Originally Posted by TheLegacy

I am not debating that he deserves is money, and I do commend him for his patience on this whole issue. why Lee isnt doing anything I feel is that he knows something that few on GFY dont - the adult world does not revolve around this board.

Someone can post something negative about you on this board, and if you dont respond to it, then chances are as Lee knows - it wont have an impact on your business as much as most of gfy'ers would like to think. I hate to make this wake up call, but many are either non industry people or those that are keyboard warriors that dont have an impact on the adult world as a whole - and surprisingly to some - many actually make a living and survive for years without even posting on GFY. I speak to hundreds of webmasters a month that never even heard of this board much less the drama that comes down here.

Lets face it - Lee's main source of income is from the gay community - few of which visit this board, many of whom dont really pay much attention to the drama on here.

If it is truly owed then I want to see Blue get their money - but sadly and honestly - it is not going to come from posting on one board that is viewed mostly by who dont have anything to do with the gay industry at all. So how is this going to bother? much less force lee to do anything about it?

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

lee got another vote.,. or maybe it was another mistake.. who knows

so when can we stop all this drama & get the payment cleared up lee?

surely you must have something better to do with your life than carry on like an idiot generating new excuses of why you're not going to pay?

Originally Posted by European Lee

Dude, this is GFY.

When are you going to understand that? :1orglaugh

I only post here when i have nothing else to do, really, all this BS isnt doing anything to our business ventures, keep posting, im not the one wasting my time... You are :1orglaugh

If you can point to a single thread or post i have started since being registered on GFY that didnt bait someone in to 'fake' drama or getting a rise out of someone, id love to see it.

Perhaps when you dont find such a thread, you'll begin to see the light :1orglaugh

Again, it isnt ME wasting my time here.. Its YOU.

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

I am posting and getting so many new clients out of this it's not funny. Well it kinda is actually.

Originally Posted by brand0n

becouse lien cheating scammers dont pay debts.

Originally Posted by European Lee

As the truth about this whole issue emerges....

I beleive when you started the initial threads however long ago it was, that was what i put it down to on Oprano, nice to see i was right :thumbsup

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by European Lee

http://www.hookedonphonics.com

Might be of some use to you bud :winkwink:

Hows your feonsay btw, still fucking pigs for fun?

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Unless you have a brother named Jeb who is the Governor of Florida that can pull out this landslide vote against you, I would say that it's time to pay up, and now, Lee.

Otherwise, you have zero credibility, and are of little use here at GFY...and if your employer is reading this, you are an embarrassment to them as well.

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Originally Posted by European Lee

I dont have an employer, i am an employer :winkwink:

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by tical

Wow

Lee you're a piece of shit

Originally Posted by RyuLion

This totally sucks..and I hope it brings more business to you Andrew..

Originally Posted by European Lee

I dont have an employer, i am an employer :winkwink:

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by nico-t

why are u giving it to charity? If i did a job for someone i would want the damn cash myself!

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Wow.. DOUBLE WOW!!

I expected the votes to be a little closer than that... DAMN!

Originally Posted by European Lee

Andrew, seriously, where did that layout come from?

How comes i have never seen it until today?

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by European Lee

I dont have an employer, i am an employer :winkwink:

Regards,

Lee

Originally Posted by clickhappy

What's Gary-Alan say about all of this? Its his employee/partner/whatever involved, he must have a statement on this.

Originally Posted by clickhappy

What's Gary-Alan say about all of this? Its his employee/partner/whatever involved, he must have a statement on this.

Originally Posted by swedguy

$ telnet www.bluedesignstudios.com 80
Trying 66.154.73.50...
Connected to bluedesignstudios.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD /hp/lee/european_webmasters/3/main.html HTTP/1.1
Host: www.bluedesignstudios.com

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:09:34 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) PHP/4.3.9
Last-Modified: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:55:46 GMT
ETag: "3ec2b3-15b6-40c49002"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 5558
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

hasnt anyone caught onto the idea that GFY is not the center of the adult business world nor is it taken seriously? Posting shit here results threatening and "owning" someone gets at best a giggle when told where it was found

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

Lee has repeatedly said that he would pay his design bill based on the comments and opinions of GFY. This is a shameful way to do business and sets a dangerous precedent for designers, where clients can avoid paying design bills for two years and then only pay based on the opinion of those on GFY.

So here it is folks - the vote that Lee wanted so badly.

You are voting for the side you believe IS IN THE RIGHT:

European Lee: Ordered a design two years ago, said they were PERFECT & DONE, then never paid, claims he would pay the invoice, then he said he wouldn't, then a hurricane occurred preventing Lee from responding to my emails for 1+ year. Now he claims he is unhappy with the design itself (though his email history from last year indicates he was VERY HAPPY with the design). Lee has publicly stated he will pay up based on the opinions of GFY, and claims he shouldn't have to pay for a design he doesn't like (even if it's taken him two years to reach that conclusion)

BlueDesignStudios: Designed Lee's site to meet all of lee's specifications and criteria, lee was admittedly very happy with the design at the time. Since then, have spent much time chasing lee up for payment for the design, putting up with a range of new excuses for why he will or won't pay. Have never received a penny for the site that met all of lee's criteria.

Ok and here is what's up for grabs:

European Lee wins: lee does not have to pay for the design, and the subject will not be raised again (unless lee brings it up again)

Blue Design Studios wins: We don't want lee's money, it's a matter of principle. We request that payment for the design goes to our designated charity, Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).

We are hopeful that some good will come out of this situation. Lee is without a doubt the lowest form of life we have encountered in the adult industry.

Originally Posted by 2257-Ben

Those designs look damn nice to me..

Originally Posted by pornpf69

dont we all love some drrama?