NATS alternatives........? - GoFuckYourself.com

Damian_Maxcash · 07-23-2005, 08:24 AM

I need a similar prog to start me off - but I dont want to tye to them at the moment

I will go to NATS eventually, but I need something more realistic to start of.

All sugestions welcome

Thanks

ry0t · 07-23-2005, 08:27 AM

There's nothing similar to NATS for low cost. You just will not find it.

GotGauge · 07-23-2005, 08:27 AM

Nothing....

Most use ccbill to get started, then go to NATS.

TMM_John · 07-23-2005, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

I need a similar prog to start me off - but I dont want to tye to them at the moment

I will go to NATS eventually, but I need something more realistic to start of.

All sugestions welcome

Thanks

More realistic in what way?

TDF · 07-23-2005, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ry0t

There's nothing similar to NATS for low cost. You just will not find it.

ningo.All other solutions are much more expensive

candyflip · 07-23-2005, 08:30 AM

Monolith was looking good for a while, but I haven't heard anything of it lately.

http://speira.com/

Alky · 07-23-2005, 08:32 AM

i think NATS charges an arm and a leg for their monthly stuff....

but on the same token you can buy the program outright so its a bad argument

TMM_John · 07-23-2005, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Alky

i think NATS charges an arm and a leg for their monthly stuff....

but on the same token you can buy the program outright so its a bad argument

Our lease rate varies from $150 to $650 per month depending on # of sites and sales volume. Really not an arm and a leg in my opinion. Let's look at billing for instance.

Say you do 5 sales per day with 2.5 months average retention at $24.95/mo.

Thats 150 sales per month and 225 rebills per month @ 2.5 months average. Thats 375 transactions per month or $9375. At 15% processing fee thats $1406.25 to the biller not counting chargeback/credit fees, reserves, etc. Our fee assuming this is one site would be $150 per month even at double the # of sales (which would be double the billing cost however).

Our rates are not high, they are a cost of doing business if you wish to compete, give your affiliates quality tools, and make your program stand out from the crowd.

Alky · 07-23-2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

Our lease rate varies from $150 to $650 per month depending on # of sites and sales volume. Really not an arm and a leg in my opinion. Let's look at billing for instance.

Say you do 5 sales per day with 2.5 months average retention at $24.95/mo.

Thats 150 sales per month and 225 rebills per month @ 2.5 months average. Thats 375 transactions per month or $9375. At 15% processing fee thats $1406.25 to the biller not counting chargeback/credit fees, reserves, etc. Our fee assuming this is one site would be $150 per month even at double the # of sales (which would be double the billing cost however).

Our rates are not high, they are a cost of doing business if you wish to compete, give your affiliates quality tools, and make your program stand out from the crowd.

im not putting your program down, you have some good stuff

i just think its a lot better idea for a program to buy your product with the 1 time fee

Alky · 07-23-2005, 09:15 AM

but why should sales volume have anything to do with what you charge? do you offer a different product to programs who push more sales?

Shooting_Manic · 07-23-2005, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Monolith was looking good for a while, but I haven't heard anything of it lately.

http://speira.com/

Dead and gone. Ran out on all his clients from what i have heard.

Manowar · 07-23-2005, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

Dead and gone. Ran out on all his clients from what i have heard.

dayum

4Pics · 07-23-2005, 10:16 AM

I think it's ccbill or nats for now..

SGS · 07-23-2005, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

Dead and gone. Ran out on all his clients from what i have heard.

Enough to send shivers down your spine just thinking about it.

aico · 07-23-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Alky

but why should sales volume have anything to do with what you charge? do you offer a different product to programs who push more sales?

That's the exact question that has kept me from using them also... I am guessing that they assume the more sites you have, the more $$$ you make so the more they can charge you with less impact to your wallet... but I could be wrong, usually am.

sandman! · 07-23-2005, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alky

but why should sales volume have anything to do with what you charge? do you offer a different product to programs who push more sales?

if the only offered 1 price it would be much higher.

just like when you buy database software and have to have a seperate lic for each cpu in your server.

newbreed · 07-23-2005, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

Our lease rate varies from $150 to $650 per month depending on # of sites and sales volume. Really not an arm and a leg in my opinion. Let's look at billing for instance.

Say you do 5 sales per day with 2.5 months average retention at $24.95/mo.

Thats 150 sales per month and 225 rebills per month @ 2.5 months average. Thats 375 transactions per month or $9375. At 15% processing fee thats $1406.25 to the biller not counting chargeback/credit fees, reserves, etc. Our fee assuming this is one site would be $150 per month even at double the # of sales (which would be double the billing cost however).

Our rates are not high, they are a cost of doing business if you wish to compete, give your affiliates quality tools, and make your program stand out from the crowd.

Did you raise the member limit for the $150.00/month Lite version? Your example would exceed the number of allowed members for the $150.00/month plan.

Also, take into account (those of you looking at numbers) your other expenses like affiliate payouts (this is after all an affiliate management program) and hosting, etc.

Yanks_Todd · 07-23-2005, 12:37 PM

Mansion's MPA3 is a nice option. I think it's priced the same as NATS and both are resonably priced in my opinion.

Nathan · 07-24-2005, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alky

but why should sales volume have anything to do with what you charge? do you offer a different product to programs who push more sales?

NATS costs $650 a month. But we want to help the smaller programs out from the get go, so we deceided to release NATS versions for smaller programs that would not cost them so much to start up. Those versions are EXACTLY The same, they just cost less per month. They automatically switch to the higher up version once max sales or max sites is too high without downtime of your program or any kind of other update/upgrade requirement.

Hope this clears it up.

Nathan · 07-24-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed

Did you raise the member limit for the $150.00/month Lite version? Your example would exceed the number of allowed members for the $150.00/month plan.

Also, take into account (those of you looking at numbers) your other expenses like affiliate payouts (this is after all an affiliate management program) and hosting, etc.

NATSlite's limit is 300 sales a month. Thats NEW SALES, not active members.

So his example was correct.

Fabian

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Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	NATS alternatives........? I need a similar prog to start me off - but I dont want to tye to them at the moment I will go to NATS eventually, but I need something more realistic to start of. All sugestions welcome Thanks

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Yanks_Todd Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Valencia Posts: 2,490	Mansion's MPA3 is a nice option. I think it's priced the same as NATS and both are resonably priced in my opinion. __________________ Todd Spaits - Co-founder -YanksCash Premium ad-packages available - Skype for details - tmspaits

07-23-2005, 08:27 AM	#2
ry0t So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 4,160	There's nothing similar to NATS for low cost. You just will not find it.

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Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	i think NATS charges an arm and a leg for their monthly stuff.... but on the same token you can buy the program outright so its a bad argument

07-23-2005, 09:15 AM	#10
Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	but why should sales volume have anything to do with what you charge? do you offer a different product to programs who push more sales?

07-23-2005, 10:16 AM	#13
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	I think it's ccbill or nats for now..