs · 05-05-2006, 01:12 PM

I like drama!

Mr Pheer · 05-05-2006, 02:31 PM

wtf?????

Zester · 05-05-2006, 03:24 PM

this one needs to be pinned

RyuLion · 05-05-2006, 03:44 PM

It's not about taking sides anymore, its about a reality..

Zester · 05-05-2006, 04:02 PM

it's about lee who is a dumbass

woj · 05-05-2006, 04:05 PM

150.........

View Poll Results: Who is in the right, European Lee or Blue Design Studios?
European Lee	15	7.04%
Blue Design Studios	198	92.96%
Voters: 213. You may not vote on this poll

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