BREAKING NEWS: Blue Design Studios Updates Their Portfolio - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

European Lee · 07-24-2005, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

The drama after the fact is really too bad. Kiss and make up!

Agreed.

It really is to bad, for Andrew, perhaps he should have thought about the repercussions of his actions prior to posting initially

Regards,

Lee

BlueDesignStudios · 07-24-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

Agreed.

It really is to bad, for Andrew, perhaps he should have thought about the repercussions of his actions prior to posting initially

Regards,

Lee

what did i post?

BlueDesignStudios · 07-24-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Lee may have been trying to communicate

No, Lee wasn't communicating, he was ignoring all my emails and icq's regarding the design

European Lee · 07-24-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

No, Lee wasn't communicating, he was ignoring all my emails and icq's regarding the design

Hang on, if that was the case, where did you get that list of changes from?

Please think of a lie and stick to it, its not hard to do

Regards,

Lee

Relish XXX · 07-24-2005, 03:37 PM

I think it has done the world of good for BDS.There portfolio is now being viewing by hundreds of potential customers.

Can you also please note Lee that I dont appreciate you quoting me out of context.

BlueDesignStudios · 07-24-2005, 03:37 PM

what are these reprecussions you speak of? All I'm getting is support & praise from people - your attempt to run a smear campaign has backfired because each time you come up with a new excuse not to pay it just doesn't hold water

at least choose one excuse and stick with that

BlueDesignStudios · 07-24-2005, 03:53 PM

oh one more thing lee.. in future please leave the 'blue design studios portfolio update' threads to the experts.

graphicsbytia · 07-24-2005, 04:04 PM

Andrew, I really like your work.. but I like the way you've handled this situation even more

Lee is a nightmare customer, we all have them.. they give you direction (15 re-dos is a lot though.. lol) .. then they complain that they don't like it.. go figure

Are you open to doing some outsourcing work for me? I am too busy with content to do any designing anymore.. besides.. my designing skills aren't as good as I'd like.. doesn't stop people from coming to me though.. lol

hit me up if you're interested

Relish XXX · 07-24-2005, 04:08 PM

Andrew, if it wasnt for the fact that I am partners with Quashe we would use you for work.

Personally I am siding with you.

BlueDesignStudios · 07-24-2005, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

Hang on, if that was the case, where did you get that list of changes from?

Please think of a lie and stick to it, its not hard to do

Regards,

Lee

You emailed me those changes in roughly Feb 04, and since then I have spent over one year trying to contact you back - I can count roughly 60 un-answered emails and 20+ unanswered ICQ msgs

Am I telling the truth or are you lying?

BlueDesignStudios · 07-24-2005, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Andrew, if it wasnt for the fact that I am partners with Quashe we would use you for work.

Personally I am siding with you.

Thanks, I appreciate it

Though, any designer who sides with Lee is basically saying it's ok for clients to bring their unpaid projects to GFY 2 years later & decide to pay based on a few out of context comments from people

I don't know anyone who does business like this, it's so unprofessional that I can't believe there are still such people out there.

I thought Lee was a nice guy initially - boy did I make a bad judgement on his character!

BlueDesignStudios · 07-24-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by graphicsbytia

Andrew, I really like your work.. but I like the way you've handled this situation even more

Lee is a nightmare customer, we all have them.. they give you direction (15 re-dos is a lot though.. lol) .. then they complain that they don't like it.. go figure

Are you open to doing some outsourcing work for me? I am too busy with content to do any designing anymore.. besides.. my designing skills aren't as good as I'd like.. doesn't stop people from coming to me though.. lol

hit me up if you're interested

Thanks Tia - Lee is definitely the customer from hell - never paid a cent, doesn't respond to emails or icq's - I dont' get how you can complain if you never paid for a design!!

I like your work, whenever we're too busy and need to turn away clients I will be sure to send them your way

graphicsbytia · 07-24-2005, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

Thanks Tia - Lee is definitely the customer from hell - never paid a cent, doesn't respond to emails or icq's - I dont' get how you can complain if you never paid for a design!!

I like your work, whenever we're too busy and need to turn away clients I will be sure to send them your way

Nooo!... don't send them to me.. I want to send YOU some..I'm way too busy to be designing

BlueDesignStudios · 07-24-2005, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by graphicsbytia

Nooo!... don't send them to me.. I want to send YOU some..I'm way too busy to be designing

oh LOL my bad.. that is a very generous offer, if you do get too busy you can send them our way, and we will do likewise

BlueDesignStudios · 07-24-2005, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

There is a professional trade organization in the graphic design field called AIGA (The American Institute of Graphic Artists), which represents over 15,000 accredited professional graphic designers. The "total bullshit" (as you call it) position that I set forth is based upon AIGA's fair practice guidelines.

If you would like to learn about AIGA and fair design practices, their web site is www.AIGA.org - I have linked a section titled:
A Client's Guide to Design:
How to get the most out of the process, which some of you may find beneficial to understand how the graphic design industry actually works (as opposed to how you wish it would work).

Several people obviously have a misconception about design services. In a perfect world, every client is 100% satisfied with every design. In the end, that doesn't always happen. The client is still liable for payment (that's why many professional firms charge 50% upfront to new clients).

I'm not interested in continuing to argue with anyone, especially if they refuse to take the time to understand how the design industry actually operates.

Since I don't see either party changing their position, I can only conclude that:

BDS did the work, and did not intend to rip-off European Webmasters (which in another point I made, still only exists in name...why is that?).

European Webmasters is guilty of contracting for a service which was performed, and refuses to pay for it.

If anyone has been ripped off, it's BDS.

ADG Webmaster

Fantastic post - you are spot on with this

bhutocracy · 07-24-2005, 05:00 PM

I think it's not bad at all. Don't forget it's not filled out with all the info.. if it had proper banners and all the content in it would look a lot more finished.. it's just a template atm and I don't mind it... also that it's not a paysite so of course it's going to lack the wow factor of a lot of their portfolio...

Jace · 07-25-2005, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

I just found some of the 'revisions' too here ya go..

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/hp/.../main_eng.html

for some reason the menu on this one looks like it should be on a page dedicated to pirates...the map and font remind me of pirates..no idea why..maybe chio the pirate designed it

jonesy · 07-25-2005, 01:35 AM

LEE

BlueDesignStudios · 07-25-2005, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

for some reason the menu on this one looks like it should be on a page dedicated to pirates...the map and font remind me of pirates..no idea why..maybe chio the pirate designed it

LOL it's what Lee asked for.. and he was very happy with it, he told us at the time we did a great job on the site

funny when it comes to paying the bill for the site, he'll go back on his word..

European Lee · 07-25-2005, 11:13 PM

Bump

Regards,

Lee

BlueDesignStudios · 07-25-2005, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

Bump

Regards,

Lee

you really shouldn't start threads with misleading titles

it should have been called 'my new excuse of why I don't want to pay up'

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Relish XXX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: www.adultlabel.com Posts: 4,904	I think it has done the world of good for BDS.There portfolio is now being viewing by hundreds of potential customers. Can you also please note Lee that I dont appreciate you quoting me out of context. __________________

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BlueDesignStudios Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 9,492	what are these reprecussions you speak of? All I'm getting is support & praise from people - your attempt to run a smear campaign has backfired because each time you come up with a new excuse not to pay it just doesn't hold water at least choose one excuse and stick with that __________________ Blue Design Studios - Adult Design Specialists! Email me for a free quote: [email protected]

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07-24-2005, 04:04 PM	#108
graphicsbytia Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,618	Andrew, I really like your work.. but I like the way you've handled this situation even more Lee is a nightmare customer, we all have them.. they give you direction (15 re-dos is a lot though.. lol) .. then they complain that they don't like it.. go figure Are you open to doing some outsourcing work for me? I am too busy with content to do any designing anymore.. besides.. my designing skills aren't as good as I'd like.. doesn't stop people from coming to me though.. lol hit me up if you're interested

07-24-2005, 05:00 PM	#116
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	I think it's not bad at all. Don't forget it's not filled out with all the info.. if it had proper banners and all the content in it would look a lot more finished.. it's just a template atm and I don't mind it... also that it's not a paysite so of course it's going to lack the wow factor of a lot of their portfolio...

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